Daveboone
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as the guy finishes sighting in his rifle at 50 yards, being barely able to keep a couple on the paper using the old "spray and pray" sighting technique...Close enough for this season.
What's the oddest thing you've heard someone say in regards to firearms, ammunition, etc.?
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CapnMac
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Seen that one a few too many times.
20 rounds into a 12" sort-of circle, then measure the three closest to each other and announce, "There'ya go, M-O-A!" and drive off.
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the report of a rifle is the air rushing back in to the barrel
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Well with the hair loss, what else would we use the hair gel for? 
I use the one shot as well, but wipe it off before firing. But not wiping it off, as a greased cartridge goes, that is probably on the minimum side.
I use the one shot as well, but wipe it off before firing. But not wiping it off, as a greased cartridge goes, that is probably on the minimum side.
Howland937
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You forgot the part where it's almost without fail, the afternoon before opening day.
One day I got a call at the shop from a customer who had a question about scopes.
Customer: "What does it mean when a scope is 4x32?"
Me: "It means the scope is a four power with a 32mm objective lens."
Customer: "What does four power mean?"
Me: "It means that if your target is 100 yards away, the target looks like it's only 25 yards away"
Customer: "Does the bullet still have to go the whole 100 yards?"
Long pause.
Me: "No, sir, The target merely appears to be 25 yards away.The scope does not actually compress space-time."
Somehow I managed to hang up before I started laughing.
Customer: "What does it mean when a scope is 4x32?"
Me: "It means the scope is a four power with a 32mm objective lens."
Customer: "What does four power mean?"
Me: "It means that if your target is 100 yards away, the target looks like it's only 25 yards away"
Customer: "Does the bullet still have to go the whole 100 yards?"
Long pause.
Me: "No, sir, The target merely appears to be 25 yards away.The scope does not actually compress space-time."
Somehow I managed to hang up before I started laughing.
.308 Norma
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Howland937
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From a seller on eBay "Sorry, the listing for that scope was a duplicate of one that sold a couple weeks ago" After the auction was over. That I coincidentally won. (Last night FWIW)
Paul Toms
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At the range with my wife, from down the way
ZeeM
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I was told by a dealer when I walked in not knowing a thing about guns. "you have to use FMJ in a Glock because Hollow points jam the gun". I actually believed him!!!!!
i think the most revloting thing ive seen in my many years was a couple of years ago my son shot a really nice buck as he always does. we went to town to check it in with the sate. a fat guy walks in with two fats boys with him. money and brains between any of them. as we were waiting in line to get checked in he was telling every one in a loud voice. yep we put seven or eight round in a couple of deer out their but they got away. got this one to fall down. every one winced. the was dangerous and a idiot. a few years back almost the same thing. a huge, tall fat very rich guy was at the local hard ware store. bragging about the big bull buffalo he just got. had to put 8 rounds in him to put him down. i couldnt resist, sir can i comment. he looked down at me with his im better than you look and said go ahead. i said, if you would have shot him in the neck have way up the withers he would have went down hard with one shot. then i walked out. he had no idea what i was talking about. two native american friend of mine who have shot over 300 buffalo each for elder furnerals taught me this. works every time on deer and elk also. one shot instant kill. 5 years ago i was driving to some land i could hunt deer on just 2 miles south of me here in remote western ne. a pickup truck was ahead of and they were for conn. when i passed them slowly they motioned me to stop. i though they need info. so i rolled down the passenger window and this is what the driver said to me. he said ,why are you out here, you are spoiling our hunt. i said because i live down the road in that house you just passed you f----------------------------- idiot. and i also said if you shoot a deer on any land this road is on you will lose your guns and your truck. then i drove on. a side bar and tolerate this one guys and gals. 4 summers ago i noticed a high end car i could never afford parked just at the edge of out drive way just as it goes onto the ranch road. i saw a guy watching the bad storm cloud forming twister tails to the north west of me. so i walked up to him and said what are doing. he said, it is exciting, i chase storms and this is so exciting as i think that tail is going to drop and come our way. i said you must be nuts, those things can kill you. then he told at me, i live in n.york city and these two weeks are the only joy in my life. i hate it their. my parting words to him was this, my wife and i pray against those things and then i said get another life. the twister didnt come our way and he moved on. ok enough of all the time i took up with you all.have a happy day.
Archie
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Something of note:
i've been interested in firearms for the last fifty-seven years. I own and load for - uh - more than six (yeah, close enough) firearms and have for forty-nine years. I have something like seven or eight feet of my library shelves full of various firearm books. Authors from Bob Nichols to Phil Sharpe to Terry Wieland. I even have a Chic Gaylord book for comedy relief.
I spend four years in the Marine Corps (left with the august rank of Sergeant (E5), and twenty-eight years as a Federal Lawman. (Border Patrol and Customs.)
One of the commonalities of all those government agencies or departments is gun carriers and troops are taught ONLY a limited amount about the weapons they are issued and expected to use. In the Marine Corps I was 'introduced' to various other weapons which consisted of a day or two being told what it was and sometimes getting to fire a few rounds under the immediate control and supervision of a range officer. For instance, I did get to fire a 3.5 inch rocket launcher (what most folks would think of as a "Bazooka", but it is a later type) but ONLY with the range officer by my side and watching. By the way, I had to fire it from the prone position, as standing up was too dangerous in the opinion of those who made such decisions.
Getting to the issue rifle (I was a rifleman - infantryman - at the time) I did get shown how to operate it, how to load magazines, correctly insert them in the magazine well, how to line up the sights, how to pull the trigger, and then how to disassemble the rifle, clean it and reassemble it. I think it was an eight hour block of instruction. We were lectured on the muzzle velocity of the rifle (no mention of variation between 'lots') no mention of bullet weight.
About the same in the lawman jobs. How to load and fire and basic marksmanship. How to clean. Caliber title, but no further information. Some very basic instruction on how to fire a shotgun. But in all cases, ONLY on the issue weapon. I worked with people in Customs who did not know if a lever action rifle was loaded, save to point it into the air and pull the trigger.
The idea about "I was in the _______ and I know about guns" is very limited and specific. Depending on the person, also very tightly bound to the ego.
i've been interested in firearms for the last fifty-seven years. I own and load for - uh - more than six (yeah, close enough) firearms and have for forty-nine years. I have something like seven or eight feet of my library shelves full of various firearm books. Authors from Bob Nichols to Phil Sharpe to Terry Wieland. I even have a Chic Gaylord book for comedy relief.
I spend four years in the Marine Corps (left with the august rank of Sergeant (E5), and twenty-eight years as a Federal Lawman. (Border Patrol and Customs.)
One of the commonalities of all those government agencies or departments is gun carriers and troops are taught ONLY a limited amount about the weapons they are issued and expected to use. In the Marine Corps I was 'introduced' to various other weapons which consisted of a day or two being told what it was and sometimes getting to fire a few rounds under the immediate control and supervision of a range officer. For instance, I did get to fire a 3.5 inch rocket launcher (what most folks would think of as a "Bazooka", but it is a later type) but ONLY with the range officer by my side and watching. By the way, I had to fire it from the prone position, as standing up was too dangerous in the opinion of those who made such decisions.
Getting to the issue rifle (I was a rifleman - infantryman - at the time) I did get shown how to operate it, how to load magazines, correctly insert them in the magazine well, how to line up the sights, how to pull the trigger, and then how to disassemble the rifle, clean it and reassemble it. I think it was an eight hour block of instruction. We were lectured on the muzzle velocity of the rifle (no mention of variation between 'lots') no mention of bullet weight.
About the same in the lawman jobs. How to load and fire and basic marksmanship. How to clean. Caliber title, but no further information. Some very basic instruction on how to fire a shotgun. But in all cases, ONLY on the issue weapon. I worked with people in Customs who did not know if a lever action rifle was loaded, save to point it into the air and pull the trigger.
The idea about "I was in the _______ and I know about guns" is very limited and specific. Depending on the person, also very tightly bound to the ego.
FlSwampRat
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Had an RSO at a local range ask me if the case behind me on the shelf was mine. As I was the only one shooting in that room (the range has a few rooms with maybe a half dozen ports in each room and theoretically a RSO in each room) yes, it was mine. He told me the same thing (the pointy end of the case was aimed toward the door), all muzzles must be pointed downrange at all times.
I told him it was pointed downrange and he started getting all "badge heavy" and saying he could clearly see it was pointed at the door and if I didn't follow his directions he'd have me removed. I picked up the case in the middle and it promptly folded on itself as the rifle was in the port, dutifully pointed at the backstop.
I did my best Spock eyebrow lift and he skedaddled.
SwampWolf
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Yesterday, I watched a "true crime" episode of The Mark of a Killer show where a New York City detective informed us that the cartridge case from the murderer's gun was stamped ".22 Long Rifle", which meant , according to him, that the gun firing it had to be a rifle. True story.
With a handgun I do this by timing the recoil and the amount of down force I put.
The brain subconsciously learns it with practice.
The only person I've seen pull the trigger twice before the gun cycled was Jerry Miculek. That resulted in him complaining because the second shot didn't go off.
Before your time, but Ed McGivern was the original revolver king. He shot revolvers because semi-autos were too slow. It's true he may not have been quite as fast as he thought because he was using rather primitive timing equipment, which he helped pioneer. However, there is a picture of a revolver with the second round being ignited while the bullet from the first round hasn't completely exited the barrel.
2 rounds with one sight picture. Sure, many can do that. But 2 rounds before there's any recoil. I can think of very few. Jerry, Ed and Bob Mundon come to mind.
Thunderchicken
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I have his book but I’ve never seen that picture. He was quite a guy. I am skeptical but willing to believe—can you point me in the direction of it? If not, I’ll just make a mental note to look out for it.
Many years ago I went into a Western Auto in Victorville, Ca to buy some .22 lr ammo. The genius at counter said he couldn't sell it to me, because I was too young. I questioned him and he told me they could be used in a handgun and being handgun ammo I needed to be 21. The genius then offered to sell me shorts and longs. Since my quarry that day was cans I took the longs. Next time in I made sure another clerk was at the counter.
burrhead
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Bfh_auto said:
Usually I let this stuff pass but there’ve been a few comments about my post so here we go.
Originally Howland937 posted “If you pull the trigger fast enough, you can get 2 shots off before you come off the target” as being a goofy statement by someone. You may need to read and understand the underlined again.
I replied “Actually, that's basically the definition of a double tap. When I was younger, stronger and faster I routinely kept two rounds within 2" of each other at 10 yds.” That’s true and I still can, pretty much.
beenbag then posted “ When the slide comes back to chamber another round, you’re not keeping your sights on target. You may track your sights back to the target after recoil and double tap, but it’s physically impossible to fire two times before recoil impulse and slide reciprocation takes place.”
I never said anything about firing before recoil impulse and slide reciprocation but instead commented about getting 2 shots off before coming off the target. My reply: ”beenbag,you're technically correct. It's two quick shots with one flash sight picture. I donno, how do you think double taps are accomplished?” “ I stand by that. If the “target” is a 1” bulls eye, yeah , that’s pretty tough. If it’s a 6” plate it’s easy.
I’ve shot club level IDPA and Steel challenge for, I donno, 25-30 years. Banged a LOT of steel and yes, I can double tap a 6” plate at 12 yrds all day long. So what, most anyone else can with some practice. It’s nothing special.
Them’s just the facts. I’m out.
Usually I let this stuff pass but there’ve been a few comments about my post so here we go.
Originally Howland937 posted “If you pull the trigger fast enough, you can get 2 shots off before you come off the target” as being a goofy statement by someone. You may need to read and understand the underlined again.
I replied “Actually, that's basically the definition of a double tap. When I was younger, stronger and faster I routinely kept two rounds within 2" of each other at 10 yds.” That’s true and I still can, pretty much.
beenbag then posted “ When the slide comes back to chamber another round, you’re not keeping your sights on target. You may track your sights back to the target after recoil and double tap, but it’s physically impossible to fire two times before recoil impulse and slide reciprocation takes place.”
I never said anything about firing before recoil impulse and slide reciprocation but instead commented about getting 2 shots off before coming off the target. My reply: ”beenbag,you're technically correct. It's two quick shots with one flash sight picture. I donno, how do you think double taps are accomplished?” “ I stand by that. If the “target” is a 1” bulls eye, yeah , that’s pretty tough. If it’s a 6” plate it’s easy.
I’ve shot club level IDPA and Steel challenge for, I donno, 25-30 years. Banged a LOT of steel and yes, I can double tap a 6” plate at 12 yrds all day long. So what, most anyone else can with some practice. It’s nothing special.
Them’s just the facts. I’m out.
milemaker13
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I remember thinking that as a young kid. I blame cartoons! A mouthful of bullets and a hammer to the head dont go bang- no matter how hard you try! Dont recall when my understanding began to evolve. Lol.
milemaker13
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Couple things- your list of excuses for possibly poor handling is quite long and rambling. Hard to follow really. You know what's easier? Just follow rule#1- all guns are always loaded.
Next, why all the hubbub? All dude did was gently remind you of safety measures. Like someone saying "watch your step". No big deal right?
And finally, you are assuming that your shooting buddy trusts you and watched you "properly" case your rifle.
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I heard this one earlier today.
I suppose I could have different definitions for acquaintance, friend and shooting buddy than some.
Evidently some humans will go out and shoot with just anyone.
(Sorry, man.
)milemaker13
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My best bud from child hood, military trained... trust him without question. I wouldn't let him walk behind me with a sharp stick let alone a rifle.
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