Waiting on Gunsmith support thread

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Do you ever get impatient waiting on your gunsmith to complete work on your firearm?

I'm not making this thread to make a bad review about my particular gunsmith, I'm more just looking to commiserate with others in the same boat who can't wait to get their gun back so they can take it to the range, go hunting, etc :thumbup:

Share your stories here! :D
 
Well....both my gunsmith and I forgot id dropped a rifle off to be worked on for about 3 months. He couldnt get the barrel off, and it got put in the back of the safe, i called after i remembered it a while later lol.

Otherwise everything else ive droped off has literally been done before i noticed it.

Ive had a few guns at ERshaw, and that wait is usually 2-3 months.....i usually jones for a couple weeks after sending the gun out, then i forget about it, then i jones for a week after they call me for payment.

Right now im waiting on them to finish the .375 ruger barrel for my latest project.... probably another couple weeks.....
 
Years ago my brother gave me his muzzle loading squirrel gun to work on. It took a while but I finally figured out why the lock got hung up. Fixed it. Also made the wedges for the stock as well as escutcheons for it. Got a raw brass casted trigger guard and filed it up and fitted it. Last year I got a ramrod and fittings for it. Tried four times to pour a pewter nosecap on it but always failed. The size is so small and the metal cools off too fast (even with two torches keeping heat on it). I may make a horn nose for it now. My brother isn't happy.
 
I admit, this is my first time to ever send a gun to a gunsmith for work. All of my guns function smoothly, and I'm only having my semi-local smith pillar-bed this rifle because I've never done any glass-bedding before and want to make sure it's done right the first time in this, my most expensive bolt-action. Well, that, and I had planned to do the work myself back in mid-2014, and seeing as I never found time to do it myself in the years since then, I figured it would be best to "outsource" the project so SOMEONE would finally get it done! :D

When I dropped it off, I was given an estimate of "4-6 weeks". My birthday was exactly 6 weeks after drop-off, so I thought to myself "cool, it'll be kind of a psuedo-birthday present to myself". After 7 weeks, I called, and they said mine was "the fourth gun back" (from currently being worked on) and that work would only take a few days. Last Thursday was the 8 week marker, and this upcoming Thursday will be 9 weeks. I hate to pester them, but man, it makes you wonder what's going on? :uhoh:
 
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Thats....a long time for a bedding job.....that coulda/shoulda been done in-between any major work they had. Unless of course they are one of the shops where they strictly work on one job at a time.

Your far more patient than i would have been i i think.....
 
The idea of taking something to a gunsmith is almost an alien concept to me.

Years ago I did once take a piece to Clark Bros gunshop for a tiny bit of TIG-related repair ... and it seemed to fall into a black hole. After finally getting the item back I decided, "Never again".

I even added a TIG welder to my shop after that. ;)

In general, I figure that if I cannot do the work (and I can competently handle many "gunsmith" tasks), the work does not need to be done.

Well ... maybe bluing, since setting-up & running up my system out back is an all-day PITA that demands that I have accumulated and prepped a LOT of pieces to make it worth my time. :)
 
Sure, some of my projects take awhile--don't really want to do any lathework nor certain machining operations. My gunsmith and I have an understanding, I get relatively cheap prices quoted and he does my projects during his downtime. Sometimes, it means a 6-8 month wait depending on what he has going on.
 
I think it’s because there aren't enough of them, and the main reason for that is it’s hard to make a living doing it

It is.

That's why some of us only do certain aspects. I don't do squat with stocks or refinishing; I'll leave that stuff to the old timer who seemingly doesn't mind netting $10 or $15/hr. I stick to the metal work, and often take on jobs that other "gunsmiths" can't handle, since I'm a machinist first and have a very well equipped shop where I can literally manufacture any part but the rifled barrels from raw stock. Most shops have lots of counter space with a bunch of gun vises and cloths everywhere with all manner of things for swapping sights, cosmetic work and refinishing, and maybe a ****ty old Bridgeport and some mid-sized chicom lathe in the corner, usually looking like they haven't been turned on in awhile, and even longer since cleaned.

My model is different. I don't really do cleaning, scope installation, other tedious crap that people really should be doing themselves. You will find nary a firearm in my shop except the one I'm working on, and there's little else to indicate that I work on guns. What you will see are well kept and very well tooled top-of-the-line American and European Mills & lathes. I'm what you would probably call a "heavy line" smith.

Another thing that sets me apart as this thread goes is my turn around time, which is usually inside of 2 weeks, parts orders notwithstanding.
 
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It is.

That's why some of us only do certain aspects. I don't do squat with stocks or refinishing; I'll leave that stuff to the old timer who seemingly doesn't mind netting $10 or $15/hr. I stick to the metal work, and often take on jobs that other "gunsmiths" can't handle, since I'm a machinist first and have a very well equipped shop where I can literally manufacture any part but the rifled barrels from raw stock. Most shops have lots of counter space with a bunch of gun vises and cloths everywhere with all manner of things for swapping sights, cosmetic work and refinishing, and maybe a ****ty old Bridgeport and some mid-sized chicom lathe in the corner, usually looking like they haven't been turned on in awhile, and even longer since cleaned.

My model is different. I don't really do cleaning, scope installation, other tedious crap that people really should be doing themselves. You will find nary a firearm in my shop except the one I'm working on, and there's little else to indicate that I work on guns. What you will see are well kept and very well tooled top-of-the-line American and European Mills & lathes. I'm what you would probably call a "heavy line" smith.

Another thing that sets me apart as this thread goes is my turn around time, which is usually inside of 2 weeks, parts orders notwithstanding.

MachIVShooter, I've seen your good work that you've posted and I suspect that you are right on specialization in the future if you want to do well at it.

My gunsmith's store is like the old timey gunsmith you describe--reloading--firearms. However, there are three generations of gunsmiths under that roof and they can darn near troubleshoot and fix all sorts of obsolete firearms. They are some of the few folks around that I would trust working on Colt revolvers for example. The 2nd generation one does machining work in batches, then does bluing in batches, etc., and then focuses on getting hunting folks out the door during prime hunting season. The 1st generation helps out primarily with knowledge and doing certain tedious jobs like relining .22 LR bores. Going into their shop is like a museum of firearms with everything from Brown Besses to modern rifles--they sell quite a few used firearms on consignment. The third generation are just starting and do some of the routine work.

That is why I am patient with them as they have always treated me right and done darn fine work. Just takes awhile. There was a guy that did similar to what you did nearby but he got to manufacturing silencers (yes he is licensed for it) so much that he dropped other gunsmithing/machining as a distraction. It was a pity as he did good work.
 
I don't , and probably couldn't, make a living as a gunsmith however I enjoy reading the thoughts of those that do.
 
There is another aspect to this, especially in suburban NYC.

There are many gunshops in Nassau and Suffolk counties, BUT they actually don't do their own work. There are very few actual gunsmiths available. Those who are available take in work from the gun stores as well as individuals. Common sense, right or wrong, indicates your individual repair or whatever is going to go the end of the production line to accommodate the high volume feed from the retailers.
 
Well, tomorrow will mark 10 weeks the gunsmith has had my rifle. With a quoted time of 4-6 weeks, I'm wondering if they've seriously screwed up my gun and aren't sure how to admit it/spin it? I've been calling as infrequently as possible (once every 1-2 weeks at the most), but I think I'm going to have to pay them a visit tomorrow and lay eyes on my gun myself to see what the next steps need to be. I've had enough of their excuses...

I don't do squat with stocks or refinishing; I'll leave that stuff to the old timer who seemingly doesn't mind netting $10 or $15/hr.
I was quoted $175-200 for pillar bedding my stock. How many hours of hands-on work does it typically take to do that job? (I'm seriously asking- I'm not being a jerk.)
 
I have to come down firmly on both sides of this one, having been on both sides. One thing I definitely advise is that the customer and the gunsmith agree (in writing if necessary) on exactly what is to be done and how. What materials are needed and who provides them? What needs to be done, exactly? What IS pillar bedding? (Customers (and sometimes smiths) are often unwilling to admit they don't know what a term means; make sure both are on the same page.

Then get a firm completion date. (A good gunsmith should be able to keep to a schedule; if he can't/won't, find someone who can. His time for explaining delays was when the work was contracted, not when it has been gathering dust and rust for six years!)

Beware of the smith who has plenty of time to talk guns all day. He may be a nice guy with you, but he is not doing the work he promised someone else.

Jim
 
Jim,

Yes, this being my first time to employ the services of a smith, has certainly been a learning experience. I certainly won't be using this one again, and while *I* know the exact details of what was quoted, I'll be sure it is on paper next time.

These guys are THE gunsmiths that all the gun shops in town refer you to, and I provided all of the materials besides the fiberglass compound and release agent, so... it shouldn't have been hard. The most recent excuse was something having to do with their release agent being expired, but somehow "everything else is done." Uh, seems like if you haven't yet applied release agent, you haven't bedded the rifle?!? Why do I get the feeling I know more about the process than they do, when they supposedly bed rifles all the time? *scratches head*

It's interesting, though. This shop is exclusively a smith, not attached to a shop or range. Anytime you talk to them, in person or on the phone, they sound like they don't want to talk to you. You'd think with that approach they at least wouldn't be burning work time with idle talk, that's for sure. I can only attribute their staying in business to a shortage of (well-known) gunsmiths in the area?
 
I was quoted $175-200 for pillar bedding my stock. How many hours of hands-on work does it typically take to do that job?

Several hours. It will vary some from gun to gun depending on what the smith encounters. The price you were quoted is fair. Without knowing anything about your smith I can't comment on his qualifications to do the work.
 
Hallelujah! The saga concluded today, in a good way. When I left the house this morning, I was expecting I'd be paying them a housecall later in the day to see what exactly was going on. But they beat me to the punch by leaving a message this morning that the work was finished, and my rifle was ready to pick up! Thinking back to the first time I tried to visit their shop (they had apparently closed shop early for the day, and my 40 min round trip was for nothing), I was sure to get there early in the afternoon, and luckily they hadn't decided to go fishing (etc) despite the good weather.

Despite my concerns, everything appears to be good with the rifle. The barreled action and the stock now mate perfectly together (they weren't manufactured together, and were a loose fit before). And even though it took exactly 10 weeks instead of the 4-6 weeks they quoted, I'm just glad to have it back...

Several hours. It will vary some from gun to gun depending on what the smith encounters. The price you were quoted is fair. Without knowing anything about your smith I can't comment on his qualifications to do the work.
Yes, when I had called around, the few quotes I had received were all in that range (roughly $200). I was happily surprised that when they brought the gun out, they stuck to their quote of $175 (actually, that was the bottom end of the range they quoted). So while they took double the time they said they would, at least my gun is back in my hands, and I didn't have to pay any more than planned.

That's the end of my story, but feel free to share others!
 
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True....hardest thing ive done on mine honestly was finding a firing pin for a pre2k, only one guy makes them.
Gutting (then ungutting) them is no fun tho....infact i rather dislike complete disasembly on any semi auto pistol.
 
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