Taurus PT 1911 9mm Stainless

Call Taurus.

They'll fix it

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Call Taurus.

They'll fix it

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Maybe. After a while.

Taurus doesn't seem so good at fixing things that can't be defined by an obviously broken bit.

I have had nothing but trouble with jams and tumbling bullets.

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Can you be more specific? Feed jams, extraction or ejection issues?

Sorry for your trouble. I have had issues with one of my guns failing to feed properly. It was an FN. The first time it was a magazine spring issue, after that, I couldn't tell you the problem.

I got rid of it. If it were me, I would send it to Taurus to fix, and then trade it away as soon as it's home. If you even get $600 back out of it, there are a number of other brands you could explore. After witnessing every Taurus gun my friends have ever purchased turn out to be total junk, and hearing of a forth from my tattoo guy, I made the decision never to spend my money on a Taurus.

However, there are lots of very happy Taurus owners out there, and on THR, so accept that my experience is a very limited sample, and doesn't necessarily reflect the norm.

I have experience with two blued PT1911s, none with the stainless version. The two that I'm familiar will run anything you load in them from 185 gr. LSWC to 230 gr. LMJ. Reloads and all, just load 'em and shoot 'em.

I would return it to Taurus. I have no idea how their customer service is as I have never needed it and I own several of their handguns.

Wow - Who talked you into buying a $500 gun for $900 ? New or used ?

My experiences with the Taurus 1911 have been fovorable. We used one as a range gun (rental) and it ran for years without a problem and was very accurate as well.
Our gunsmith bought one in 9mm and has had no issues, and the store manager has not had one problem with his in .45 acp.

Send it back to Taurus with a detailed explaination of what you have for problems. Take the time to go onto their website and pull up the return form, and fill it out. It will speed up the process of repair.

Rixtar62 said:

My very first and only hand gun. I paid over $ 900 for it brand new. I have had nothing but trouble with jams and tumbling bullets. Anyone else have this problem or have I purchased a lemon ?

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$900 for a Taurus 1911??!!!

Sorry to hear that you are having troubles. My advice would be to get some Wilson Combat mags. Most 1911 issues from what I understand stem from junk mags.

Get the Wilson Combat 47D mags. I own 3 1911s and these mags work in all of them with no problems.

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Get the Wilson Combat 47D mags.

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He would have a heck of a time trying to get those .45acp magazines to work in a 9mm. His best best from the Wilson lineup are the 500-9. They fixed my 9mm 1911 woes right up.

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He would have a heck of a time trying to get those .45acp magazines to work in a 9mm. His best best from the Wilson lineup are the 500-9. They fixed my 9mm 1911 woes right up.

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I screwed up, I failed to read properly.

The OP should get Wilson Combat 1911 9mm mags you suggested.

Rixtar82

I have found Colt 1911 9mm. magazines to be well made and very reliable. I use them when I convert my .38 Super Commander to 9mm.

I have that exact taurus 9mm. It has been flawless.
Call taurus they will pay shipping.

Like posted above, I would try some quality magazines and if that doesn't work, send it in.

Most problems with 1911s cam be solved with quality mags. 1911s chambered for 9mm can especially finicky. As others have said, I'd try getting Chip McCormack or Wilson Combat mags. I'd that doesn't work, you might have to send it back.

And yeah, you paid way too much for it.

Also suggest different mags first and if that does not help you may have to send it back.

Not every 1911 comes with a tuned extractor. Make sure you have good tension on an empty case and enough tension to hold a round that falls out when shaken.

Also while the slide is off, insert a loaded mag in the frame and make sure the rounds aren't hitting on anything causing them to change direction like a misaligned ejector.

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In general, I'm not a Taurus fan. When the PT1911 came out I picked up one of the first available in my area. I figured for $460 out the door I'd give it a shot. Turns out it ran like a champ and was reasonably accurate. I didn't shot it a lot, maybe 800 rds, and into the safe it went to stay for 6yrs. A shooting buddy had a PT1911 in 9mm, and wanted to trade for the .45 for CDP division IDPA. I have multiple 1911s in .45, so why not? Turns out the 9mm Taurus runs just like the .45, reliable and reasonably accurate. I had a couple thousand 115gn bullets that I had no other use for, so I loaded them up as plinkers. I found those bullets would tumble unless I drove them up to around 1100fps. I don't normally load 115s, my standard is the 124/125 jacketed or plated. Which fly really well at around 1050 fps. If the OP is using 115s, I would suggest trying something in the 125gn range and see if that cures his bullet tumbling problem. Not sure what the twist rate is in the Taurus, but the one I have doesn't like slow 115s. Two things cause more malfunctions than anything else in the 1911 platform, in my experience: Bad magazines, and improper extractor tension. Those are the areas I'd look at first. Good luck!
str1

I have had a bunch of Taurii over the years. One gave me trouble. I bought it used. I had to pay to ship it to them. I got it back a few weeks later, halfway fixed. I had to pay to ship it back to them again. I got it back a month or so later all the way fixed. My FFL ships them for me for a $25 flat fee, which he charges me only when they get back to him, so it wasn't too terrible.

On the other hand, I have several very serviceable Taurii, and several others that are quite good.

You rolls the dice and you takes your chances.

As for the tumbling bullets try slugging your barrel. I have a Taurus PT-92 that initially gave me fits with tumbling bullets, very inaccurate and unreliable feeding and extraction.

A major portion of the problem was due to larger than standard groove diameter, slightly over .356". Once I started using .357" and .358" bullets the tumbling stopped and I started getting some accuracy.

Feed and extraction reliability went to 100% after I started pushing the 124/125 grain bullets over 1,000fps and started separating my cases by head stamp.

It's no bulls eye gun but it now shoots close to where I aim it and it doesn't cause me problems at the range.

MifflinKid,

You sort brass by head stamp? Are you saying your gun only runs with a specific manufacturer's brass? I'm a curious sort.
str1

Shooter1, yes I sort by head stamp. I try to do this for all of my reloads. I think it minimizes another variable that I think contributes to inaccuracy and poor cycling. I also try to shoot by reload lots but that is not always possible when scarfing up cases from the ground outdoors.

My PT-92 has a big chamber; any and all of my reloads with any head stamp passed the plunk and twist test. But with my initial 9mm reloads the gun did not cycle reliably. I was very frustrated with it. My other guns worked fine with my other reloads. But this gun would not shoot or function. I was very unhappy with it.

I noticed it was more reliable with commercial ammunition but not totally. After discussing this with two experienced reloaders, they both suggested I push the bullets to close to the commercial ammunition speed. That greatly improved cycling but it would still sometime fail to feed or extract. The faster reload also modestly improved accuracy.

I read an article in some gun rag about slugging barrels to aid in selecting bullet diameters. I did that and found out the PT-92 had a groove diameter of .3563" - .3564". The JHP bullets I was shooting were .3545", my commercial hard cast LRN bullets were running just a hair over .356". I did get some lead deposits in the barrel but not too much. Going to larger bullets improved accuracy and I noticed cycling became much better. The feel of the gun cycling felt smoother from shot to shot.

When is comes to running a semi-auto with my reloads testing in my guns has confirmed, to me, that sorting by head stamp improves accuracy. And, as a side benefit feeding and extraction became more consistent. Here is my theory on that. I think the feeding is improved because 1) the rounds are more consistent in pressure which results in 2) more consistent slide velocity. This more consistent slide velocity 3) causes the slide to strip the rounds off the magazines in a more similar manner each time the gun is fired. The rounds are then pushed into the chambers in the same way each time the slide cycles. My theory may be wrong but I think it explains what I have observed.

With regard to the PT-92, it is now 100% reliable with my reloads after making sure the bullets are big enough, the velocity is over 1,000fps with 124/125 grain bullets. It is still not a tack driver but it runs fine.

MifflinKid,
You're more serious that I am. No way I'm sorting by head stamp, nor have I found it necessary for my needs. I find a load that will run in all my 9mms with whatever bullet/case I choose. I don't need bullseye accuracy, which is good because I'm not capable of bullseye accuracy! Shooting action pistol sports, all I need is a gun and load that can hold the "A" at 30yds on a good day. I'm currently using 125gn plated bullets with good success.. If memory serves me correctly, Extreme Plated Bullets are available up to .358 dia on request.
str1