Alabama Gung-ho for Guns (Mobile Press Article)

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Next time you walk into your favorite Alabama restaurant, look around. Chances are that two-thirds of the customers will own a gun and nearly half will have a permit to carry a concealed weapon into the establishment.

That's according to the results of a new Press-Register/University of South Alabama poll. Sixty-six percent of respondents said they own a gun and 46 percent have a permit to carry a concealed weapon. The telephone survey of 424 Alabama residents was conducted Monday through Thursday, with a 5-percentage-point margin of error.

More than 80 percent of those surveyed said they agree with the U.S. Supreme Court's ruling last month in District of Columbia v. Heller, in which a majority of the justices ruled that the Second Amendment to the Constitution protects an individual's right to bear arms.

"It's not surprising, given the fact Alabama is a relatively conservative state where it's not only a constitutional issue, but a lot of people have guns and a lot of people hunt," said Keith Nicholls, director of the USA Polling Group, which conducted the survey.

Alabama has some of the least restrictive gun ownership laws in the nation, and experts said Thursday that the high court's decision will not affect the state. Permits to carry guns are only required for concealed weapons and there is no requirement for handgun owners to be licensed.

Of respondents with guns, 67 percent said they own a handgun, 54 percent a rifle and 56 percent a shotgun.

The poll results reflect a rate of gun ownership that is close to double the nation's, said Doug Pennington, spokesman for the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence, a Washington, D.C.-based gun control group.

Pennington knew of no research to explain that difference, but speculated that it is woven into the fabric of society. "There's a tradition and a culture that has grown over the generations, passed down from one to the other," he said.

At the National Rifle Association, the Virginia-based gun owners lobby, spokeswoman Rachel Parsons saw the Press-Register/USA poll results as further confirmation that a majority of Americans believe the Second Amendment protects an individual's right to own firearms.

A slight majority ? 52 percent ? said it is "very important" or "somewhat important" to have a firearm or ammunition when facing a natural disaster, such as a hurricane, while 46 percent said it is "not important" or "not very important."

The Alabama Emergency Management Agency bans firearms in its emergency shelters. The Federal Emergency Management Agency did ban firearms in trailer parks for victims of 2005's Hurricane Katrina, but later lifted it after protests from gun advocacy groups.

A little more than half of respondents ? 53 percent ? said they do not keep their weapons loaded at home.

While Alabamians support gun ownership, they do think there should be some restrictions in certain cases. Sixty-seven percent of those surveyed said felons who have paid their debt to society should not have a right to own a gun while 77 percent said they favor prohibiting ownership of fully automatic weapons.

Those numbers largely square with the beliefs of the Alabama Sheriff's Association, said executive director Bobby Timmons. The group supports individual gun ownership and banning ownership of automatic weapons.

"An automatic weapon is not used to kill anything except a person," Timmons said. "You're entitled to hunting weapons, (but) an automatic was invented with the intention to kill somebody, not an animal."

Gary Palmer, director of the Alabama Policy Institute, a conservative think tank, called the automatic weapons ban question an "uneducated debate," saying some confuse fully automatic weapons, which fire bullets as long as the trigger is pulled, with semi-automatic weapons, which fire one bullet for each pull of the trigger.

The federal assault weapons ban, which lasted from 1994 to 2004, expanded a 1934 ban on automatic weapons ? which is still in place ? to cover certain types of semi-automatic firearms.

The NRA's Parsons signaled disagreement with respondents who believe that people should be barred from keeping machine guns and fully automatic weapons in their homes.

Anyone wanting to own such a weapon faces a lengthy and demanding review process, including several background checks, Parsons said, adding that legally owned fully automatic firearms result in little or no crime.

"The NRA stands firmly by the notion that law-abiding citizens are not the problem," she said.

A Press-Register/USA poll conducted in 2000 found that 60 percent of respondents wanted stricter control of gun sales, but 63 percent said they believed such measures would do little to reduce violent crime.

Last week's poll also found significant disparities in gun ownership. Eighty-percent of people surveyed who live in rural areas possess firearms, while 54 percent of those in suburban areas do. Seventy-five percent of whites said they own guns, while only 40 percent of blacks own them. Experts contacted by the Press-Register said they did not know the exact reasons for those disparities.

Sixty-one percent of suburban gun owners said they keep their guns loaded, while only 40 percent of rural ones said they do.

"My speculation is that people have more practical uses for weapons in rural areas," Nicholls said. "In suburban areas, they're more concerned about protecting themselves."

(Press-Register Washington Bureau Reporter Sean Reilly contributed to this report.)
 
"The poll results reflect a rate of gun ownership that is close to double the nation's."

Another reason why it's called "Alabama-The Beautiful"! "From scenic mountains in the north to sugar sand gulf beaches in the south....and free folks armed to the teeth."

(I added that last part to the APT slogan, hehehe.)
 
46 percent have a permit to carry a concealed weapon.

I call shenanigans.

The highest percentage of any state is ~11% in south dakota (if memory is correct). And that is a remarkable figure.

No way does almost half of any town have a CCW permit. I wouldnt believe it until I saw documentation from the county/sheriff who administers the permits.

-T
 
Shhh. Just send a copy of this article to your local elected officials and let them think half of their contituants are armed and want to stay armed. Maybe they won't check the facts and go with the prercieved political winds.
 
Thanks goodness we rank high on at least one "good list" lol
I encourage everyone I know to get some training and a CCW.
 
It IS a very polite society down here. We all say Yes Sir and Yes Maam. Partly because that's how our Mama's raised us and partly because, well, we don't want to get shot!

RMD
 
I call shenanigans.

The highest percentage of any state is ~11% in south dakota (if memory is correct). And that is a remarkable figure.

No way does almost half of any town have a CCW permit. I wouldnt believe it until I saw documentation from the county/sheriff who administers the permits.
Agreed, I'm all for pro gun articles but they need to be accurate and if the number shows that half of Alabama residents have a permit, the methodology for the poll is seriously broken.
 
"You're entitled to hunting weapons, (but) an automatic was invented with the intention to kill somebody, not an animal."

Maybe I dont read so well, so can someone tell me which part of the second amendment is about hunting? I must not be undserstanding it correctly when I'm reading it....:rolleyes:
 
I am going to think that most of AL residents do NOT have a CCW permit. That was just a small sampling. But, I will say that the majority of my family, and ALL of my friends that own guns have and maintain their CCWs. :)
 
Maybe I dont read so well, so can someone tell me which part of the second amendment is about hunting? I must not be undserstanding it correctly when I'm reading it....

I think you read the Second Amendment correctly. If you're wrong, though, so is the majority of the Supreme Court and you're in good company.

It's possible that Mr. Timmons of the Alabama Sheriff's Association means that the sheriffs refuse to have automatic firearms because they have no intention of killing anyone.

Or maybe Mr. Timmons means that the sheriffs want to be the only people to have automatic firearms because they do intend to kill people rather than to stop them. If so, those sheriffs are naughty and need to be spanked. They're self-declared killers. No pudding for them.
 
I call shenanigans.

The highest percentage of any state is ~11% in south dakota (if memory is correct). And that is a remarkable figure.

No way does almost half of any town have a CCW permit. I wouldnt believe it until I saw documentation from the county/sheriff who administers the permits.
Agreed, I'm all for pro gun articles but they need to be accurate and if the number shows that half of Alabama residents have a permit, the methodology for the poll is seriously broken.
The story says it was a telephone poll. I’ll say that is the shenanigans and/or broken methodology. Some people say things to telephone pollster that they would never say to a person face-to-face. Especially if a teenager picks up the phone when the pollster calls. (“Yes sir, I’m 47 years old, a registered voter and have a CCW to carry my Glock 7 everywhere I go.”)
 
I have trouble believing that almost half of the state populaton has an Alabama Pistol License, but I believe that there are pockets in the state where that number is about right. Like everything else, it is location. If one looks at Madison County (home to Huntsville), it tougher to get a permit due to the number of hoops one must jump through.

In Limestone County (just to the west of Madison County), the process is quick and easy. Lots of Limestone County residents have licenses even though they may not carry on a regular basis. Whole families go to get the permits renewed at the same time.

Heck, the Limestone County Sheriff's Office is holding a pistol class for women and the only requirements to take the class are that the attendee must be female and must have a Pistol License. I am trying to get my wife to take the class (heck, I want to take the class but do not meet one of the requirements), but she keeps reminding me she knows how to shoot. I must admit that she does and that she is a much better shot than me.
 
I know there are alot of rural areas in Alabama that consist of mostly VERY poor black people. Then they're cities in between.

I know on the Gulf Coast ALOT of the firearms ownership has gone up due to not only the storm but the amount of crime as a result of Katrina evacuees moving here.

I live outside of Mobile, but nearly everyone on my street owns at least one firearm.

On the CCW numbers, I doubt it's that high. I would estimate around 20% in Mobile county. It's incredibly easy to get here with only a backgroud check and $20. Everytime I go to renew it the room is always packed with 20-30 people.
 
Those numbers largely square with the beliefs of the Alabama Sheriff's Association, said executive director Bobby Timmons. The group supports individual gun ownership and banning ownership of automatic weapons.

"An automatic weapon is not used to kill anything except a person," Timmons said. "You're entitled to hunting weapons, (but) an automatic was invented with the intention to kill somebody, not an animal."

I can almost smell the fuddness through the computer screen.
 
"If one looks at Madison County (home to Huntsville), it tougher to get a permit due to the number of hoops one must jump through. "

I live in Madison County and have a CCW. The "hoops" were pretty easy to me. Fill out an application, pay a fee. It took about 2 weeks and two trips to the Sheriff's office. Everytime I've been there they have been extremely busy. Considering everything, I think it was pretty easy to get.
 
I bet the 50% number is close to correct.....but most of the 50% have guns in the car WITHOUT a permit.....
Which I don't have a problem with but the LAW does unfortunately.
 
It took about 2 weeks and two trips to the Sheriff's office.
In Limestone, it takes five minutes as an instant background check is performed. I waited in line longer to get my license than I did to go through the process.
 
An automatic weapon is not used to kill anything except a person," Timmons said. "You're entitled to hunting weapons, (but) an automatic was invented with the intention to kill somebody, not an animal."

Oh Boy! Typical defense with firearms often includes the act of killing someone or some persons. That is just how it is some times.
 
If they can't figure out how many illegal aliens there are, why would we believe that they were right about any other numbers, even the census numbers are known just to be a rough estimate, "Guess" usually 5+ years old. I never had a person come top my door and ask me who lived here, if they start allowing for these houses that contain 3 or more familys, and illegals and seniors who rent a room in a private home, imagine how skewed the figures are
 
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