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Jesse Heywood

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Have trouble getting bullets to feed in a new Springfield 911, .380 ACP. Bullets are 90 gr. Sierra JHP. Plunk is greater than .955. I have tried oal of .950, the ones shown are seated to .935. JAM.jpg

The only marks on blackened rounds were a single stripe the length of the case.
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Some 380 Autos don't feed all bullets well. I have experience with 3 different ones. The Kel Tec P3AT fed everything I gave it; not so with the Glock 42. I have no experience with the Springfield 911.
 
What are the cases?
Some 380 brass as been found that have thicker rims than Sami standards that get hung-up on extractors.
Mostly Euro brands like Perfecta/Fiocchi/etc.
Those rims look quite chewed up from catching.
This can be overcome by stoning a slight radius on the lower edge of the extractor.
If you don't feel confident doing this...don't
jmo,
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Are you dropping the slide with the slide release, or slingshoting? I've had 380's that will have the same hang up unless I drop the slide with the release. My 911 doesn't care, it will eat anything...actually think the chamber may be on the loose side
 
Seems like the extractor is hanging up on the case rim, not allowing the shell base to engage the breech face soon enough? How does factory ammo feed, JHPs and FPs?
Your pic of the two cartridges shows two very different cases. I don't load mixed head stamps, this has cured many of my reloading headaches.
 
I don't slingshot. Always let the slide do the work.
This doesn't happen until after the first round fired. Sometimes jambs hard enough to need the range rod to undo. I tried a magazine of FMJ, it jambed on each round after the first.
 
I'd check for a burr on the extractor, the largest diameter of the loaded rounds and the chamber diameter. Also make sure the firing pin channel isnt gunked up, case could be hanging up on the firing pin if it's not returning properly
 
I don't slingshot. Always let the slide do the work.
This doesn't happen until after the first round fired. Sometimes jambs hard enough to need the range rod to undo. I tried a magazine of FMJ, it jambed on each round after the first.

Are you just using handloads? Does the gun jam with factory ammunition?

If it jams with just handloads, it could be that the load is a little too light and the slide isn't going back far enough. Also, even without a light load, some powders with their different pressure curve don't work well with certain bullets in semi autos.

The comment above on FMJs is consistent with my experience. I've never had any of the 4 different (I remembered an additional one I'd shot) 380 Autos I've shot jam with FMJs but, though I'm equipped to handload for that cartridge, I've only shot them with factory ammo.
 
As Grumulkin states above. Try a box of Factory JHP and a box of FMJ. If those work, then reevaluate your reloading. Is your taper crimp enough?
If they do not work contact SA.

Are you cambering a round then topping of the magazine? Sometime mags are tight when new. Try loading one less round in the mag and let the slide slingshot forward to chamber.
 
My .380 S&W Bodyguard will not chamber Win. white box unless I sling shot it. They are a flat nose FMJ. If I hit the slide release they will jam every time, sling shot the slide and they function 100%.
 
Sir,
if a box of factory ammo doesn't run in it, the most likely answer is that you are assuming that because it's a small (and small caliber) handgun that it isn't important to GRIP it. Make absolutely sure you aren't limp-wristing it. The smaller the slide, the more any movement will have a negative effect on reliability.
A lot of women buy little .380s, and come back saying their gun doesn't work, but when we teach them how to master their grip, the little .380s always run.
BTW- Springfield Armory's 911 is a great choice!
 
new Springfield ... I tried a magazine of FMJ, it jambed on each round after the first.
Was FMJ rounds factory? I usually break-in a new pistol with a few boxes of factory ammunition and to see if I experience any issues with factory new rounds.

If reloads, I would try some factory FMJ to rule out reloaded rounds as cause. (If factory works fine, we can address the reload issue)

If factory, I would see if I could slide the case rim up the breechwall face to rule out extractor. If you can't slide factory case rim freely, you need to address that.

If extractor is not the issue, I would look at the magazine lips/springs but since they are new, I would call Springfield customer service.
 
Had a 22 do same. Polished the entrance, polish reliefed all enges with oil and bright boy. Works fine now and has for 20 years.
 
Had a 22 do same. Polished the entrance, polish reliefed all enges with oil and bright boy. Works fine now and has for 20 years.

Rounds in my Colt Combat Elite (45 ACP) hung up similar to yours. There was a burr around the firing pin hole. I took a very large drill, held the bit between my fingers, put the point in the center of the firing pin hole, and turned it to remove the ring. Since then it has been a usual practice of mine to run a finger over the breech face of a semi auto pistol, and as sketterfogger did, polish things. A delay in cartridge rise, due to a rough breech face, will cause a failure to feed, such as in the picture.
 
If I have a troublesome pistol that doesn’t want to feed well, the first thing I do (reloading wise) is find some factory ammo that works well in the gun. Then I copy that ammo dimensionally as close as possible. Once the rounds are going in well, then I adjust the power level until I get the empty’s coming out nicely. Its not that complicated, even I can do it.

Since your gun is new, the big question is whether it’s the gun or the rounds. Trying different factory ammo will tell you.

And lastly, what made you choose the Springfield over the Sig or Colt?
 
I would try a different magazine if I had one. This has been the most common problematic issue with any of my pistols with regards to misfeeding. As mentioned try US manufactured factory ammo and see if it works OK or not.
 
It seems like from pic maybe hanging up on extractor or breech face.

^ the “plunk” doesn’t tell the whole story, you need a case gauge.

When you plunk the barrel does not contact the base of the case, why competitive shooters always case gauge ammo, others don’t care about the time to clear the occasional malfunction.

Easy to see why you could “plunk” fine.
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Then get caught up entering the breech face.

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The top round in the photo looks like it doesn't have eough crimp. It appears to have too much "edge" showing, needs to be down snug against the bullet. Compare it to a factory round.
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