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Does anyone have the statistics for Virginia

LTC holders
Gun owners
Hunting licenses (all gun related hunting licenses)
Number of guns in the state
how many guns purchased last year?
How much ammo was purchased last year
 
Texasgrillchef said:
Does anyone have the statistics for Virginia

LTC holders
Gun owners
Hunting licenses (all gun related hunting licenses)
Number of guns in the state
how many guns purchased last year?
How much ammo was purchased last year
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Fortunately, the only categories on that list that are available with any degree of accuracy is the first and third.
 
Texasgrillchef said:
Does anyone have the statistics for Virginia

LTC holders
Gun owners
Hunting licenses (all gun related hunting licenses)
Number of guns in the state
how many guns purchased last year?
How much ammo was purchased last year
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The only reliable data is going to be for the bolded items since the state will have issued those. None of the other information will be reliable even if it is available.

10 to 15% of VA residents have carry permits. With a population of 8,626,207 that makes about 800,000 to 1,200,000 carry permits.

832,199 hunting licenses were sold in 2019
 
Texasgrillchef said:
Does anyone have the statistics for Virginia

LTC holders
Gun owners
Hunting licenses (all gun related hunting licenses)
Number of guns in the state
how many guns purchased last year?
How much ammo was purchased last year
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The numbers in each of these categories are quite high. I don't know if it's worthwhile to pursue the particulars.
FAS1 said:
No, but I can tell you the percentage of people who voted (or didn't vote :fire:) in the last election that started all this mess.
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One feature of Virginia state elections is that they take place in off-off years (odd numbered years). This tends to depress turnout. Traditionally, this was thought to favor Republicans, but that's probably not true any more. Now, it favors activists of whatever stripe, and in recent years there have been more activists on the Left than on the Right. This may change because of the gun issue.
 
hso said:
The only reliable data is going to be for the bolded items since the state will have issued those. None of the other information will be reliable even if it is available.

10 to 15% of VA residents have carry permits. With a population of 8,626,207 that makes about 800,000 to 1,200,000 carry permits.

832,199 hunting licenses were sold in 2019
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Well i figured that would be the case.
With a wide variety of estimates.

I am sure there is an exact figure for valid LTC's somewhere. State just might not release the exact figure like they do with hunting licenses. i would have thought that number was higher for Virginia, but i guess not.

Texas has a higher percentage though the last time i saw the figures. But who knows my memory has been a little swiss cheese like lately so i could be wrong. lol

The gun and ammo sales i didnt know if Virginia had a law about reporting total sales. Some states do, i know not all states require that.

I saw a statistic once, i dont know how accurate it was, i dont know if it was for one particular state or for the entire nation. I am sure it varies from state to state as well as for those states that have constitutional carry. But the statistic said that LTC holder represented about only 25% of the total gun owning population.

If that were true and based on your statistics that would mean their would be about 3.2 million to maybe 4 million gun owners in Virginia. Assuming their statistic is valid at 25%
 
AlexanderA said:
The numbers in each of these categories are quite high. I don't know if it's worthwhile to pursue the particulars.

One feature of Virginia state elections is that they take place in off-off years (odd numbered years). This tends to depress turnout. Traditionally, this was thought to favor Republicans, but that's probably not true any more. Now, it favors activists of whatever stripe, and in recent years there have been more activists on the Left than on the Right. This may change because of the gun issue.
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Thats a whole nother topic for debate and a little off topic from
my original post. But i agree, offset years mayno longer be to our advantage.
 
Texasgrillchef said:
Does anyone have the statistics for Virginia

LTC holders
Gun owners
Hunting licenses (all gun related hunting licenses)
Number of guns in the state
how many guns purchased last year?
How much ammo was purchased last year
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Those are all part of the new, onerous, legislation proposed in the current Session.
By way of registering owners, registering their Arms, and regulating their ammunition purchases.

I will contend that all but 1 & 3 are not the State's business to know or regulate.
 
CapnMac said:
Abstractly, I entirely agree; practically, as they are the issuers . . .
Will assume that any given State knows how many Driver's Licenses are issues, too.
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My point was that carry "permits", as we know them, shouldn't exist at all. They shouldn't be the "issuer".
 
Texasgrillchef said:
Texas has
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With a population of 29,400,000 and 1,200,746 that's 1,201,000 permits per 29,400,000 population...0.041 or 4% for Texas. Tennessee has a population of 6,770,000 and 595,000 permit holders for 0.08 or 8%. VA has a population of 8,517,685 and 430,000 permit holders. That's 0.050 or 5%. Higher than TX(5%) and lower than TN(8%).

Our side often overestimates numbers because we as individuals naturally associate with like-minded others and we don't check the facts. The chart below would lead us to think that TX has a higher rate of permit holders, but because the population is so large (kinda "Texas Sized") that's deceptive. When the rate is crunched out we find that there aren't as many from a percentage standpoint as we might have thought. The importance in that is we can develop a false sense of security thinking "Well, there are a lot of us so things won't get like ...", when what we need to focus on is how many of us out of the total population there are to gauge our influence socially and politically. If VA with a higher percentage of permit holders can be going through the current changes, why think TX with a lower percentage won't. A 2A activist friend in TX complains to me that Texans are so complacent about the 2A he struggles to get anyone to participate.

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Numbers of permit holders don't mean anything. In the chart above, states with low numbers of permit holders include both states in which permits are difficult to get (New Jersey) and states where permits are not needed (Alaska). Even in states where permits are available and easy to get, a lot of gun owners don't apply for them because they object to the whole idea in principle, or they feel no need to carry..
 
hso said:
I think they don't mean as much as people make of them, but it isn't reasonable to say they mean nothing.

The numbers are affected by permitless carry, open carry w/o permit, and the acceptance of carry. Gross numbers are far less valuable than rates.
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You maybe right about that. I think people make them out to be, because its the only reliable way of looking at the minimum numbwr of who has guns.

Very few of us want to register our guns, so it is extremly hard if not impossible to actually know how many people own guns, how many actually use them for something more then just something to look at.

I have a friend, he is a gun owner, but the gun he owns is one owned by his great grandfather in the early 1900's. For him its family keep sake. A heirloom, something he would never fire or use. I wonder how many americans are like that, not realizing that someday their family keep sake maybe taken from them or that they become a felon!
 
We have also seen that states like CT and CO have had nearly no compliance with restrictions they put in place that would only impact law-abiding gun owners so the numbers from government sources become skewed.
 
Trey Veston said:
When you look at total percentage of gun owners in a state, Texas isn't even in the top 15 states.

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It’s interesting to look at and then compare gun laws to number of owners. In some cases it matches with the laws. Sometimes it doesn’t always match. Crazy! Lol

Mo, has constitutional carry but a low percentage, WV has constitutional carry and high percentage of gun owners. Texas we have a higher percentage then MO, yet Mo and Oklahoma who have lower rates the. Texas both have constitutional carry and we don’t.

Higher percentage rates of gun ownership don’t always relate to more permissive gun laws.
 
AlexanderA said:
Numbers of permit holders don't mean anything. In the chart above, states with low numbers of permit holders include both states in which permits are difficult to get (New Jersey) and states where permits are not needed (Alaska). Even in states where permits are available and easy to get, a lot of gun owners don't apply for them because they object to the whole idea in principle, or they feel no need to carry..
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I agree. I don't have a permit. I grew up learning to fight because my older brother was an MMA fighter. Spending time with him meant I had to go to the gym with him.
Having the confidence that you can defend yourself is enough to make would be attackers rethink their decision most of the time.
I don't want my name in a data base for a suppressor, sbr, or concealed carry permit. If Virginia passes the laws that are being floated, those people will be there first ones raided.
Thank God Oklahoma joined the ranks of right to carry states.
 
JERRY said:
that might have a whole lot to do with recent influx of non-Texas born voters, expect election to start reflecting that as well.
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Or... Texas really isn't all it's cracked up to be... I believe the term is "All hat and no cattle..." I think I searched for the actual numbers since some Texan was bragging about how conservative and gun-totin' Texans are. They really aren't compared to Idaho, Montana, Wyoming, and Alaska are where statistically more gun owners live. Texas may have a reputation, but reality is different. Texas is turning purple and is expected to be a blue state within a decade or so, thanks to massive immigration of Californians and illegals.

I really have no ill will towards Texas or Texans, but having grown up in Idaho, I didn't take too kindly to someone saying Texas was the most conservative and gun-friendly state when it really isn't.
 
Trey Veston said:
Or... Texas really isn't all it's cracked up to be... I believe the term is "All hat and no cattle..." I think I searched for the actual numbers since some Texan was bragging about how conservative and gun-totin' Texans are. They really aren't compared to Idaho, Montana, Wyoming, and Alaska are where statistically more gun owners live. Texas may have a reputation, but reality is different. Texas is turning purple and is expected to be a blue state within a decade or so, thanks to massive immigration of Californians and illegals.

I really have no ill will towards Texas or Texans, but having grown up in Idaho, I didn't take too kindly to someone saying Texas was the most conservative and gun-friendly state when it really isn't.
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yeah, my post eluded to that. Austin and Houston are prime examples.
 
JERRY said:
yeah, my post eluded to that. Austin and Houston are prime examples.
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Yep. I live in Washington on the border of Idaho. I plan to move to Idaho within a few years. But Boise has experienced a massive influx of Californians the past decade or so and it is making things worse, as such happens when liberals move en masse to traditionally conservative areas.

The advantage we have is that up North, we get a particularly nasty winter every so often that sends the snowflakes back to California, or to Texas...
 
Trey Veston said:
Yep. I live in Washington on the border of Idaho. I plan to move to Idaho within a few years. But Boise has experienced a massive influx of Californians the past decade or so and it is making things worse, as such happens when liberals move en masse to traditionally conservative areas.

The advantage we have is that up North, we get a particularly nasty winter every so often that sends the snowflakes back to California, or to Texas...
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don't be fooled like all the other states have been. they will vote in Democrat in their primary resident state of Idaho then winter back in southern California to see the grandkids.
 
Texas is the most conservative of the big states. We have open carry and Florida doesn't. You can carry a gun in your car in Texas without a license. The leg passed numerous pro-2A laws in the last session. We did drop the ball on Constitutional Carry but expect to get it next time.
 
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