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I'm old enough to remember when almost every LEO had a blue steel revolver on his belt.

There were Colts and there were Smiths--no Rugers yet.

Police officers in our area usually purchased their guns in local shops. Many preferred Goodmans for Guns in downtown St. Louis.

Officers who carried Colts could recommend favorite pistol-smiths. It was well known that Colt revolvers would go out of time, and that fixing them on a regular basis was standard practice.

I would go out to my favorite store after supper and join in the palaver with others doing the same thing along the handgun counter. Not infrequently, a man or two in blue would be among them.

Clockwise or counterclockwise? Which had the best DA pull? What is a long action Smith? Walking encyclopedias in that pre internet age.

i decided upon a four inch K-frame with adjustable sights, but there were none to be had. War production and the needs of the SAC Air Police took priority. I settled for a Smith & Wesson Model 39 from Goodmans.

Then the Ruger Security Six showed up. I liked it, but I did not need one.

Then the Colt DA product line went tango U, presumably, like my grandfather's clock, never to go again.

With the advent of internet came seemingly naive questions from folks asking about the possibility of new Pythons.

Had someone predicted in 2010 that Colt would re-enter the DA revolver market with new models that were as smooth and accurate as the old, far more durable in terms of the need for periodic servicing, and reasonably priced, I would have questioned their sanity.

And then a redesigned Detective Special came out.

In December, the new Python was announced. "We'll never see real ones." "They will be junk". It's an insult to the legend". So crowed the peanut gallery.

Well--I would have been wrong.

And glad of it.

Whodathunkit!
 
old school is good school. for most civilian, and even some official, uses a decent revolver will do the job, even quite well. from my very humble perch, when you have only 5-6 shots you must learn to make them count. spray and pray over marksmanship is a sad consequence of semiauto pistols, as some big city police street shooting results have demonstrated.

i received some excellent and intensive usg revolver training in the early 1980s: with practice in combat shooting and speedloader reloads, a 38sp double action revolver can be an idiot proof, highly effective, and very sufficient sidearm (as always, emphasis on side) until, as with any handgun, you can lay hands on a long gun or get off the x.

i truly mean no offense to any leo, and i appreciate the dangers that a leo faces, but i miss the policing of the revolver, pre semiauto pistol, pretactical, two men to a squad car, era. perhaps the leo community misses two men to a squad car too.

this is my humble experience and old thinking, ymmv.
 
when you have only 5-6 shots you must learn to make them count. spray and pray over marksmanship is a sad consequence of semiauto pistols, as some big city police street sho
I hate to disagree, but I do.

The defender must shoot rapidly and with combat accuracy, until the threat is stopped, if he or she possibly can, regardless of the weapon.

When I was looking at a Smith 686+ some years ago, I commented that because of the seven shot cylinder, the flutes looked funny to me.

The man behind the counter was a former St. Louis City police officer from revolver days.

He replied "You want that additional shot--you really cannot have too many".

I bought the gun.

I do agree with your assessment of the importance of two officers per car.
 
i cannot disagree with you kleanbore: more rounds, faster reloads are always better in a fight. i never took to centerfire semiauto pistols, based on a lousy army experience with a clapped out m1911 45acp, “hurry up” and lots of general d.i. commotion during b.t. in 1972. i love rimfire semiauto pistols though. for my particular protection needs, based on my routines, locales, training, etc, i rely on centerfire revolvers. what worries me is more rounds trumping better marksmanship, but i’m not a cop on solo patrol who must seek out hobgoblins.

i also worry when i see wuhan flu gun newbies scarfing up semiauto polymer wonder nines. while shooting some ruger 22lr pistols at the indoor range last week i was between some. they should have started with one of mine, preferably the ruger bearcat. jeez where is a msgt or cpo when really you need one? cheers!
 
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what worries me is more rounds trumping better marksmanship, but i’m not a cop on solo patrol who must seek out hobgoblins.
To "seek out" just means that when an attacker breaks away, it's not over for the LEO, and more ammunition may well be needed.

Before that happens, however, the officer and the civilian have the same job--self defense.

Marksmanship? The defender should put every round into an area the size of the upper chest. One will not have the time to do any better than that.

There is no way of knowing how many will be needed. What is hit inside the body is what counts, and it's a matter of chance.

Some people can get four rounds into an attacker in a second and a half with a revolver, but most seem to do better with a semiauto.
 
Having 8 shot revolvers would have been quite handy for LEOs from back in the day. Why did it take so long for gun makers to realize this?
 
Having 8 shot revolvers would have been quite handy for LEOs from back in the day.Why did it take so long for gun makers to realize this?
I doubt that many LEOs would want to carry one all day.

The N-frame was never all that common among police officers who worked on foot.

The L-frame is the same size as an Official Police revolver but they started to come about near the sunset of the police revolver.

I really, really like the new Colts, but I do not expect to see them as primary carry pieces among law enforcement people.
 
I doubt that many LEOs would want to carry one all day.

The N-frame was never all that common among police officers who worked on foot.

The L-frame is the same size as an Official Police revolver but they started to come about near the sunset of the police revolver.

I really, really like the new Colts, but I do not expect to see them as primary carry pieces among law enforcement people.

My uncle carried a 4 inch 686 back in the 80s as a deputy. I don’t think the 627 UDR weighs much more and packs two additional rounds. I haven’t asked him but I would assume he would have traded a few ounces for two more shots.
 
I'm sure I'm at least as pleased as our OP is that Colt started producing quality revolvers again.

Not long ago, I found a stack of gun magazines (the kind you read) in a box in my garage, going back to the early 2000's that never made it to the recycling center ... wouldn't you know it, as I perused several old editions of American Handgunner, American Rifleman and Guns and Ammo, I noted several comments in the letters to the editor sections and some revolver-centered articles, all stated unequivocally that new revolvers would never, ever, come out of the Colt factory again ... Archived posts from several internet gun forums all said the same thing.

It's a great time to be a revolver fan.

On the subject of 8-shot cylinders, I've often thought that if semi-auto pistols were banned for everyone, I'd be comfortable packing a S&W 627 Pro (four inch barrel, of course) in the right holster ...

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I injured my right thumb in a fight with a stolen car suspect in roughly 2003 (Thats what I get for being a pro-active patrol sergeant :() After a couple of weeks therapy I still couldn’t “squeeze” my thumb in, but I could straighten and push with it.

I ordered a 4” 686+ and carried that on duty in a Tex Shoemaker 2” L-1 U.S. drop swivel for about 6 months until the thumb allowed me to use a slide stop, decocker and mag release again so I could return to my SIG P228. Our duty loads for .357 were Win 110 gr JHP rounds, so with 7 in the cylinder and 28 more in speed loaders on my belt I felt pretty well armed indeed.

I did get quite a few positive comments from older people I met, remarking about the throwback look of the revolver and holster... and I got a few others from young miscreants who complied rather quickly when “Damn, that’s a f&@#*€g magnum!” demanded their compliance. ;).

I still have the gun and the holster (It’s a bit dusty from 17 years in the closet!)

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In confident and competent hands a revolver is a fantastic defensive tool. Like any other firearm, it demands practice and patience to become the above.

Stay safe.
 
That's Coltwise and Smithwise. . .

Kudos to @jar
I have a Smith revolver that goes clockwise.

My Dad'd first duty revolver was a 6" K-38, off- duty was a Model 49. He then bought a 6" Trooper MKIII, then a 4" Python, and a 2.5" Python for off-duty. He sold those to me when his Dept., Saint Paul (MN) PD, were the first major PD to go to the Glock. He was instrumental in swinging the Chief towards the Glock (they were considering S&W autos) when Dad took him to the range with his 17, the second one to arrive in the Twin Cities. (The gun shop guy who sold him on it got the first) He was then issued (first issued gun for him) a 17, and bought his own 19 for off-duty. He then was issued a G22 when they switched to .40, kept his G19 for off-duty. The G22 was his issue gun when he retired.
 
I ordered a 4” 686+ and carried that on duty in a Tex Shoemaker 2” L-1 U.S. drop swivel for about 6 months until the thumb allowed me to use a slide stop, decocker and mag release again so I could return to my SIG P228
I carry a revolver on occasions when pressure on a bone spur on my elbow has made racking a slide too difficult.
 
My uncle carried a 4 inch 686 back in the 80s as a deputy. I don’t think the 627 UDR weighs much more and packs two additional rounds. I haven’t asked him but I would assume he would have traded a few ounces for two more shots.
In my limited experience shooting with and interacting with leo, most are not gun people.

They need a gun like a contractor needs a hammer.

And if they have to carry it all day, lighter the better.

Now, you and I know that a little extra weight and more capacity can make for a more fun or effective shooting experience.
 
In my limited experience shooting with and interacting with leo, most are not gun people.

They need a gun like a contractor needs a hammer.

And if they have to carry it all day, lighter the better.

Now, you and I know that a little extra weight and more capacity can make for a more fun or effective shooting experience.
True for most in my experience, also.
 
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