The RUGER OLD ARMY Club

PapaG said:

Dicky, How did you get by for $2400 each.....my operation cost 95K, but I got two rods to go with the eight lags.
Hope yours is working better than mine.

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Oh, believe me, that was only for each screw. I have rods too. I am way beyond 200K now after two surgeries in 7 months.

A year after my surgery I developed an infection in two vertebrae and one disc. Picc line, antibiotics, anaphalactic shock from the antibiotics, another month or so (ICU, kidneys quit, quit breathing, wife told to "make arrangements"). That was 2012. Now I'm some better....also past 200K, not trying to top you. Balance is poor, leg muscles atrophied, but I had one of my best years on the trap field with a 96+% average in two leagues.
Get well and stay that way. Stan

Hey Guy, I'm new to the group and am actively seeking a ROA. My question pertains to your .50. Might you have time to tell me how it shoots, recoil, accuracy and have you hunted with it?

Well if your inquiring about my .50. its very accurate, Hunting season is over here in Pa. The recoil is between IMHO a 44 spl and 44 mag, maybe more toward the Magnum side with 50 gr. of 777. but as stated is more accurate with the conical rounds at 45 gr. of 777. The action job is very nice, very crisp trigger pull, and the cylinder makes a more distinct "click" when rotating and hammer is more crisp. hammer is .005 closer to nipples (no dry firing) no misfiring yet. Pretty impressive cap and ball package. This summer It will be taken out for some Hunting on some coyotes and ground hogs and maybe carry it while fly fishing for pesky bears.

SB,

It has been 25 degrees below freezing here, so my Old Army had to wait to get fired to try the chamfering. It was just below freezing this morning so I headed to the range.

I spent the $6 for a 5 flute 82 degree countersink tool from the local industrial supply place and chucked it up in my cordless drill. I lightly touched the sharp corner of each cylinder, then switched to a fine cone-shaped grinding stone and touched each corner again.

I now just shave a hair-thin lead ring of lead from just 2 of the 6 holes. The remainder just swage the lead round ball into the chamber on top of the powder and WonderWad. The effort to ram the balls is reduced, but not by much.

I got no recoil induced movement from 4 cylinders full of shooting!

I will go back and touch each of the holes with the stone to finish off this easy and helpful modification.

Thank you very much for the heads-up on that.

Best regards,


stewbud

Tim,
No dry fire? Why?

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Because Dave moves the hammer .005 closer to the nipples. To ensure firing of the caps. The factory ruger makes a (.005) gap. Between hammer and nipple so dry firing before the conversion would be ok. These were Dave's instructions

I was gonna say, I thought ROAs were dry fireable. And here I make open tops dry fire!! Lol

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I 'd probably say the no gap would be for ensuring positive ignition every time using any cap , some as we know some are better than others. I may be wrong on this. I use Remington or CCI magnums. I haven't had any misfires yet , but I have also changed nipples since I had the gun converted .

First load for my converted ROA was 6.5 Unique and a button nosed swc. 25 yard groups ran around 3.5" but I was just using a two hand Weaver hold and it was cold and windy. Used to get almost a ragged hole in the old days with a .457 rb, 20 fffg and cornmeal filler off bags.
Looks like it will do just fine. I'm happy with it. (And it is sitting in the case three days later, not foreboding, rusting or deteriorating in any way.)

New to the ROA, and sorry, no pic.

Well I've been reading this forum for a long time, and firing Colt open tops.
I finally got a Ruger Stainless 7-1/2" and tried it with some Kado bullets for the first trip out to the range.
I suppose they shot slightly high due to the Kado slugs being heavy and the thrust plain being above the center of mass. Yet I was pleased.
Having a Ruger Super Backhawk (44 Mag), I was not surprised to find the ROA similar, but a bit milder.
I love this gun, it's got a certain feel that indicates a Century of reliable use. Long after I'm gone. I think it would need some instructions for care & feeding, but any person that inherits this piece should be able to use it and keep it going for many years.
I love 1851 & 1860 Colt replicas, they fill a roll for light weight and easy handling guns that might be carried to finish a deer if the 54 caliber smoke pole that brought them down may have missed a vital spot, but they are a bit fragile. The ROA is in a class of it's own. It has replaced my 2nd Model Dragoon as the PowerHouse BP revolver.
Thanks for having a special ROA forum for camaraderie & to share info.

My Ruger (Clements conv)does shoot slightly higher with 250 gr conicals (accurate mold) verses round balls. As it did before the conversion

I had to replace the front sight on both of my stainless ones with a higher blade. I haven't done it with my blue one because I haven't figured out how.
I called Ruger but the rep. was unable to help.

Old Armies

In the process of building one more from parts.
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Beauties, absolute beauties!

ROA .45 LC Cylinder

I know the after market cylinders in .45 LC for ROA are not designed for modest much less hot loade, is it possible to get a 5 shot cylinder in .45 LC that would delivery less than hot loads but greater than cowboy loads, and by whom?

Well, Kirst has a six shot cyl. that's good for 1000fps and lower. That pretty much encompasses all the standard off the shelf loads (including SD loads), leave any + or +P loads alone . The ammo is expensive but that's totally your business but if you reload, you can load to 1000 fps within spec. and have all the fun you wanna!!

I have gated conversions in my Dragoons and a '60 Army that do very well with warm (900-950 fps) loads.

(Let's see how long it takes for the "pressure posse" to show up! Stay within SAAMI specs. and you'll be fine.)

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News to me? I always thought 900-950 loads at the bottom of .45 Colt loads.
Steve

Well SB ,
Don't know what manual you use but mine doesn't list a load for 1000 fps or more for any 250/255 gr bullet and only one for a 230 gr bullet @ 1003 fps. It does list many loads @ 1000 + fps in 200 gr or less so . . . . . . . huh?

I don't know of any standard off the shelf cartridges that are even rated at 1000 fps or more (250 gr.).

Maybe you can tell us what you've been shooting? Most "cowboy " loads are in the 800 + -/fps range (I believe).

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Nope just what ever my S&W 25-5 will tolerate and they run about 850fps. Check John Linebaugh's website there are different load levels for the .45 Colt revolvers from lean to mean. By the way, the .454 Casull is basically the .45 Colt on steroids.
Steve

OK,
We're talking about conversion cyls. chambered for .45 Colt. Tier 1 loading (14,000 CUP max) is safe for all arms in good working order.

The 454 Casull has a longer case than the 45 Colt case so, it's really not. It's a cartridge all its own. A 454 Casull won't chamber in a cyl. chambered for 45 Colt.

As far as John Linebaugh (not Limbaugh) goes, he states very clearly that his rounds are for New Model Ruger Bisley/Blackhawk revolvers. I don't think think anyone here would consider loading his rounds in a conversion cylinder. Most seem scared to death to shoot cowboy stuff in them !

You forgot the 460 S&W Mag. It uses the same dia. bullets as the other 45s but, you can't chamber it in a conversion cyl either so.

How do you know " what ever your S&W 25-5 will tolerate " will tolerate? Do you shoot Linebaugh loads in it?

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OK, have it your way and a good day to boot.
Steve

4v50 Gary said:

moparclan - what's the story behind those cavalry marked ROAs?

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Looks like a pair of Talo Ruger Horse Pistols

http://www.taloinc.com/ruger-firearms/ruger-horse-pistol

Talo limited edition, these are #48 and #49 of 110.
I think made in 1999

Ruger Horse Pistol
Duty-Honor-Country
BP7 Old Army .45 cal 7 inch Part # 1401 Cylinder inscribed with Crossed Calvary Swords and “Duty Honor Country U.S. on Back strap and grips. Only 110 produced (sold out)