30-06 Based Cartridges

You mean 8x57 based.

I am going through a 270 Win stage. With the right barrel, bedding, and bullets, a 270 Win is an extremely accurate cartridge.

35 whelen. Or 280ai. Or maybe 6.5-06, basically any of them but 270.... And I'm even starting to like them too....

Technically speaking 270 is based on 30-03. Splitting hairs I know and the 270 is a fine hunting round, always has been. But it just never grabbed me.

I've had 280, 338-06 and 35 Whelen in the past. All are good enough cartridges, but I just never felt any offered me enough advantage over the original 30-06 to justify keeping them and 30-06. I probably like 280 the best though.

While I've never owned one, and probably never will, the 9.3X62 intrigues me. Now we're seeing a significant advantage over 30-06 coming closer to 375.

I love my .270 Win. More than enough cartridge for anything in South Georgia. Of course it helps that my .270 in chambered in a rifle I also love, the Tikka T3 Lite.

The .30-06 is my favorite cartridge based on the .30-06. For practicality, I rank 280 Rem a distant second place, although whimsically, I’d put 6.5-06 and 35 Whelen ahead of it.

Sneakshot92 said:

+1 on the 35 Whelen.
Someday I'm going to build one. In my opinion it's one of the 3 best medium bore non magnum cartridges. The others being 338-06 and 35 Rem.

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Right there with you. Only had mine for a while but it is really fun. Haven't even fireformed all the brass I planned on forming out, and I'm already working on reduced plinker loads and planning out how crazy I want to top it out at. It is a fun project, just go get one!

Sneakshot92 said:

What's your favorite rifle cartridge that was developed from the 30-06? This is more for fun than anything else. Pics are welcome if ya got em!

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I have very little interest in anything on the default .30-06 taper and shoulder angle. They were a mistake from day one, albeit one that was incorrectly though to be required for machine gun feeding. From the beginning the extra bolt thrust proved a curse, and for reloading they're less than ideal.

If you AI the case, then the majority of bore diameters up through 7mm become interesting. The exception is .270 AI due to a lack of high-SD bullets, although that may be changing with two new fast twist .277s on the market. The .280 AI is a real winner. The .30-06 AI is a little too big a bore and performance starts to fall off unless you sacrifice sectional density.

The 9.3X62mm is not a derivative of the .30-06 case. Proper 9.3X62mm case bodies are a few thousands of an inch larger in diameter.

If we are not stuck to scale, the 50 BMG for me.

Alsaqr, where did you get the information regarding 9.3x62mm cases being a few thousands of an inch in diameter. The entry I find in 5th Edition Ammo Encyclopedia refers to the cartridge as being 'developed' from 8x57mm Mauser, and the schematic lists the extractor rim and body diameters as the same as 9.3x57mm. So what source do you have telling it is different?

jmorris said:

If we are not stuck to scale, the 50 BMG for me.

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+1 on this

Probably the .223 Rem, which is a scaled-down .30-06.

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Harry

I like the 30-06 as my favorite. The first rifle I bought was a 700 bdl lh in 30-06. I would say that the cartridges in the family that I like include the 25-06 and 35 Whelen. Everything else is just in between.

"30-06 Based Cartridges"

7mm x 57mm Mauser.

Errr... The other way around.

So 7mm-08 I guess.

I'll just stick to the original. I've got a Weatherby Mark V action 30-06, I bought it new in 1996, I guess I'll just use it until I can't hunt anymore, hopefully my grandson will want it.

30.06 for me....I could really get into the 338-06. I have thought of selling a 338 Number 1 and going down that path, but not enough to do anything about it....

For many many years, while I had great appreciation for the 30-06 itself, I thought the 270 Win was just a pet project boosted by Jack O'Connor and hyped beyond all reality. As a fan of the Swede, what need had I of the 270.

But then I did just want to push a 140 grs 6.5mm bullet rather faster than one should in a Swedish Mauser and I sort of got interested in the 6.5-06. And then, I did math. At 0.013" larger dimater, . 277 bullets,while less prolific, are not much larger diameter, and there are a LOT of rifles chambered in 270 Win.

So I came to the 270 Win. It's an awfully useful cartridge, as I would imagine is the 280 Rem.

I'm partial the .270 Winchester, but I've owned more roscoes in '06.

BTW, if we're being pedantic, I wanna be the first to say that the .319" Patrone 88 is the actual progenitor of the line -- 7.92x57 is its .323" first born. As with the 30-03 and 30-06, the Patrone 88 and 7.92x57 are not strictly the same cartridge, even though the cases are dimensionally identical.

For me, the .25-06 Remington. Craig Boddington (arguably of course) wrote this is the flattest shooting, lowest recoil, hardest hitting cartridge (combination) of those features. That's not in any ranked order hierarchy. My appreciation of it is because of the combination of features he put quite succinctly.

As far as long action cartridges developed completely independently of the .30-06, .30-03, and so on: the 7X64mm Brenneke with its 1917 birthday and standard rifle barrel rifling twist rate of 1:8.67 inches.

For range of versatility in projectile weights and shapes the .30-06 Springfield is still worth owning for me.

I'm partial to the .280 Rem, even though I don't own one at the moment.
Maybe it's because it was the first caliber that I purchased for myself at 19 years old. I also killed my first few deer with it.

I'll eventually get another, but honestly it won't do a thing that my current deer rifles won't. But that's not really relevant to me wanting one.

Ironically, all of my hunting rifles, except one, are based off of the .30-06. First is my Ruger M77 in .30-06, then a custom pre-`64 Model 70 in .35 Whelen, then another custom pre-`64 Model 70 in .30-06 Ackley Improved, and finally, an AR in .308.

My only bastard rifle is in .257 Roberts.