Please Inform about a HK P30SK V1

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rjk2475

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I've been looking for this model to try a LEM; can't find one. Anyone with experience here please share.
 
I have one. What would you like to know specifically?

It has a long and light take up, with a very clean break. Reset is fine in my opinion.

My P30SK is my carry gun 8 months a year. Great gun.
 
not being able to find a LEM to try, can you describe it and why you prefer it?
 
not being able to find a LEM to try, can you describe it and why you prefer it?
@rjk2475

My preference for the LEM trigger comes partly from my shooting background.

I started shooting handguns on DA/SA revolvers, and that’s what I carried. So a long trigger stroke feels normal to me.

I later started carrying a SA XDs45 with a striker action.

Then there came my HK45. It’s a traditional DA/SA trigger with a safety lever/decocker. It has a long and relatively heavy DA trigger pull, but it is very smooth. The SA trigger pull is fine and it breaks very cleanly.

So then the P30SK came along and I decided to handle one as I had made the decision that more ammo was important to me given some changes in my environment where multiple attackers was more of a possibility. I really liked the feel of the gun and the interchangeable panels is a really nice touch. Plus I have two other HKs and they are great guns.

So I’d heard a lot about the LEM trigger, but I also couldn’t find one to lay hands on. So I took a chance and ordered one blind.

The LEM trigger has a long travel distance but the initial take up is very light and smooth. I mean a 100 year old or a 2 year old could pull it. Resistance increases a noticible but when you are perhaps 75% of the way to trigger break. Then the break comes and it is very clean, crisp, and requires a deliberate choice to fire. However, if you have a no manual safety, care must be taken when holstering. A stray shirt that has crept into the trigger guard could lead to an accidental discharge. Be careful, and keep your thumb on the hammer when holstering and you’re good.

The reason this trigger is nice and light is that the cycling of the action precocks the action. If you dry fire it and then pull the trigger without cycling the slide, the trigger pull is much heavier and is what the standard LEM feels like.

The light takeup with very discernible stop befor trigger break makes this a very easy trigger to stage and an easy gun to run fast which is of course critical on a defense gun.

So the reason I told you about the earlier guns I own and carried is because this trigger is almost like a combination of other trigger designs. If you can shoot a revolver the long travel of the takeup will feel very normal. If you like a single action or light striker fired trigger, the trigger break will feel very normal to you. If you’ve ever fired a factory HK DA/SA trigger, the light LEM will feel awesome in comparison.

It takes a little getting used to but once you do, it’s a great system. I will not buy another HK hammer fired gun without a light LEM, and I’m most likely going to buy the conversion kit and convert my HK45.

Also, the Law Enforcement packaged HKs are a good value. You get three magazines rather than two and you get really excellent night sights. And it only adds about $100 to the price.

If I need to clarify anything let me know. I believe forum member @cfullgraf carries one of these guns also so I pinged him Incase he wants to participate.
 
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460Shooter Thank you much for the help; I will continue to look for a LEM to try.
 
460 Shooter said: "However, if you have a no manual safety, care must be taken when holstering. A stray shirt that has crept into the trigger guard could lead to an accidental discharge. Be careful, and keep your thumb on the hammer when holstering and you’re good.

This concern is the reason I went from a PPQ(which I never have carried) to a DA/SA and a DAO; is it correct to assume the LEM is similar to my PPQ with just a longer take up?
 
@rjk2475


If I need to clarify anything let me know. I believe forum member @cfullgraf carries one of these guns also so I pinged him Incase he wants to participate.

I like my P30SK but it is a V3 trigger not the V1. This is why I had not chimed in earlier.

The V3 is what I would call a typical DA/SA trigger with a heavy, long DA pull and a short, light SA trigger pull. It is my preference for a semi-auto carry pistol but not everyone likes the heavy DA trigger or the change in trigger pull when the handgun goes to the SA trigger.
 
460 Shooter said: "However, if you have a no manual safety, care must be taken when holstering. A stray shirt that has crept into the trigger guard could lead to an accidental discharge. Be careful, and keep your thumb on the hammer when holstering and you’re good.

This concern is the reason I went from a PPQ(which I never have carried) to a DA/SA and a DAO; is it correct to assume the LEM is similar to my PPQ with just a longer take up?

No, that is not the case. The PPQ is a striker fired gun with a trigger blade safety, that has a short and light trigger pull. In that circumstance, if you are holstering the gun and something gets into the trigger guard and depresses the trigger safety, it can fire when you push it in the holster.

The LEM is a DAO hammer fired gun, with an exposed hammer, and can be acquired with either a safety lever, or no safety at all. The trigger pull is considerably longer than a striker gun. If holstering a non safety P30SK, there is no trigger blade safety. So my way of holstering the P30SK is to push it into my holster with my thumb on the hammer, and if I think there is even a hint of hammer movement, I stop. I would not carry this trigger style without a good kydex holster.

Two very different trigger mechanisms. I can take a few pictures if need be.
 
I have been able to examine and dry fire a P30SK V3; though I really like this gun and would consider it, the DA(to me) is very heavy. I have a Sig P229 with a manageable DA, however, a lighter gun would be nice. Also, another in the stable is a Walther P99 AS which I alternate with a Sig P250 SC for carry. I hope the above supplies additional background for more responses to my post. Thank you.
 
This concern is the reason I went from a PPQ(which I never have carried) to a DA/SA and a DAO; is it correct to assume the LEM is similar to my PPQ with just a longer take up?
Here's an article on "The LEM as a Street Trigger" by Darryl Bolke. He compares and contrasts the typical semi-auto pistol actions from single action, to DA/SA, to striker, to LEM.

https://pistol-training.com/archives/8549
 
The above is a very helpful read; now I need to find HK P30SK 9mm V1 unless there is a better recommendation.
 
Just realize that the long take up on the LEM is however VERY light until it hits the wall. Feels like maybe two lbs. Still like the trigger though and have no compunctions against carrying one.
 
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