Revolver with Character

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Eddietruett

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24B74CFB-E828-46D1-A01B-6C180BA88999.jpeg 59FB457F-48F8-4337-ABEC-0B3EADCD7182.jpeg As a lot of you know, I have a huge fondness for 3” K Frames. Thought I’d share one of my favorites. It came from an estate sale along with a great story which I can only verify one part. Model 10 no dash and was special ordered in 1960. This is the only fact I can verify because Smith did not add 3” to the standard product line until the 80’s. Has a smooth semi target trigger. The story is a deputy who spent most of his time in the woods pursuing moonshiners special ordered the gun. It’s obviously been carried and the wear fits a carry gun as most of the wear is on the right side where it would be rubbing against a hand, arm or whatever it bumped into. It has honest wear or as I describe it, honest character. The story told at the estate sale according to the dealer that sold me the gun was this deputy did shoot several criminals during his career. Let me be clear. I bought the gun not the story. I have not lettered the gun because I really don’t care and a letter probably would say which hardware store it was shipped to. The action is real slick and I have a blast shooting it. It’s not a collectible but it’s not for sale either. Guns like this fascinate me and the unknown makes it even more fascinating. I do wish it could talk. I’m sure there’s some interesting information. Hell it might have been owned by a florist for all I know but it’s still fun to shoot and wonder where all it’s been before winding up with me.
 
This "pre" Model 10 was made in 1915-16. It barely has any bluing left (mostly just "patina") and was obviously shot a LOT before I got it. The cylinder is just a little bit loose, but it locks up pretty tight and doesn't spit lead. Its the only handgun I own that has noticeably worn rifling. It still shoots pretty much to POA, or at least as well as I do. I shoot a few light target loads through it every once in a while just for fun.

I wouldn't be surprised if it used to be a LEO sidearm at some point in its lifespan.

It might have some very interesting stories to tell.

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I called Palisades Police Department to verify this was one of their pistols, and it was. And these were carried by their Detectives. The butt wear is what you would expect in a pistol carried in a holster. The grip has been smoothed against the body, and the outer butt takes more wear. I assume the Detectives were mostly right handers as one side is more worn than the other.


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I've owned several guns with "character" over the years, but the only one I have now is a Model 10-5 that I picked up a couple of months ago. I haven't even shot it now that I think of it, but it was mechanically sound, inexpensive, and I at the time, didn't have a Model 10. How silly of me.

When I got it it had the original Magna grips on it, but they were WORN. The checkering on the right side especially was pretty much smooth. The blue, especially across the S&W logo was worn white, no doubt from a holster strap. I suspect it rode many a mile on someone's hip.

I put the grips up for safekeeping, and added a set of Pachmayr Presentations I had in the junk drawer. I think it looks "just right."

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Howdy

So who says a florist wouldn't own a 38? Maybe his shop was in a bad part of town.

By the way, I love the Colt from the Palisades Interstate Parkway Police. I grew up quite near there. The Palisades are a line of cliffs in New Jersey along the western edge of the Hudson River, facing New York City. As an aside, the Burr Hamilton duel took place in Weehawken along the Palisades. There is a park there now commemorating the event.

Back to the subject at hand, I too love a revolver with a bit of character. This K-22 shipped to the Providence RI Board of Public Safety in 1932. Roy Jinks told me he thought the Providence Police Department was probably using it on their pistol team. I have several K-22s, but this one is my favorite. It is the most accurate of the bunch.

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Hardly a spec of blue left on this Triple Lock and the grips are almost worn smooth. I got it for a song because of the condition, none of the other collectors was interested. Shoots as well as it did when it left the factory in 1907.

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Great looking firearm! Great story too. I feel the same way about "old stuff"...ohh the stories that could be told!

Thanks for sharing and allowing me to take a trip back in time with that gun and its previous owner.
 
That 3" K-Frame has what I prefer to call a "pugnacious look." Glad you got ahold of it.

Bob Wright

Is the word "ahold", or "aholt?" Hear it both ways.
 
I have your gun's kid sister,,,
A 3" Model 36 that I picked up at The Evil Pawn Shop.

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When I bought her ($250) she was scratched up badly,,,
It looked like she was dropped onto concrete.

This was taken after I did a bit of hand buffing,,,
And a few applications of cold blue.

She was obviously "rode hard and put up wet",,,
So I named her Libby, after an old west prostitute.

Shoots to point of aim with 158 grain LSWC rounds,,,
She lives within hand reach near my recliner.

Aarond

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I hate to rain on your parade but without a letter, you just can't say anything for a fact. It could have been sent to the factory in the 80's and rebarreled when the 3" guns came out. That was long enough ago that the ensuing use and wear would disguise any disparity of wear between the barrel and frame. Maybe it was even factory reblued at that time. The smooth semi-target trigger is also an oddity for the period of it's original production.

I'd still letter it. If you're right then that's a find and the letter will add value. If not, who cares? Even if it was returned for a rebarrel and reblue in the 80's it might be an interesting story and a letter might confirm the Law Enforcement connection in the shipping information. They used to do anything for LE. I'm a big proponent of people building revolvers that meet their needs. People who actually use guns do that without consideration for "collector value" down the road.

Or just enjoy it for what it is .... without the speculation.
 
There are some great guns in this thread, and I really like the OP's 3" 10. But what really caught my eye is how neat the police markings are on the Colt Detective Special shown by @Slamfire in post #7. Those are probably the most aesthetic police markings I have seen. Does anyone have any idea who did those markings? Were they done at the factory as part of a police order? Or were they done afterwards? Something about the font does not seem factory to me, but I have no real knowledge on that subject. Regardless, whoever marked that revolver cared about doing a good job, and it shows.
 
I hate to rain on your parade but without a letter, you just can't say anything for a fact. It could have been sent to the factory in the 80's and rebarreled when the 3" guns came out. That was long enough ago that the ensuing use and wear would disguise any disparity of wear between the barrel and frame. Maybe it was even factory reblued at that time. The smooth semi-target trigger is also an oddity for the period of it's original production.

I'd still letter it. If you're right then that's a find and the letter will add value. If not, who cares? Even if it was returned for a rebarrel and reblue in the 80's it might be an interesting story and a letter might confirm the Law Enforcement connection in the shipping information. They used to do anything for LE. I'm a big proponent of people building revolvers that meet their needs. People who actually use guns do that without consideration for "collector value" down the road.

Or just enjoy it for what it is .... without the speculation.

There's always somebody that tries to find a turd in an ice cream cone! I wasn't stating anything as a fact except the gun was shipped in 1960 and yes it could have been rebarreled, but with the low popularity of the 3" guns back in that day, I highly doubt it. But as my post states, "I really don't care!" I love the gun for what it is and it is obvious to me anyway it was a LEO carried gun based on the wear pattern, but maybe not. It does not matter. I am not going to spend $100 to try and find out any more information on the gun because as I stated I really don't care who it belonged to, it does have character which was the purpose of my post and to see other members post their guns that had some character. Also, a letter is not 100% correct every time and in this case, the only important thing about this gun is I own it and love it's character. If the rumors I was told are true, I guess that would help, but there is no way to track the rumors so I will just enjoy it as it is and let the rumors float around as a possibility. If I found out it was owned by a little old school teacher and the wear was caused by it being carried around in her little sewing kit, it would not change my feelings one bit.
 
Eddietruett

The one thing I like about your Model 10 is how nicely proportioned that 3" barrel is with those square butt grips. Bet it handles and balances perfectly too!
 
Eddietruett

The one thing I like about your Model 10 is how nicely proportioned that 3" barrel is with those square butt grips. Bet it handles and balances perfectly too!

You are correct. I started out with the 3" K Frames just because everyone was going crazy trying to find a 3" Model 66 and the prices were going out of the roof. After shooting the 66 a few times, I realized just how perfect the 3" Barrel is. It does balance almost perfect at least to me and another great thing is they have a full length ejector rod that will kick the cases completely out and you don't have to have it pointing at the sky like a 2" or 2.5" when you are in a hurry. I tend to like the fixed sight versions like the 10,64.65 and 13 best, but I still take my 3" 66 out to the range regularly. In the winter months I carry a 3" K frame, usually a 64 because the action is so darn smooth and the +P ammo will do basically everything the .357 magnum will do with a lot less recoil.
 
Howdy

So who says a florist wouldn't own a 38? Maybe his shop was in a bad part of town.

By the way, I love the Colt from the Palisades Interstate Parkway Police. I grew up quite near there. The Palisades are a line of cliffs in New Jersey along the western edge of the Hudson River, facing New York City. As an aside, the Burr Hamilton duel took place in Weehawken along the Palisades. There is a park there now commemorating the event.

Back to the subject at hand, I too love a revolver with a bit of character. This K-22 shipped to the Providence RI Board of Public Safety in 1932. Roy Jinks told me he thought the Providence Police Department was probably using it on their pistol team. I have several K-22s, but this one is my favorite. It is the most accurate of the bunch.

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Hardly a spec of blue left on this Triple Lock and the grips are almost worn smooth. I got it for a song because of the condition, none of the other collectors was interested. Shoots as well as it did when it left the factory in 1907.

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If for some crazy reason you ever get tired of either one of those, I know where they could find a nice home and get plenty of love.
 
There's always somebody that tries to find a turd in an ice cream cone! I wasn't stating anything as a fact except the gun was shipped in 1960 and yes it could have been rebarreled, but with the low popularity of the 3" guns back in that day, I highly doubt it. But as my post states, "I really don't care!" I love the gun for what it is and it is obvious to me anyway it was a LEO carried gun based on the wear pattern, but maybe not. It does not matter. I am not going to spend $100 to try and find out any more information on the gun because as I stated I really don't care who it belonged to, it does have character which was the purpose of my post and to see other members post their guns that had some character. Also, a letter is not 100% correct every time and in this case, the only important thing about this gun is I own it and love it's character. If the rumors I was told are true, I guess that would help, but there is no way to track the rumors so I will just enjoy it as it is and let the rumors float around as a possibility. If I found out it was owned by a little old school teacher and the wear was caused by it being carried around in her little sewing kit, it would not change my feelings one bit.

No, you stated "fact".... "Model 10 no dash and was special ordered in 1960. This is the only fact I can verify because Smith did not add 3” to the standard product line until the 80’s." I'm just calling you on that huge assumption. If you "really don't care"...then why post that as "fact" when clearly it is not?

I certainly don't care, but you really seem too. You want to create your "special" piece without doing the work ("$100") to verify it. You seem to prefer conjecture.
 
No, you stated "fact".... "Model 10 no dash and was special ordered in 1960. This is the only fact I can verify because Smith did not add 3” to the standard product line until the 80’s." I'm just calling you on that huge assumption. If you "really don't care"...then why post that as "fact" when clearly it is not?

I certainly don't care, but you really seem too. You want to create your "special" piece without doing the work ("$100") to verify it. You seem to prefer conjecture.

I'm not going to get into a pissing contest with you over words or how I worded a sentence. It is a fact the gun was shipped in 1960. Based on 40 years of experience in collecting S&W, I will bet the house it is original and that is why I'm positive it was special ordered. But that is not important. I started this thread about my gun which to me is special because it has some character. I wanted others to enjoy it and post their guns that have some character as well and several have done so and I have enjoyed seeing theirs as well. I was not trying to "create a special piece" by assuming anything. I don't need a letter to verify anything because I know all I need to know. I have lettered many guns when the situation called for it and this certainly does not. It was already special when I bought it no matter if the barrel was originally 3" or not. Why that seemed important to you is beyond me. No one is nit picking any other gun or story that has been posted in this thread. If you post a picture of a gun with character like others have done I will enjoy it as well and won't care if it is original or not. Most of us like a good story and I love the one that came with my gun. Its probably BS and was told to sell the gun but I don't care. It was possible and I found it interesting and thought others would.
 
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