My next purchase - Beretta or CZ?

Which one do I buy?

  • Beretta 92G

    Votes: 43 38.7%
  • CZ P-09

    Votes: 68 61.3%

  • Total voters
    111
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malakili

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Hello, all. I'm trying to decide on my next "just one more" handgun, and have it narrowed down to two choices. I want something optimized for home defense, but I'll probably be carrying it on occasion too. Competition use is a possibility. At a minimum, I want a reliable full size 9mm with above average capacity, long sight radius and simple controls (no manual safety). Tritium sight options and light mounting options would be nice.
Lots of choices out there fit this criteria, and people will want to recommend striker-fired options. I've had experience owning several striker guns, such as the SR9, SW9VE, M&P, and Glock 19. I still own a Glock 26 which is a keeper for the CCW role, but I want to go hammer-fired for this new gun. Partially because I generally like the trigger feel better than on a striker, and also because I've been thinking about the philosophy of carrying/storing a gun decocked for greater safety and transitioning to a single action pull for easier accuracy. It does make sense in some ways, provided you train with it.
Anyway, after doing some research and looking at prices, I've got two contenders in mind:
Beretta 92G, $550 online. On a whim I rented a 92FS at a local range and that's what got me on the hammer/decocker kick. I learned that the double to single transition really isn't much of an issue at all. This pistol has long proven reliability, a big but comfortable grip, a smooth double action trigger and a crisp single action. I shot nice well-centered groups with it using either trigger mode. The elegant looks don't hurt either. The only issue I had with it was in some cases activating the manual safety by accident when racking the slide, which is why I'd buy the decocker-only "G" model which was just rereleased by Beretta. 15 round mags are standard but factory 17, 20, and 30-rounders are easily available. If I want night sights I would apparently have to send the slide off to have the front sight drilled and a tritium insert installed. The 92G doesn't have an accessory rail but adaptors for lights exist.
CZ P-09, $439 online. I unfortunately have no hands-on experience with this gun as of yet, but everything I've seen and heard is very very positive. Reliability and accuracy are excellent by all accounts, the polymer frame makes it lighter than the Beretta, it has 3 backstraps for different-sized hands, a rail for lights, and available tritium sights. Capacity is excellent at 19+1 factory. The decocker seems like it would be easier to operate than on the 92. The price is very attractive compared to the Beretta. The gun isn't as "pretty" as the Beretta but it does have a very purposeful, business-like look. The main downsides I can see for this pistol are the lack of long-term track record compared with the 92, the expensive mags, and the fact that I've never had the chance to test one.

So in summary, I really want one of these awesome handguns and can't decide which. Please vote for one and let me know why you voted the way you did. Direct experience with one or both is preferable.

Thanks guys!
 
Love my 92. Through thousands of rounds of factory reloads I have only had 1 malfunction. That was last weekend with a mil surp checkmate magazine. With factory mags it has been absolutely flawless. You can also buy a 92A1 and send it to Wilson Combat for a G conversion. That would give you a factory rail as well.
 
My biggest problem with the Beretta Model 92, with the possible exception of the Vertex version, is that the grip design and trigger reach are just not favorable for those of us with small size hands. The CZ P09 is a little more ergonomic in that regard while their P01 is close to the being just right; much like the Browning Hi-Power.
 
My HD gun is a stock 92FS. It's big, it's heavy. However it's also robust and accurate. If you made me pick one bottom feeder to carry and shoot, it would probably be the 92.

That said, CZ makes a fine pistol as well.
 
Why those 2 only? even the P07 is easier to conceal and still has 16 rounds. Is it the 18 rounds that is a factor? Because you eliminated a lot of guns, like the FN's, etc?
 
I absolutely love my (out-of-production, pricey, and nearly impossible to find) Custom Shop-tuned CZ 75 Champion, but I've been underwhelmed to disappointed with every standard stock CZ I've shot. The Beretta is a much smoother, more refined gun with a substantially better stock trigger (made even better with the "D" spring), and it's an order of magnitude more reliable, both in my experience and according to the available testing. I'd go with the 92G without a second's hesitation.
 
I love my 92FS. I love my CZs. Of those two, I'd take the Beretta. If you would put it up against a 75BD, I'd take the CZ.
 
The Beretta is a fine looking gun, but it never fit my hands right and the slide mounted safety/decocker is a no-go in my book. Wish they'd have stuck with the frame mounted one.

Love me some CZ's though. Never handled/shot the p-09, but it should be similar to the p-07 which I like quite a bit.
 
I wouldn't pick either, but between the two, I'd take the Beretta.

...and also because I've been thinking about the philosophy of carrying/storing a gun decocked for greater safety and transitioning to a single action pull for easier accuracy.

You do realize a Glock is essentially an uncocked gun until you pull the trigger? That travel in the trigger is also finishing cocking the gun to fire it. Until then, it's a paperweight.
 
Why those 2 only? even the P07 is easier to conceal and still has 16 rounds. Is it the 18 rounds that is a factor? Because you eliminated a lot of guns, like the FN's, etc?

Those two are just what I ended up with after getting ever more picky with my criteria and reading/watching reviews on various pistols. I like the P07 but don't need to compromise barrel length or capacity in favor of concealment for this pistol. If you are referring to the FNX, they seem good but I don't want a manual safety.

Last time I tried to choose between a Beretta and a CZ, I came home with both.

I'd love to do that, but not in the cards at the moment. :D

You do realize a Glock is essentially an uncocked gun until you pull the trigger? That travel in the trigger is also finishing cocking the gun to fire it. Until then, it's a paperweight.

Understood. I believe the Glock mechanism is plenty safe, and do carry a 26. But I generally prefer the trigger takeup and break of a hammer-fired pistol over a striker, and feel that a hammer gun with no manual safety carried decocked is a safe and simple enough way to go.
 
My p-09 is perfect....I now have over 2k without an issue since Sept. Crazy accurate, you'll beat down plates all day long in the 20-25yd range. I can ring the 100yd gong scary easy if I rest the magazine on the bench. So much fun to shoot. I've really thought about buying a second one.

The trigger as if comes from the factory is great, and the feed ramp comes all polished up and ready to go. I went to buy a 75 but fell in love with the grip on the p-09, and I'm glad I did. It's nudged out my P220 as my favorite pistol at the moment.

Fit and finish are 100% spot on with anything I've owned or held

Does anyone know if CZ put the nitride finish on the 75's?


Drive to Virginia and you can hammer away with mine all you want.
 
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My experience with the P-07 has been great. I'd buy over Glock/M&P/XD any day of the week.
 
Love my 92. Through thousands of rounds of factory reloads I have only had 1 malfunction. That was last weekend with a mil surp checkmate magazine. With factory mags it has been absolutely flawless. You can also buy a 92A1 and send it to Wilson Combat for a G conversion. That would give you a factory rail as well.
With a name like that, how can you be expected to give an unbiased opinion?

:)
 
Asking me this question is like asking a computer to solve for pi... Its gonna put my brain on meltdown. I picked Beretta. Then in 20 minutes I will want to pick CZ.... Then back to Beretta... Then back to CZ. My brain hurts, my eye won't stop twitching
 
Asking me this question is like asking a computer to solve for pi... Its gonna put my brain on meltdown. I picked Beretta. Then in 20 minutes I will want to pick CZ.... Then back to Beretta... Then back to CZ. My brain hurts, my eye won't stop twitching

Welcome to my world... I've been going back and forth between them on Youtube searches. It's not helping.

Thanks for all the great replies so far guys. Still don't know what to do though. I wonder if it will come down to a coin toss.
 
Lol too true. But my post is simply that over thousands of rounds my 92 has been excellent. It's not biased or unbiased. I have no experience with CZ but people love them. I'm sure either will be a great choice.
 
I've had a couple of 92s (including a Vertec) and a 96. They were good enough guns, but always seemed, felt, and looked more massive than they needed to. (What suprised me about tha they fit the same holster as the CZ-75B...which doesn't, at least for me, have that "too big" feel/look. It always seemed like the handgun equivalent of a 1/2 ton pickup when I needed a 1/4 ton. My Italian-made 96 was very picky about ammo; loved some factory loads and hated others. Once I found some it liked, it was fine -- but couldn't always find that ammo (Fiocchi 180 gr. hardball) in shops.

That experience would probably push me to try the P-07 or P-09, which I've heard a lot of good about, but haven't seen, held, or shot. (I like the old CZ designs and trigger, but haven't been exposed to the new Omega trigger, yet.)
 
I have to admit I liked it better 30 years ago when nobody had heard the name CZ.

Fine pistols could be had for $200 new.

The cat is fully out of the bag these days.
 
I vote CZ here, I own two CZ75B and a CZ 40B 1911 clone, both are flawless,
on the other hand I never cared for anything Beretta except there shotguns.
 
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