Questions for Ruger GSR owners

[fragout]

Hello all.

I have a few questions for Ruger GSR owners who are, or have used the following item for their rifle...

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/43...ount-rail-ruger-gunsight-scout-aluminum-matte

1. The peep sight: Is it adjustable? Can you give me the dimensions of the rear sight aperture? Does it fold down or simply fixed in place? How does it perform for you in comparison with the OEM rear sight assembly? Does it work well with the OEM front sight?

2. The rail itself: What is the total length of useable space for optics? Once installed, is it rock solid or does it shift/wobble at all. How does the rail line up when installed on the rifle? Is it canted at all, or where it is supposed to be?
Other comments regarding this?

3. I would also be interested in hearing what type/hiegth rings you are using, and the type of optic.

4. If you are using a "mini dot" sight..... will it sit low enough to allow for co-witness.

5. Any folks out there use their GSR for hunting? If so..... what kind of critters do you hunt, and what load of 308 do you use for hunting?

6. Do any of you run a can on your GSR? If so......what kind of can, and have you tried any subsonic 308 ammo through your GSR?

Note: I have a friend that is left handed and confined to a wheelchair. He was looking at the Savage Hog hunter chambered for 308, but prefers left handed bolt action rifles. Being a southpaw myself, I can relate. Since GSR's have a lefty version vs the right handed only Hog hunter..... the GSR sports all the features he is looking for in a lefty bolt action rifle.

Thanks.

 

[back40]

i have the xs full rail on my GSR. i really like the versatility it adds. i've been shooting the rifle mainly with the irons lately, but add a 1-4x scope in QR leupold rings for deer season.

1) the rear aperture is adjustable for windage and elevation by screwing up and down, and a set screw on either side. i haven't had any issues with it and it works fine with the factory front sight. inside diameter is approx 1/8th". i noticed when i bought my GSR that there were different diameter factory rear sights on various guns. not a huge difference, but certainly noticeable.

2) total available space is about 10.5". it's rock solid and centered as it should be. i've never heard of any issues with the mounting.

3) i use a 1-4 power scope with 30mm tube, and medium (.850) leupold QR rings. this allows the minimal clearance needed between the aperture and the main tube.

4) no. i've mounted a micro RDS with no additional riser and you cannot co-witness. i don't believe any sight would co-witness.

5) i use mine for whitetail with anything from 150gr to 180 gr loads. mine seems to like the heavier loads a little better, probably due to twist rate. even with 150gr fmj bulk ammo it'll hold under 2 moa at 100yds with the 1-4x mounted.

6) no. cans aren't legal here.

hope this helps.

 

[fragout]

Back40.

Thanks for the details, exactly what I'm lookin for. Very helpful.

Especially how the rifle shoots 150gr FMJ, a this is a load that we already have quite a bit of for use through other rifles chambered for it.

Keep it coming folks.

 

[fragout]

Anybody else here own a GSR?

 

[musicman10_1]

I have one. I really like it. I mainly shoot 168 gr match ammo though I have shot some 150 gr Winchester ammo. It is easy to maneuver, light, reliable, looks great, and on and on.

I have a Burris 2x handgun scope on it with QD Warne scope rings. It works fine. One of these days I might get a dedicated scout scope for it but my set-up works well for me.

I use a Galco Safari Ching sling and also have a paracord sling for it that i made. I have the 10 and 5 round Ruger polymer mags for it too.

 

[R.W.Dale]

I have one but mine just wears a trijicon reflex on the stock rail. As mentioned earlier any kind of cowitness simply isn't possible given the sight plane is right along the top of the rail.

I have not used the factory sights yet.

Accuracy @100 with 175g match bullets is quite satisfactory.

 

[chicharrones]

Anybody else here own a GSR?

Yep, but mine isn't set up the way you are asking so I can't give any useful feedback other than 180 grain SP ammo has proven a touch more accurate than 147-150 grain FMJ.

 

[fragout]

Nice lookin rifles everyone. Thanks for sharing the pics here.

 

[fragout]

A few more questions......

What is the LOP come out to with all spacers removed?

Has anyone chrono'ed any loads thru their GSR? Details if you have please.

Same question as above, but for folks using the 18in bbl version?

 

[chicharrones]

A few more questions......

What is the LOP come out to with all spacers removed?

Has anyone chrono'ed any loads thru their GSR? Details if you have please.

Same question as above, but for folks using the 18in bbl version?

LOP on mine w/ no spacers is about 12-5/8". It works great with open sights. It's a bit short for using my pistol scope in a scout mount position as the eye relief doesn't work with the spacers removed. I bet a real scout scope with 9" or less eye relief would work fine with the spacers removed for me.

I only fired my 16.5" GSR through a friend's chronometer on one range trip. The ammo was 147/150 grain FMJ (NATO and .308) and 180 grain soft points. The 147/150 averaged in the mid to upper 2600 fps range, while the 180 grain ran in the mid 2500 fps range.

One thing to remember is the 16.5" GSR barrel actually measures about 17-3/8" from the closed bolt face to muzzle.

 

[Captains1911]

YHM Phantom Ti. I have not tried sub sonic.

 

[fragout]

"One thing to remember is the 16.5" GSR barrel actually measures about 17-3/8" from the closed bolt face to muzzle."

I didn't know that. Thanks for the tip

 

[fragout]

Captains1911:

Can you give more details about your GSR?
Scope, rings, overall weight with the can?

 

[Captains1911]

Captains1911:

Can you give more details about your GSR?
Scope, rings, overall weight with the can?

The scope is a Leupold VX-1, 3-9x50, factory Ruger scope rings that came with the rifle. Not sure of overall weight, but the can is titanium and weighs 15 ozs. The mount adds some weight too.

 

[FSJeeper]

The GSR stock is spot on for peep sight use. Throw it up and it lines up perfectly, naturally, and fast.

Mounting a Scout scope is nothing I am interested in, especially with the large loss of field of view.

For a scope with a front bell, the stock becomes less handy because you have to mount the scope higher and I loose some cheek weld in order to sight properly. This will be different for different folks and may not be an issue. For me it is.

I currently have a Swaro 1.5 x 6 42mm on it now with the XS rail. Love the scope but you do no get the quick handling like you do with the peeps or a very low mounted low power straight tube scope. It's too big for the rifle.

For me, I am looking for a 1 x 4 or some where around there with an ocular that will clear the XS peep sight but sit as low as possible on the rail. With that, I think it will be perfect.

 

[fragout]

Interesting idea FSJeeper. I was thinking along the same lines, and would like to use the XS rail sight IOT retain a set of iron sights along with a lightweight, compact optic such as a 1-4x20.
In addition, the rear sight aperture (XS) appears to sit rather low, and should allow an optic such as the above to sit low to the bore as well.

http://www.xssights.com/index.php?nID=scopemounts&cID=Scope Mounts&pID=scopemounts

I would most likely remove the front rail, as I am not all that fond of fwd mounted optics for a rifle such as the GSR.

The GSR has a lot of things I'm lookin for in a do all general purpose bolt action rifle. (My buddy has a good argument in that I should buy one as well.)

Iron sights with rear peep aperture
Threaded muzzle
Adjustable LOP
Left handed bolt option
Controlled round feed
Detatchable box magazine
Chambered in 308 Win

It meets my OAL and weight requirements, and even sports sling swivel studs.

This rifle will be a host for a can, & the XS rail has plenty of room for certain NVS optics I use now.

I do wish that Ruger would make a stainless steel version with a 16in bbl in a left hand bolt, and a synthetic stock would also be interesting to me.

I have been comparing it to the Savage hog hunter chambered in 308Win, as the price for them is much lower than a Ruger gunsight rifle.

What the Savage lacks in comparison ( No lefty bolt, detatchable box mag, controlled round feed, a tad long in OAL, non adjustable lop, and the style of iron sight I want) sort of knocks it out of the running.

I also looked into building what I want, but the costs involved exceeded what a bolt action GPR is worth too me.
(Other than ammunition/reloading, my priority for gun funds goes toward the M14 types here.)

 

[back40]

i use a 1-4x on my scout with the xs rail. with the right ring height choice you retain the rear aperture sight.

 

[fragout]

back40.

What type of 1x4 scope are you using, and what type of rings?

What clearance do you have between the scope and the rear sight?

Pics of your set up would be great.

I found a few pics of the GSR/XS rail with optics mounted, but the optic was quite a bit bigger in size than what I'm lookin for.

 

[back40]

https://www.primaryarms.com/Primary-Arms-1-4X-24-Illuminated-Scope-PA14X-p/pa14x.htm

i bought this just to see if i wanted to use a 1-4x on my ar or the micro RDS i have. it ended up on my scout rifle for deer season last year mounted in medium leupold QR rings. clearance between the aperture and the scope is minimal but sufficient. i don't have any pics, and the scope isn't mounted right now as i've been shooting it with irons only for a while. i'll mount the scope up and get a pic when i get a chance.

 

[UKWildcatFan]

Here's the scope I went with. Leupold scout scope.

http://www.leupold.com/hunting-shooting/scopes/fixed-power-riflescopes/fx-ii-scout-ier-2-5x28mm/

 

[Flyboy73]

I have a GSR on layaway and plan on putting the Leupold scout scope on it. I handled one with the scout scope on it and really liked it.

Brion

 

[fragout]

i'm also lookin into Cerakote for a more weather resistant coating to protect the metal, so stainless steel is not that big of a deal to me.

In the end, the rifle, optics, and can wont be matte black.

Anyone use this on one of their rifles?

Anyone use a "Melonite" treatment?

One follow up question regarding the Ruger GSR magazines.......

How do the metal mags compare with the plastic mags in terms of reliable feeding?

Are they both as reliable, or is one more reliable than the other?

I have also found online that a lot of folks who own Ruger GSR's have found that the bolt is not as smooth as it could be, but gets better over time via use. Anyone here experience this?

BTW....... Plans for this rifle include more than simply "carried a lot and shot very few times". If I don't like shooting a specific rifle, then it goes bye bye.

As it sits now, a close competitor to this idea = An M14 build, using an LRB M25 receiver, 16in Criterion chrome lined bbl, and an SEI Socom front end sitting inside a modified GI synthetic stock.
Then again, a build like this consists of a lighter wallet in the end, compared to the GSR.

 

[fragout]

Has anyone here tried out McMillan's synthetic stock for your own Ruger GSR?

 

[Willie Sutton]

"Mounting a Scout scope is nothing I am interested in, especially with the large loss of field of view."


Uhhh.... :banghead:

They are shot with both eyes open... you can hit airborne clay birds if you do your job. Large loss of field of view? Good grief. Colonel Jeff would roll in his grave.


Willie

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[Sam1911]

Willie, perhaps he was referring to using high magnification scopes out in the "scout" position?

I mean, that's really, really, really, really not the point, but yeah, you get a tiny little field of view if you do that.