Springfield 1855 Carbine "Dragoon"

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Has anyone heard of this carbine?

I have the opportunity to purchase an authentic one with its stock. I think they may be very collectible. But this one is only in fair condition, technically in NRA "Good" condition, with no cleaning or restoration work done to it. There are some cracks on the stock and a bit of rust on the barrel. But the firing mechanism works fine. Perhaps wothwhile to mend the cracks and clean off the rust?

Bob
 
Depends on the price. I am always in the market for real pieces of history but there are a lot of rascals out there who are selling "aged" defarbed fakes but anything that is 150 years old has some value. The real determination factor is "what is it worth to YOU?" If you can confirm through serial numbers or other factors of authenticity that it is indeed as advertised and the price is acceptable to you then buy it. What does it matter what a bunch of internet wannabes think?
 
Supposedly only about 4000 were made. You'll want to examine it carefully to ensure it is actually original, as there are reproductions out there. As far as cleaning it up, I wouldn't, but I am basing that on opinion based on other original firearms rather than giving you a great reason. I am sure there are others here who could be more definitive on it than I.

There are some books out there that will give you a better idea of what an original looks like. I would do a thoroughly researched book over the internet for validating authenticity.
 
I'm too tough on iron to have too many historical pieces. I feel bad about my not brand new pre cross bolt safety Marlin but it's not rare even a little. ;)

I would be all over a replica of that though. I always liked the idea of the Dragoon with a shoulder stock. Especially the ones you see pictures of with sights on the barrel. That would be right up my alley. maybe time to beg the namufacturers?
 
Bean counters are not just a modern phenomenon...

Why issue a trooper both a pistol AND a carbine when we can issue him ONE pistol-carbine and save all that money???
 
I like it. I think I would prefer a reproduction piece though so I could use and abuse it as was intended. Time to.go dig around on TOTW and see what I can find.
 
I played with one of these ( a repro), and I know why they were found to be "not completely satisfactory." They're ungainly and inaccurate. The "fun" factor is OK if someone else is loading it for you.
 
I have one with a stock, but it is getting exceedingly difficult to get the tape role caps for the pistol. I only have two tins containing maybe five roles of caps so I am now using musket caps until I can locate another supply.
 
You'll ruin any collector value if you "mend the cracks and clean off the rust". If you want one to play with, repros were made, buy one of them.
 
I am thinkng of leaving it alone if I purchase it. So far all the ones I have seen have strong signs that they have been refinished. Some sellers admit to this, and others do not. Just FWIW the rating of NRA "Good" condition does permit some repair. But this would drive off the purists, which would probably include me. Still, the finish is a bit rough. So I have to determine purchase price accordingly.

Bob
 
I have the Antonio Zoli repro of the carbine. Sights are the rreason they are not that accurate. I worked on mine a bit and now it shoots much better. I am down to a 5 inch group at 25 yds. Ungainly is a perfect adjective for the weapon.
 
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