midway dogtown .224?

I may be an isolated case but I thought I should mention it

ohihunter2014 said:

how are those as far as accuracy? I seen those also but 50gr and a little worried buying a lot at that price with my 1-9 twist.

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They'll shoot just as good as V-Max of the same weight. I believe the 50gr Z-Max doesn't have a cannelure while the 55gr does. Or at least the 55gr used to have a cannelure, looking at Hornady's website it appears the 55gr has been discontinued. If you don't want to buy 500 of the 50gr Z-Max without testing them, just pick up 100 of the 50gr V-Max. And if you like those, buy the 500 Z-Max. It'll take some testing but I'm sure you can find a load that your Savage will like. My Edge has the same 1:9 twist barrel and it does just fine with the 50gr. Anything lighter might be a different story.

I have not run these though the paces like I would had they been in my Savage F-TR.


In an Adams Arms, piston setup, free float tube, the fifty grain Zmax will riddle the orange one inch dots. Seven eighths MOA I would say. With Ramshot Tac. Cfe223 is not that tight. But around one inch.

The fifty five grain soft point with cannelure dances about the orange circle, refusing to touch it, lest on a whim. Evidently she does not prefer these. I have wondered if the ride from magazine to chamber is hard on the meplat. The Zmax solving that problem. However, every time I begin firing I keep going till I hear 'click'. 8)

I may have to try them in the Savage.


But I am at the range in a different mindset when I get the AR out. I look at how I shot (wind, bad pull) and know which load is more accurate. But I don't really measure targets with that rifle. They go in the burn pit, instead of a folder.

Hornady's fifty grain super explosive soft point is a solid four to six tenths round in the Savage. Seven twist, thirty inch barrel, Cfe223.

someguy2800post: 10548749 said:

I may be an isolated case but I thought I should mention it

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Key holeing and disintegration are rifling problems. On opposite ends of the spectrum. But, as I am sure you know, Criterion barrles solve that. I have been quite lucky with the factory tube, but waited til I had four or five hundered, thicker target bullets down it to smooth it out, before trying the lighter ones.
They also were not loaded Nuclear. Just used the same load as with the seventy-five grain boat-tailed hollow points. Just to try them.
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Demi-human said:

Key holeing and disintegration are rifling problems. On opposite ends of the spectrum. But, as I am sure you know, Criterion barrles solve that. I have been quite lucky with the factory tube, but waited til I had four or five hundered, thicker target bullets down it to smooth it out, before trying the lighter ones.
They also were not loaded Nuclear. Just used the same load as with the seventy-five grain boat-tailed hollow points. Just to try them.
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The funny thing is it did the same thing with the new barrel and the smith from savage that put it on even bought it back as he said he wanted it for his personal rifle. Said it was the best shooting barrel he ever saw when they test fired it

I have used the 55 gr HP flat based DogTown bullets in my Remington 700 223 with 1:12 twist barrel. The results have been great. At 200 yards, the 5 shot groups have been 0.6 MOA. With one 4 shot group printing 0.35 inches.

At 100 yards 0.35 to 0.6 inch 5 shot groups are the norm.

Interestingly, Sierra 52gr HPBT match bullets have been more like 0.75 MOA in this rifle
Hope this helps. Just bought 1000 more at the sale price, awaiting delivery.

Lou

To date I've tried 4 different 55GR .224 bullets. The Nosler Varmegeddon was my second best as far as accuracy. For me the Sierra Pro-Hunter flat base SPT was the most accurate. The Nosler provided a nice balance between cost and accuracy. I want to say I paid ~.10-.12/round.

I also have shot Hornady FMJ-BT and @ .08/round the price is right but don't expect them the be one hole at 100 yards. You may be able to do it but do not expect it. FWIW I'm shooting from an AR, and I know you are shooting a bolt. My AR is 1:8 twist.

I've tried the Midway Dogtowns in 50 and 55 Gr for .223 Rem/.22-250.

Opinion: 'Meh'.

V-Max, Z-Max, B-Tips, and SMKs all give me better accuracy.

They're a step above FMJs, but there are better bullets IMO.

If top accuracy on a budget is the goal the nosler varmagedons are a fantastic product

ohihunter2014 said:

im going to try the HP version of them. they are a couple bucks cheaper than v max so ill save a few $ here and there.

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I thought you were going crazy saying that Varmegeddons were cheaper than V-Max. But I haven't bought any bullets in almost a year, so I went and checked my usualy sources. Hornady bullets have gone UP!! The 55gr V-Max look to have gone up 25-30%. I just might have to make a switch for my target ammo.

ohihunter2014 said:

wondering if anyone uses them in 223rem with good results?

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Yes, I've used well over 1,000, and yes, I get good results.

My test was factory ammo vs reloaded.
My pattern was 1/2 the size.

I've gone through my share of dogtown hollow points and they are a great value. Remarkably accurate because of the thin jacket and lightweight nose IMO. Haven't used the soft points.

spitballer said:

Haven't used the soft points.

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Just to qualify my statement: I used only the soft points. The hollow points may be nicer.

The thing with the Dogtown bullets is that if they don't have the weight and configuration you want, just wait a few weeks and they're liable to show up.

Hornady 55 FMJBT can be purchased for .0725 apiece from Monmouth if you buy 2000.

I shoot those with good results in a bolt gun (1/9 barrel) using AR Comp.

That's the least expensive bullet I've found and it works.

http://www.monmouthreloading.com/shop/hornady-55-fmj-bullets/

Midway wants 0.09 apiece for the same bullet and they jack you on the shipping.