savage 110 build the way Rugers GSR should be.

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I want a GSR type rifle and I simply don't like the way Ruger did it. Mossberg did it too and it also has the short action fallacy (just not for me) so I'm kinda stuck. I want a detachable box rifle in a long action gun built very similar to the GSR with high quality parts...and my rem 700 is not going to get touched. I like it how it is.

So my plan got kicked into low gear today. I struck a deal on a used 110c in 30-06 with a nice wooden stock. The gun has been used, not abused. My plan is to source and install a higher capacity detachable box. I have seen a few threads out and about which use Remington mags or BAR mags to achieve the task. Once a floor plate and mag setup is completed I will source a nicer stock, most likely from Boyds. I will stay with wood. I will also be installing an aftermarket barrel (probably Shilen but I'm not too picky on manufacturer so long as it's a decent tube). A higher end trigger is a must and i sm going to be reading up on a few but im looking at timney pretty hard already. Last but not least will be a bolt and optic setup. Bolt will depend on what chamber I choose. Optic will probably be Vortec.

For you long range guys, am I missing anything short of bedding? Any pointers you can throw my way would be appreciated.

Is there any chambering to avoid...as in belted magnums due to brass prices or availability? I will handload every shell that ever goes in this once it's built so ammo cost isn't a big deal aside from brass. I'm kinda leaning towards .257 Weatherby magnum but again, that's expensive brass. I may stick to something more generic here simply to avoid crazy money for dies as well as brass.

So basically the shopping list is...
Donor rifle...sourced today.
Mag setup
Stock
Trigger
Barrel
Flash suppressor? I really like the Barrett look.
Scope base
Scope

Geez, my taste in long guns is like my wife's taste in jewelry.
 
This is baffling - you say you want it to be like the RGS, then buy a long action probably 7-8lb gun and are trying to figure out what magnum (presumably necessitating a long barrel) you want to chamber it in. You say your likely optic comes from a company (I presume you meant Vortex...) that doesn't even offer a scout scope.

What part, exactly, of the GSR appealed to you? That it had a bolt handle?
 
My first question is, what accuracy do you want to have at what range? That's for all fired shots, not just what the smallest few-shot test group is.

Second question; how many rounds do you want the barrel to last to deliver your accuracy objectives?

I ask because your objectives in rifle design are somewhat counterproductive to what's delivered best accuracy and long barrel life. Here's why.

The .257 Wby Mag is a way overbore capacity cartridge; moreso than the .264 Win Mag. (Overbore is when the powder charge weight in grains has a number bigger than the bore's cross sectional area in square millimeters.) My .264 Win Mag lasted 640 rounds for long range matches. Folks using the 7mm Rem Mag in such events producing the best scores got 700 to 800 rounds. I doubt a Wby .257 will get over 600 rounds. But that depends on the accuracy objective.

Detachable box magazine rifles are notorious for accuracy issues. Each magazine typically needs a different zero on the sights. There can be a 1 to 2 MOA difference across several of them. Which is why folks today using the best bolt action or semiauto tube guns in competition still test their magazines to get a few that all have the same sight settings to zero a given load. It's all about how they fit the receiver magazine port repeatably across all of them and don't change from shot to shot. All the rifle's parts must fit exactly the same way from shot to shot else accuracy suffers.

Belted cases are more finicky about reloading for best accuracy. New belted cases typically shoot more accurate than those reloaded the traditional way. Rimless ones are much easier to reload accurately.

That said, your objectives could easily be met with your equipment choices depending on what those objectives' specs are.
 
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Not trolling. As for the scout scope, if I go medium taper on the barrel then forward mounted scope on a 20 or 22 inch barrel then it will get nose heavy in a hurry. I will mount the scope in traditional location. So basically I want a GSR that isn't so small. I like every other feature of that rifle except for being short action and short barrel.
 
So you want a standard bolt action with a detachable magazine and a flash hider...not a GSR at all. Thats where you confused people. So just get the rifle you want, buy an AICS style mag conversion, chop off an arm and sell it to buy mags, then thread the barrel and throw on your chosen muzzle device.
 
I recently put PTG bottom metal on a Savage 10 and really like it. They make a version for long action as well. Nobody makes a polymer long action AICS mag, so you will be stuck paying ~$60-70 per mag.

Really, what you're ending up describing isn't a GSR though, it's a Ruger Precision rifle in a long action chambering.
 
Perhaps you folks are correct in saying it isn't a GSR, but that is the rifle I am basing my plans around. Looking seriously at the possibility of the BAR mags and am seriously concerned about how a belted round will feed in the rifle. I may be forced to stay very near the 30-06 profile which suits me. I would like a little more oomph but 30-06 will certainly suit my needs, and brass is reasonable enough as well. I may opt for an '06 based round rather that the '06 but it will be close.
 
My first thought reading this was I think the GSR is exactly the way it should be. I traded mine but only because I got a steal, I thought the rifle was awesome just the way it was. But I get what you are saying now, you want a similar looking rifle.
 
.35 Whelen if you want a little more umph in a .30-06 package--even get factory ammo and barrels for it.
 
WestKentucky said:
Looking seriously at the possibility of the BAR mags and am seriously concerned about how a belted round will feed in the rifle.
Click to expand...

Accuracy International makes a long action mag for 300 Win Mag, and several companies make bottom metal metal for Savage rifles that accept AI mags.
 
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