Do knife prices reflect reality?

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Once you get above $100 or so, it seems like there is a big jump in knife prices as you move away from the Gerber/Buck/Case world into smaller manufacturers. Is there a corresponding jump in quality? Or does it just cost more for the smaller companies to make the knives?
 
If you can teach computer run machines to make the knife in question, the price will be lower. Hand assembly, material costs drive prices up. If the knife is hand made, you are paying for proprietary design and the maker's time. Part of the exorbitant cost of custom knives is original design, and the sundown of demand as the design demand gets stale.
 
The answer a subjective and murky one. Will a $100 knife cut 100% better than a $50 knife? Of course not. The same can be said about going up to a $200 or $400 or $2200 custom.

Furthermore, what some call "upper end" knives is defined differently by others. My old man won't spend more than $40 on a Buck 110. It's worked for him for about 50 years. Some guys don't dabble below the $600 midtech and prefer total custom work in the thousands of dollars. They tend to truly enjoy the one of a kind, handmade knife with a fit and finish impossible to achieve on a mass produced knife.

My personal range for a folder is $140-$300. I find I prefer the build quality and materials used on knives like Zero Tolerance to offer more performance and pride of ownership than lower end knives. That said, a $50 Spyderco Endura carried me for a long time, not to mention the little ol' loyal Swiss Army Knife, and of course the classic tough guy knife...the Buck 110.

I will never question a man for spending what I make in a month of a pocket knife. Likewise, I will never look down upon a man who gets along just fine with a $15 gas station folder. At the end of the day, a knife cuts. That's all it HAS to do. How long you want it to cut, how well you want it to cut, and how long you want the knife to last is personal preference.

I look at it the same way as I do gun purchases. You will never catch me spending over $1000 on a handgun. I don't require a custom 1911 or a race gun or a tuned high-speed low-drag "platform". However, so do want/require those things. I wish them the best and hope they are happy with their purchases. I'm fine with plastic pistols in the sub $600 range. They suit my needs for what I require.
 
I can't remember spending more than $25 on a knife in a long time. I currently carry Kershaw Cryo II that I got off Woot for $22. But anymore I normally carry a multi-tool instead of a knife. On the weekend out in the wood I will carry the Kershaw and a full-size multi-tool (Surge) but during the week a Skeletool is all I carry as it does 99% of the stuff I need a pocket tool to do. In the end I view knife/multi-tool as just a tool. I would be happy to pay more if I got more functionality out of it but my $22 Kershaw and $30 Skeletool does just about anything functionally that much more expensive knives can do. I want to be buy on that Price-Performance curve at the point just before the price spikes for minimal increase in performance.
 
Many areas of spending that similar thought comes through, will X bring a level of performance over another. My perception is that once a specific level of materials and build is obtained, the differences are minimal. That leads to how much marketing is involved to sway a purchase. ;)
 
It depends on what you mean.

People know I can sharpen knives, so it's not uncommon for folks to bring their knives by for "service". I clean them up, do whatever I can to make them work better with the tools & resources I have (lubricate pivots, tighten screws/pivots, adjust pocket clips that are too tight or loose, etc.) and then sharpen them. I can tell which ones are garbage and which ones are quality by the time I hand them back to the owner.

But (assuming they're not dangerous or so shoddy that they can't hold an edge at all or will break almost immediately), all of them serve their intended purpose and even the relatively cheap ones do so quite well.

Does that mean there's no benefit in buying higher quality? No, it doesn't mean that at all. Higher quality does buy you tangible performance differences. Edges that are less likely to chip and that won't wear away as rapidly due to use and repeated sharpenings. Blade geometries that are functional and durable. Pivots that operate smoothly and don't loosen up rapidly. Locks that continue to work properly as the knife accumulates wear. Handle materials that continue to look and perform well even after lots of wear and use. Clips that won't break or bend and aren't so tight that they tear up clothing or so loose that you lose the knife. Designs that are well thought out and are therefore easier/safer/more pleasant to use and that work better.

As with anything, the returns diminish as the price goes up. A $65 knife is probably a tremendous practical improvement over a $15 knife, but going up another $50 to a $135 knife won't provide nearly the same benefit. And going from a $135 knife to a $300 knife may barely provide any practical benefits at all.

Of course, it's not always about practical benefits. There are other valid reasons people buy $500 knives, and how well they stand up to hard use or perform in a rope cutting test may not enter into those reasons at all.
 
With many of the higher priced knives, you're paying for aesthetics. So in addition to the "bones" of the knife, it also becomes a question of how much are you willing to pay for art?

I like my Leek in all black. It cost a little more, but cuts the same as a silver one. For a knife I see everyday, it is a small price to pay for something I enjoy.

Now expand that up to someone with a large amount of disposable income. Same principle for a knife costing hundreds or thousands.
 
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With a USA made knife vs another USA made knife price and quality go fairly hand in hand. But as with any product the higher you go up in price the smaller the difference in quality. A $50 knife is generally a lot better than a $25 knife. But the difference between many $100 knives and many $200 knifes is usually pretty small. At that point I think it is more which features you want and are willing to pay for.

If willing to buy a knife made in Asia then you can buy a lot of knife for $20-$50. There are several Chinese made Kershaw and Spyderco knives that sell for $20-$50 that are pretty nice. There just isn't that much difference between them and a $150-$200 Zero Tolerance or Benchmade. If you don't mind buying Chinese.
 
With a USA made knife vs another USA made knife price and quality go fairly hand in hand. But as with any product the higher you go up in price the smaller the difference in quality. A $50 knife is generally a lot better than a $25 knife. But the difference between many $100 knives and many $200 knifes is usually pretty small. At that point I think it is more which features you want and are willing to pay for.

If willing to buy a knife made in Asia then you can buy a lot of knife for $20-$50. There are several Chinese made Kershaw and Spyderco knives that sell for $20-$50 that are pretty nice. There just isn't that much difference between them and a $150-$200 Zero Tolerance or Benchmade. If you don't mind buying Chinese.

I would disagree that the 20-50 dollar Chinese knives are of the same quality as the ZT or BM. They are very, very good knives, but the blade steel and handle materials aren't quite there. I would say that they are every bit of good as your typical 75-90 dollar US made knife.

That said, Chinese manufacturing has come a long way. There are a couple of high end knives around the 200-300 mark coming out of China that are every bit as good as ZT. I know I plan on picking up a few, especially a fixed blade.
 
I've never been a fan of Chinese knives, but Boker has been bringing in some really nice folders lately. They are very nicely made with great blades.
 
Once you get above $100 or so, it seems like there is a big jump in knife prices as you move away from the Gerber/Buck/Case world into smaller manufacturers. Is there a corresponding jump in quality? Or does it just cost more for the smaller companies to make the knives?

Made a few. Grade of steel all important. Research will teach what needs to be known. What I look for is: How easy are they to sharpen, how well do they hold an edge. I once bought a $50 German made paring knife that would take a moderately good edge but is almost impossible to sharpen really well. If you look in a knife maker's catalog, you can discover a lot. The cheaper Chinese knifes will never use really good steel. Period.
 
Moving up the ladder in price, a buyer expects .....quality. In material and workmanship. Maybe a custom made knife is the way to go. J s/n.
 
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