Survey: Millennials favor semi-automatic ban and UBC

I am going to post this once, hopefully it will get applied to any survey. Pollsters start with an agenda, and tailor the poll to fit the agenda. You can twist the numbers to say whatever you want them to say. Which is why both presidential candidates will win, Ford and Chevy are both America's favorite truck, Raisin Bran is better than Cheerios, but more doctors recommend Cheerios, etc.

I put very little faith in any survey's results, I vote/donate/voice my opinion to what I believe in, that is all I can do, I quit concerning myself with the numbers long ago.

My brother in law kids love shooting, One is 23 has an Ohio carry permit and he loves shooting as much as anyone here does. He has several handguns as well as several rifles including an .22 AR-15 type with a 40 round mag. His sister who is 21 plans to get her Ohio carry permit soon and loves to shoot her brothers guns as much as he does. Their younger brother also enjoys shooting his older guns but doesn't plan to get a carry permit just yet.

Several people I know in their late 20's to early 30's have carry permits or have expressed interest in getting their carry permits. Many of them love shooting rifles that have 30 rounds so they 'don't have to keep changing the magazine so much'.

Several of the people I mentioned bought some of their firearms through private sales, from a neighbor or through friends. I would imagine they would not be in favor of gun restrictions or any of that 'UBC' nonsense.
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I see a large number of what this younger generation buy small handguns (380s) at gun shows and at the range. Think a lot of young girls are carrying these w/o permits but don't seem to care. self protection is the rule.

It's important, as others have said, to look at the statistical validity of the poll. When I was in college studying psychology, one of my first assignments in Tests and Measures was to go to the library and find a published study with confounded results. There were tons of them. My prof was trying to impart the notion that not all published works are GOOD published works as well as to be mindful when we presented our data to make sure that the numbers were not skewed.

I think a wide margin on people would be fine with keeping guns out of the hands of psychotic and violent people. The devil is in the details with the follow up question of "how". Who decides? What constitutes "violent"? It's a slippery slope. We can all agree on that. How do you keep the public safe without infringing on the rights of responsible owners.

That said, as a guy in his mid-30s. I sometimes fall into the Millennal generation and sometimes lumped in as the tail end of Gen X. Personally, I feel more in tune with Gen X in my tastes and views, but being born in '81 puts me on the numerical fence.

I do have to agree that some of the responses come off as a bit crotchety. So what if younger people grew up playing violent military shooters instead of watching Gunsmoke. Why does that really matter? So they are young and under-informed about a great many things. Everyone in their 20's is an idiot. Some may have just lived long enough to have forgotten as much

I also think, to be fair, that we should point out that the Millenial generation is who is protecting our rights abroad as we speak. They are the ones that signed up for service when an active war was not only looming but on-going. Back when I graduated high school in 1999, kids went into the military either be "straightened up" or to get their college paid for. Service was practically cushy. The kids fighting today were not forced. There was no draft. They simply stepped up to the plate and went to war. For that, I can overlook some misinformed youngsters among their ranks.

I just think that it is unfair to paint a whole generation with a broad brush. Yes there are some of them that are young morons. Give them time. They'll figure it out.

Wouldn't surprise me. They've been getting brainwashed that guns are bad by liberals since Kindergarten.

Rio Laxas said:

Wait.....what?!?!

I'm in my early 30s, and I am considered a "millennial." I have been collecting firearms and shooting since my dad bought me a .22 at age 5. I don't favor any new gun control and would be happy to see the repeal of both the GCA 68 and NFA 34. I have read and more or less understand the constitution. When it comes to national politics, I do vote, and I am mostly a single issue voter. There are plenty of others like me.

Oh, and I "appropriate" tacos almost every day.

The majority of the politicians that are actively trying to take our rights away don't come from my generation. Maybe some day they will, but right now millennials hardly seem like the biggest threat to the 2nd Amendment.

Seriously this thread and the many others like it sound a lot like, "kids these days....."

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The plural of anecdote is not data.

Millennials don't vote, SEE HERE, AND HERE, AND HERE, AND HERE...

Millennials are not a threat to the 2A, they are instead inconsequential.

It has nothing to do with being a millenial, its about how the person was raised. In our current society, many are not educated or care enough to know the facts about the Constitution and current events.

Fear mongering and false reporting from the media and politicians doesn't help either.

This is, in part, a consequence of pairing the RKBA with various other socio-political positions. You have to be careful about ONLY packaging the RKBA with other political views. If someone doesn't like the package deal, not only will they not accept the entire package, they'll start disliking components of the package that they otherwise wouldn't find objectionable.

SuperNaut said:

The plural of anecdote is not data.

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Oh ok, I see, but reading some some gas bag says that says tacos are cultural appropriation, and then concluding that all (or even the majority of) millennials feel that way ISN'T anecdotal?

I don't know if there is a majority who feel that way but I'd bet it's the majority of the snowflakes you see walking around in public staring at their phones looking to catch some cartoon character.
Gets back to what I've said about the hearts and minds battle, some just aren't worth the effort because they'll scatter and turn in a heartbeat.

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Rio Laxas said:

Oh ok, I see, but reading some some gas bag says that says tacos are cultural appropriation, and then concluding that all (or even the majority of) millennials feel that way ISN'T anecdotal?

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It appears that you think I'm talking about you specifically.

I've also read that narcissism is a Millennial trait, but I know from experience that it spans all generations.

ugaarguy said:

And a Fox News poll says that Millenials are still fairly pro-gun - http://redalertpolitics.com/2016/06/30/poll-millennials-pro-gun-think/#lip6EItF8y3e5oSR.99.

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From your link:

"That’s why ultimately a majority of millennials, 53 to 25 percent, want the U.S. Congress to pass stricter gun control laws, even though most of them believe more guns make people safer and a plurality want a firearm themselves."