Range Report, new Beretta Tomcat

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So, some of you may have read my post in this same forum on my silly launching of the safety plunger & spring on a spanky new, just out of the box Beretta Tomcat (3032) .32 ACP Inox.
Having it back in working order, took it out today for its inaugural session.
It is certainly a well-made little gun but may not be a pocket rocket for my pocket ... or it may yet be, more firing line time needed for a definitive call.
In short, shoots accurately enough, recoil is non-problematic, ate up a couple brands of 73-grain ball, etc.
However, I soon learned I can practically freeze the gun up if insert my trigger finger too far. Bottom line: I can (and a few times did) essentially trap the trigger when it's in single-action. And it's in single-action most of the firing time, of course, as only the first round is DA.
The answer, obviously enough, is use the pad of the finger, not the joint ... but will a guy remember to do that in a dung has hit the fan situation?
Also, fooling around with grips as a "solution," I let myself get bit once. Naturally, I applied a Band-Aid and carried on.
Tad bummed. Have had a Beretta 21A (.22LR Bobcat) for quite a while and run it well enough and think it's a gas and a giggle. This one, based on only the first time out, less so perhaps.
Will give her some more trips. No use making hasty calls.
And here's one for the mental notebook: Rubbing alcohol does a quicker job of getting blood off that grayish alloy finish than does G96 or Ballistol. No charge for that one, boys. My pain is your gain.;)
Peace out; have a good Saturday.
 
Buy a case of ammo. And keep shooting it. Have bandaids handy. Either a Pavlovian reflex will finally kick in and you’ll stop getting your finger in too deep or, the offending flesh will get worn away until it’s not an issue. :)

But, Yeah. That’s a downside of pivoting trigger mini guns. Sometimes the body size, hand size, grip angle etc just don’t work together.

I have dainty little girl hands so, I rarely have that problem.

A SA gun with solid trigger may be the answer.

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Yep, ball ammo isn't terrilby expensive, so I'll give this gun a fair try.
 
Don't know, guys, have shot the Sig 238 and 938 and liked 'em, and I do like those old-school Berettas, but I've always been a little leery about an SA as a pocket gun. Maybe I'm overcautious?
 
Don't know, guys, have shot the Sig 238 and 938 and liked 'em, and I do like those old-school Berettas, but I've always been a little leery about an SA as a pocket gun. Maybe I'm overcautious?
It's a matter of what you are comfortable with. For most I have a specific pocket holster that covers trigger and safety and the holster and gun are the only things in that pocket. I do have a few that I trust enough to carry without a holster but they have very positive safeties and most also have multiple safeties.

When I decide to carry some new pocket pistol (it's been awhile) I always carry it as the BUG for a week or so unloaded just to make sure that the safety does not get switched to the "Fire" position. Only then do I carry it loaded.
 
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But, Yeah. That’s a downside of pivoting trigger mini guns. Sometimes the body size, hand size, grip angle etc just don’t work together.

I have dainty little girl hands so, I rarely have that problem.

A SA gun with solid trigger may be the answer.

Me too though I wouldn't consider mine dainty; sort of relatively small compared to most people. Guns like the SIG P238 or Colt Mustang work great for me...just the right size.

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Okay maybe not this small but I think you get the idea!
 
Don't know, guys, have shot the Sig 238 and 938 and liked 'em, and I do like those old-school Berettas, but I've always been a little leery about an SA as a pocket gun. Maybe I'm overcautious?
The 238 and 938 manual safety actually lifts the hammer hook off of the sear when on safe providing increased safety over some single action designs. They both also feature a firing pin block/drop safety that requires the trigger be pulled fully to the rear to unblock the FP allowing the gun to fire. P238s and P938s are as safe as any modern gun, and safer than many!
 
The 238 and 938 manual safety actually lifts the hammer hook off of the sear when on safe providing increased safety over some single action designs. They both also feature a firing pin block/drop safety that requires the trigger be pulled fully to the rear to unblock the FP allowing the gun to fire. P238s and P938s are as safe as any modern gun, and safer than many!

Thank you. I take it the engagement is pretty firm, crisp?
I'd shot a couple (friends at the club owned 'em) a while back and was favorably impressed.
 
Anyone here have any experience with the North American Arms Guardian in 32 ACP?
 
Thank you. I take it the engagement is pretty firm, crisp?
I'd shot a couple (friends at the club owned 'em) a while back and was favorably impressed.
My P938's manual safety is very positive... you have to knowingly push to take it off safety and it offers a convincing "click" when applied or taken off safe. With that said, the best protection carrying a small pistol like this is a well-fitting holster that completely covers the trigger and protects the safety lever. I have carried it daily, safely, for a few years.

I use an alabamaholster.com front pocket holster but there are plenty of holsters that fit the bill.
 
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My P938's manual safety is very positive... you have to knowingly push to take it off safety and it offers a convincing "click" when applied or taken off safe.

Sounds like the same as the safety on my P238; very positive (even a bit stiff but in a good way), and with a very audible click when used.
 
Always wanted a Tomcat but got a smoking deal on a Sig 230. That filled the niche for me.

If I could find a good deal on a Sig 230 or 232, that would be the end of my pocket gun search, I think. Those things were the best execution of that design ever, IMO.
 
If I could find a good deal on a Sig 230 or 232, that would be the end of my pocket gun search, I think. Those things were the best execution of that design ever, IMO.

while I consider them "big" for pocket carry, unless you have really big pockets, my only gripe is the recoil they give the shooter for the round they fire is disproportionate. I will say they have the sexiest lines of all the 380s hands down.
 
I like my Sig P230. Of the various Walther PP inspired pistols I own, it's the best looking and most modern. It points nicely and isn't too heavy.

It's a good shooter and not to be sneezed at for SD, but it's not a pocket pistol. The PP was designed to be a service pistol carried in a belt holster.

By chance I happened to see a P232 at the LGS yesterday. As far as I know it's the same pistol with some cosmetic changes. It was purty.

 
Ive carried the Tomcat, P230, Mustang and P238. The P230 is still my IWB choice in jacket weather, but my job requires pocket or ankle carry most of the time. The Tomcat was fine, but the frame cracked eventually , and though most DA/SA pistols dont bother me, the transition in the Tomcat was pretty distracting.

For me, the P238 and Mustang are just about perfect. I carry cocked and locked no problem. The safety is one of the most positive types ever made and Ive practiced drawing it to the point of second nature. The magazines drop free and the gun and mags are very slim.

Generally speaking, the .380s are more reliable than the .32s too- and the Mustang/238 are about the only locked breech guns in this class as well, which makes them even more reliable and less ammo sensitive.

All these guns can give good concealed service, but if I had to pick one it would be the P238.
 
Gents, you are sending me in the direction of the P238.
May end up using that Tomcat as a trade-in gun.
 
Having duly deliberated and having fondled several candidates for a second straight day, the winner was ...
Sig P365
Nope, not the lovely piece of well-executed traditionalist steel that the P938 is, but it's still one heck of a gun, in my estimation.
If I do find it a tad large for pocket carry, still have the Ruger LCP, not to mention the little Beretta 21 and a SW 642.
 
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