How does the CZ 75 stack up in quality and reliability with Glock 17 or Beretta 92?

As far as I’m concerned, CZ is right up there with Glock and Beretta. I don’t mess with CZ’s for the same reason that I don’t mess with Berettas. I don’t like the triggers. Still, every sample I’ve shot never exhibited a problem and they were at least as accurate as any Glock or Beretta. The guys that I know that like them, swear by them.

Reliability- they are all pretty much a wash with a slight edge going to the Beretta simply because of the action and straight in feeding as well as nothing for a spent case to really get hung up with on its way out.

Durability- Glock by a long shot. The G17 has simply proven itself to be one of the most durable firearms ever made. It is also the simplest. Beretta needs locking block replacements, CZ’s need slide stop replacements etc. The G17 needs a recoil spring now and the. Now all of those are maintenance items and inexpensive but the G17 runs away with the durability trophy.

Quality - They are all quality pistols. It’s really the finishing where they differ. CZs look great on the outside but can look like a hungover dwarf used a war hammer and a chisel to finish them inside. Beretta’s are generally beautiful weapons inside and out. Glock probably has had the best overall quality control over the years. They have all been through some missteps though.

Honestly if this is just a simple I want to buy a gun just to have a weapon then pick one and be happy as they are all likely to be fantastic firearms.

TheProf said:

I was going to start a 9mm vs .45 thread.)

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My answer to 9mm or .45 is Yes.

I have a Glock 17. My Son has a Beretta 92 that I have shot a lot. I have more than a few CZ's. Short answer is I prefer the CZ 75b and the entire CZ line to Glock or Beretta. The Glock trigger is not made for great accuracy. The Glock is reliable and tough. The 92 Beretta is a fine gun. It would be my second choice for carry. It is big and the grip is too large for some. It's more accurate than the Glock. The CZ 75 just outshines both in my opinion. I like the trigger's on the CZ 75 series guns and they point just perfectly for me. My next malfunction with a CZ will be my first. All this is personal preference of course. A self defense gun IS personal. What I like may not be what you like. All the gun's named are full size service weapons, certainly not for everyone.

Have a Glock 17, no Beretta M92 (but have owned other Berettas and have used a Taurus PT92), and a couple of CZs. The quality of all three is first rate in terms of how well they're built, overall fit and finish, and how reliable they are. Best fit for me ergonomically speaking are the CZs; both my P01 and P07 feel very comfortable and perfectly suited for my smaller size hands. The Glock and the Beretta not quite as well with their grip frames feeling wider and not as user friendly to me as the CZ. Same with the triggers: the CZs are more functional and smoother in DA and SA mode than the triggers on the G17 and M92.

I love CZs and Berettas (Not as much as Shipwreck though), and Glocks as well.

I love Glocks because they just work. They are simple and reliable and a good tool. I love CZs and Berettas because they also work for me, they fit a lot better than the Glock, and they look a lot better.

I'd rank the CZ just below the Glock and Beretta simply because of the firing pin retaining pin. I don't like the roll pin design and it is the weak link in my opinion. It is a cheap and easy fix and usually takes a while for it to break, but it is a matter of when and not if. Of course this does not apply to the Shadow 2, but at double the cost of a 75B or SP-01, I'd be really upset if it had that same problem.

That being said, my preference in pistols is Beretta and CZ constantly fighting for top dog, then Glock is third.

As has been mentioned, each has its advantages. I do not agree that the Glock trigger isn’t made for accuracy. Although the trigger may affect your ability to shoot a gun accurately, it has nothing to do with the inherent accuracy of any firearm. Well, most anyway.

I like the Glock because it’s tough and built for abuse. The trigger you can get used to or modify it to your taste very easily and without compromising the reliability. I can hit clay pigeons at 25 yards pretty easily. The Glock also presents a profile and operation that is easy to manipulate during high stress situations. A slide that you can get a good grip on. Easy controls. Etc. You draw and it’s ready to go.

With the beretta, I never could get used to that long trigger pull on the first shot and it’s usually the first shot that’s gonna matter the most. I also question the durability in comparison to the Glock. Ever google “useful life of 92F frame?” Of course, berettas exhibit a smoothness that few can equal. That ejection port makes concerns of ejections problems moot. I’ve also never known a beretta to have a feeding problem. I know guys in law enforcement that describe it as a fine weapon.

Most of my experience with the CZs has been with the steel guns, but they are representative of all models that I’m aware of. Again, I couldn’t reach, much less get used to, getting that first round off with that trigger. I also find it difficult to manipulate during drills. With the inverted rail system they use, the exposed portion of the slide is short and difficult to rack for me when my hands are sweaty or I’m wearing gloves and I’m in a hurry. On the plus side, they just plain work. They have a fan base and it is warranted.

The 92 is a fair comparison. The CZ is better in every way. 92's can be tuned up to be quite nice, but so,can the CZ. And there are tuned up Shadow 2 and TSO versions of the CZ that just plain rule all.

Glock is apples to oranges though. Quality is a point of view with them. I think they're great. The CZ is nearly as reliable as the Glock though.

......oh, and .40.

They are all guns I’d love to have over a pointy stick or a tire iron in any situation where I had to have a reliable handgun to defend my life and loves.

I’m a Glock guy by choice. I refuse to say it is either the best or the most reliable of the three, it is simply my preferred flavor.

my second choice would go the the CZ only because I like the safety n the CZ more than the safety on the Beretta, which by default would be my number 3.

All are excellent guns.

I would put CZ and Beretta on a significantly higher plane than Glock for pretty much all aspects of design, fabrication and functionality.

Guns are like wives, it only matters what YOU choose. But it would be nice if I had as many wives as I did guns.

The OP asked about quality and reliability, not which one you prefer. We all know that we’ll get about a 33.3/33.3/33.3 breakdown of what people prefer. When it comes to quality and reliability they are all top notch. I give the slight edge to Glock only because it’s a simpler design which to me means fewer opportunities for problems. However I like everyone else have zero data to back this up

Otto said:

Guns are like wives, it only matters what YOU choose. But it would be nice if I had as many wives as I did guns.

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Why in the world would you want that? 1 is plenty

cslinger said:

My answer to 9mm or .45 is Yes.

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And 40 and 10 and 357 and 44 magnum...yes yes yes!

I had a couple of CZ 75's back when they were cheap. The triggers were bad and neither of mine were reliable until every spring in them was replaced, including the magazines. But in spite of the heavy trigger they were more accurate than average.

The grip does not fit my hand at all. The top of the beavertail curves down and digs into the web between my thumb and trigger finger and the slide inside the frame makes for a small slide that is hard to grip. Both of mine had the polycoat finish which I always thought was cheesy. The internal parts are poorly finished. Kind'a looks like someone gave some files to a 6th grade shop class and told them to finish them.

When it comes to build quality they aren't in the same league as a Beretta or the traditional metal frame Sigs. But when they were 1/2 the price as Beretta were not a bad option. Now the prices are virtually the same, no way I'd choose a CZ over Beretta.

Glock is a different animal. Purely functional like a hammer with zero aesthetics. If I were interested in the shooting sports a CZ after being worked over by a gunsmith would be a good choice. I'd not seriously consider one for personal protection. I replaced my CZ's with Glocks and have been a happy camper ever since.

Otto said:

Guns are like wives, it only matters what YOU choose. But it would be nice if I had as many wives as I did guns.

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You're fearless man. I salute you.

In my opinion all three are pretty equal in quality so it is more about what fits you best and is the most comfortable in your hand. I have a very long hand and the Beretta fits me best. I find the Glocks hardest to get comfortable with and what I am least proficient at shooting.

TheProf said:

How does the CZ 75 stack up in quality and reliability with Glock 17 or Beretta 92?

... compare quality and reliability... Rank them in order. And give a brief explanation.

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As to reliability, my Gen2 Glock 17 used for USPSA matches, I can verify shooting over 120,000 rounds without parts breakage other than consumable replacements (Springs, mag follower, etc.).

And after 120,000 round count, I was worried about worn rifling because I primarily shot brass jacketed Montana Gold bullets so I sold it to another match shooter who tested the Glock 17 for accuracy and happily continued shooting USPSA matches.

Consequently, I switched to 40S&W as my match caliber and bought two Glock 22s to continue shooting USPSA and using factory, 40-9mm conversion and 40S&W aftermarket barrels, shot the heck out of them (No, I did not care to keep round count as I "assumed" they were reliable enough) without any parts breakage, just consumable springs, mag follower, etc. replacements.

So I guess, Glocks are indeed reliable.

Glocks are the Toyota of the gun world. Most of them lack character and are not flashy or high-performance, but they work, and are supremely reliable.

As an easy to use and reliable appliance, my nod goes to Glock. The Beretta 92 and CZ 75 series of pistols are more exciting and engaging for enthusiasts and can be just as reliable, but over a 1,000-each sample size, I would bet the thousand Glocks have fewer operational hangups over a 50,000 round lifespan.

BTW, I do not currently own any Glocks as they don't excite me, but I wouldn't be opposed to owning or carrying one. After all, they just work.

.455_Hunter said:

I would put CZ and Beretta on a significantly higher plane than Glock for pretty much all aspects of design, fabrication and functionality.

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I agree....sort of. CZ's and Berettas...

- Have a higher number of parts
- Have a higher cost to build
- Have a higher number of ounces to tote around all day
- Have those higher weight trigger pulls in double action
- Have a higher number of different trigger pulls to learn (2 versus 1)

Doesn't mean I don't like them, or think they are inferior...but they are totally different guns from the Glock.

TonyAngel said:

Although the trigger may affect your ability to shoot a gun accurately, it has nothing to do with the inherent accuracy of any firearm.

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Very true. The trigger pull on any firearm has nothing to do with its intrinsic accuracy but may have everything to do with how well in terms of accuracy an individual shooter can do.

I feel my CZ 75 is superior to my G17 and G19 in every way except one , the Glock can be taken apart and repaired if needed way easier then a CZ , outside of the Glocks simplicity the CZ is a sweet handgun