Heaviest Trigger Pull You've Ever Encountered?

GarySTL said:

H&K VP-70 in 9mm. Never measured the pull weight, but it was terrible. Traded the gun 2 months after I got it.

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^This. A close second is the High Standard Double Derringer.

Too bad you didn't keep it. It's a good gun to keep your trigger finger in shape for DA revolver shooting. And once you get the technique down it's suprisingly accurate, to boot.

VA27 said:

^This. A close second is the High Standard Double Derringer.

Too bad you didn't keep it. It's a good gun to keep your trigger finger in shape for DA revolver shooting. And once you get the technique down it's suprisingly accurate, to boot.

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Looking back today, it seems to me that the VP70 kind of resembles a HiPoint.

HK VP-70Z for me. Felt like 20-25#.

Worst I ever had isn't this one



Or this one



It was, surprisingly this Vector Uzi. Truly terrible, about 25lbs out of the box. I sent it to a trigger specialist and he brought it down to about 10lbs and smoothed it out. As I shot it more, it smoothed even more. Really a terrible, terrible trigger, even for a milsurp type gun.

Polish P-64, but my former "W. Germany" (IA) Walther PPK/S had a similar DA pull.

Haven't tried a Nagant or P64 so my worst is a three way tie between an AMT backup 45, a Davis Derringer and a buddies COP

Snowdog posted my two. I have a Nagant or two, and one is better than the other.. I don't have a p64, but handled them. Having a Makarov kept me away from that..

I've shot some of those mentioned and agree. Some like the Barreta Storm Carbine have a crunch factor thrown in.

Worst I have owned? The SW BodyGuard 380ACP. For such a small thing to involve a 20 Ton jack to move the trigger was quite astounding. I mean I needed both fingers on the boogerhook switch. The thing pretty much fell apart in my hands after a box or three of ammo, so I actually got my money back.

I've got a friend with a Cobra Derringer. Good God. Didn't measure it, but it's like they compensated for the lack of a trigger guard by making it impossible to pull the trigger. I suggested she take it to a gunsmith and make sure it was really supposed to be that heavy.

norinco 1911a1.

I have a little Jennings J-22 that has a horrible trigger. Not only is the pull heavy, but there is hardly any break in it. Its like pulling on a sponge soaked in rubber cement! My Henry AR-7 Survival .22 has a fairly heavy trigger too, but I wonder if that isn't on purpose as it is made for survival situations.

A Ruger Redhawk .44 mag bought new in 2008. 18lb Double action, 9 lbs Single action. I installed a wolf spring kit, after some polishing, and it would not set off primers DA. I called ruger and they said it needed the full power springs to be reliable. I sold it as it was unshootable.

GarySTL said:

Looking back today, it seems to me that the VP70 kind of resembles a HiPoint.

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According to some sources that's exactly what it was meant to be. An inexpensive to manufacture select-fire 'peoples' machine pistol for use when the Russian hordes poured into the west.

When they started making the semiauto only version and sending it to the states it was a modern miracle. Poly frame and a (for the time) huge mag capacity.

In law enforcement back then the vast majority of us carried a revolver. Six rounds in the gun and twelve on the belt. The VP had that eighteen rounds in one magazine! Who knows what it could have done to the market had the trigger been as good as the typical Colt or Smith.

As it was I only remember one plain clothes investigator who carried one. He qualified with it so they let him carry it.

I'm not sure of the dates, but was the VP70 before HiPoint? I'm thinking it was. Maybe that's where they got their inspiration.

Worst trigger pull I've experienced was on a CZ-52. After the heavy pull it then trigger slaps the crap out of your finger as a reward.

Nagant in DA. I have fired at least 100 different kinds of firearms over the decades and nothing else came close.

My absolute worst has to be the H&R 929 Sidekick snubbie .22 revolver. It took a lot of work (including a double hammer spring) to make it fire reliably with all ammo. It's absolutely miserable in DA with that tiny grip. It hasn't misfired in hundreds of rounds since I added a 2nd spring.

Next on my list is probably a heavily sprung CZ-52. I went with a heavy mainspring to help with hard primers. It rarely gets used but even with a really stiff SA trigger it won't reliably ignite surplus ammo and it slaps pretty bad when it does. Very difficult to maintain accuracy with such a hard trigger break.

After that may be my Russian commercial Mak. It feels like an unnecessarily heavy DA with lot of stacking and a hard break, followed by a very indistinct SA.

I briefly owned a Walther PPS that had an unbelievably bad trigger. The worst I've ever felt in a striker fired gun. It was so bad that no one online or at the factory seemed to believe me when I described how bad it was. The gun had other issues and the factory wanted to bill me for the repairs to a gun that never should have left the factory. No thanks.

Polish P-64 in double action. It takes two fingers to break the trigger with any degree of accuracy.

I bought a new Colt 1911 around '04 or '05 and it was my first and only Colt. Trigger pull was off the RCBS trigger pull gauge and I mean you couldn't hit anything with it. Finally put a new ignition kit in it and a few other things and now it shoots like it should.

Ignition Override said:

Polish P-64, but my former "W. Germany" (IA) Walther PPK/S had a similar DA pull.

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Exactly my experience. Though the PPK/S I had was very heavy in DA, I still like it.

My Mauser HS/c

My worst one is my CZ70. My heaviest trigger gauge I had was 10# and it did not even budge at the full 10#. I estimated the pull to be 16#-20#. The SA trigger was actually quite pleasant at a crisp 7#-8#.

There was a Taurus in .327 at Gander. It took two fingers to pull the trigger. They said they would cover 50 percent of a trigger job AFTER purchase. Ridiculous.

I shot my brother in law's derringer several weeks ago. Made in Texas it was and it was made very nicely. The trigger however took all the strength I could put in the trigger finger to fire it and in using all the strenth I pulled each shot way off target. I forget the name of the thing but I think it was not meant to be fired.

Polish P-64 double action. I have Kung fu action grip and can barely get it to break.