Trashyshoots
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Rode with a glock 19 owb on my right hip. That gun survived 3 crashes better than I did.
Carrying on a Motorcycle
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I carry at 4:00 (always) my S&W shield in a leather Tagua thumb break. I don't like to change the location of my gun or holster ever, if at all possible, as I have seen some "shenanigans" during training with the guys who have several holsters for every occasion in their kit bag. The thumb break is my positive retention, which is necessary due to the fact that I tend to ride older Harleys with a lot of vibration, as well as to (hopefully) retain the gun in the event of a crash. It is necessary to insure that it is WELL CONCEALED by my jacket ( I have several of those, depending on weather) because open carry in most cases is illegal in Fl. The law states that "brief, accidental exposure" of a concealed firearm is not considered open carry, but due to wind and other properties of physics, and no definition of "brief" is provided in the statute ("I have been following you for the last 5 miles watching your jacket flap around and looking at your exposed gun") I prefer that concealment is maintained at all times, and road-side "discussion" about the matter is avoided.
Speedo66
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I see photos of people carrying, so I’ll add a carry story.
Heading for work in the Bronx one morning from Westchester Co., where I lived. Wearing a suit, carrying a Glock 26 outside waistband at 8 o’clock, I’m a lefty.
Pass through Yonkers, maybe going a little fast, OK, I was speeding, a little late for work.
See a Yonkers cop on a bike, but he seems to be staying still. Get on the Major Deegan Expressway in the Bronx and think I see something red in my mirror. I was riding an older bike, a 1977 Harley XLCR Cafe Racer Sportster, a collectible. Rare, low production, looks more Japanese cafe racer than chopper which is why it was a sales flop for Harley, and rare now.
The mirrors on the bike vibrate so much it's impossible to see anything once you get going, but I turn around and sure enough the Yonkers cop has chased me into the Bronx, probably thinks I'm running since I didn't stop for his lights.
I pull into a gas station on the highway and stop, he stops, but stays at a distance. I ask if he saw my gun when my suit flaps up while riding. He nods yes. Concealed carry is rare in this part of NY, most are illegal. I say I'm going to take out ID. I hold up my shield and all is well.
He says he saw me speeding, saw the gun, and liked the bike. Now that we're buddies, he asks if he can look the bike over. I'm late, but since he's not going to give me a ticket, I can't say no.
He gives me his card and asks me to call him if I'm ever going to sell it, but years later when I do, it's more than he can spend.
Below is my current street ride, a 2001 Kaw W650, sort of a Japanese Triumph. As I mentioned in a previous post here, since a spill where my phone gave me a pretty good hurt, I don't carry on a bike anymore.
Heading for work in the Bronx one morning from Westchester Co., where I lived. Wearing a suit, carrying a Glock 26 outside waistband at 8 o’clock, I’m a lefty.
Pass through Yonkers, maybe going a little fast, OK, I was speeding, a little late for work.
See a Yonkers cop on a bike, but he seems to be staying still. Get on the Major Deegan Expressway in the Bronx and think I see something red in my mirror. I was riding an older bike, a 1977 Harley XLCR Cafe Racer Sportster, a collectible. Rare, low production, looks more Japanese cafe racer than chopper which is why it was a sales flop for Harley, and rare now.
The mirrors on the bike vibrate so much it's impossible to see anything once you get going, but I turn around and sure enough the Yonkers cop has chased me into the Bronx, probably thinks I'm running since I didn't stop for his lights.
I pull into a gas station on the highway and stop, he stops, but stays at a distance. I ask if he saw my gun when my suit flaps up while riding. He nods yes. Concealed carry is rare in this part of NY, most are illegal. I say I'm going to take out ID. I hold up my shield and all is well.
He says he saw me speeding, saw the gun, and liked the bike. Now that we're buddies, he asks if he can look the bike over. I'm late, but since he's not going to give me a ticket, I can't say no.
He gives me his card and asks me to call him if I'm ever going to sell it, but years later when I do, it's more than he can spend.
Below is my current street ride, a 2001 Kaw W650, sort of a Japanese Triumph. As I mentioned in a previous post here, since a spill where my phone gave me a pretty good hurt, I don't carry on a bike anymore.
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ScrapMetalSlug
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Here is a good video of Paul Harrell where he shows what it is like if you ever need to shoot from a motorcycle.
For those uncomfortable with carrying on the bike, they make several tank bags, that may be a good place to keep a firearm quickly accessible but not on your body while riding. Here is an example.
https://wolfmanluggage.com/products/enduro-tank-bag-wp
To keep with the theme, here is my old dr650, the bike is now gone, but was one of my favorites and yes I carried while riding it.
For those uncomfortable with carrying on the bike, they make several tank bags, that may be a good place to keep a firearm quickly accessible but not on your body while riding. Here is an example.
https://wolfmanluggage.com/products/enduro-tank-bag-wp
To keep with the theme, here is my old dr650, the bike is now gone, but was one of my favorites and yes I carried while riding it.
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Charlie98
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I usually carry a backpack when I ride dirt... The idea of a get-off in the dirt is more likely for me, and I've seen stuff get scattered hither and yon in the dirt, hopefully the pack keeps it all together. I also carry other 'essentials' in the pack... like water and toilet paper.
Riding in the NV desert...
Riding in the NV desert...
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Charlie98
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...and the Ducati. Because of the plastic tank shroud, I couldn't use my old magnetic tank bag like I did on my CBR1000F... so carrying a bag just for the pistol can be a PITA because you have to take it off and on anytime you go in somewhere. Yes, I'm sniveling...
mmb617
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I don't ride as much as I used to but when I do my M&P Compact is carried the same as always AIWB in a leather holster which is very secure on me. I ride a cruiser and my gun is well concealed even when my cover garment is only a T-shirt.
I don't even think about being injured by my gun if I crash, anymore than I worry about not wearing a helmet or a lot of protective gear. Each of us makes our own choices on risk assessment.
I don't even think about being injured by my gun if I crash, anymore than I worry about not wearing a helmet or a lot of protective gear. Each of us makes our own choices on risk assessment.
Jack Ryan
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NOTHING gives an appreciation for what it takes more than trying it.
I started out from the lawn mower while mowing the range. Then the tractor then the bicycle, the truck, a three wheeler and finally from the bike a few times just to see what I'm REALLY capable of pulling off. You don't know until you try.
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WestKentucky
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When I rode I carried off body in a tank bag. I also put wallet and such there so when I got off the bike people saw me transition totally from bag to pants, and a pistol in a pocket holster just looks like a wallet or phone holster unless specifically looking for a gun. Practice a quick transition and it will be so seamless that it’s totally undetectable, especially for small guns that look like a wallet anyway (Taurus curve, g42 with light, etc... I also carried a tiny pistol between shoulder blades in a customized compression shirt.
WestKentucky
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agreed
this one got the gun treatment. I had a beat to death brass frame Pietta Remington with more missing parts than present parts. That frame became a license plate bracket, and it got storage added in the form of an ammo can on the left and a kolpin rifle case on the right. I wish I could say it went to the range a lot, but it did more duty carrying golf clubs and fishing rods in the rifle case, a shotgun went to the dove fields on that bike a few times though. I regret buying that particular bike, and ended up giving it away out of frustration and title troubles. I want to recreate the basic idea with a more traditional bike like a cbFour750
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Never tried it from a motorcycle, but years ago I drove around on BLM desert land with a shooting buddy just to see what we could manage. Which turned out to be nothing more than making fools of ourselves. So when Clint Smith came out with "Either drive or shoot. Not both." as a general principle of self defense, he got a real "Amen!" from me.
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Goneshoot'n
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It's good to hear that my fears can probably be put to bed. And replaced with the risk of extra injury from landing on a gun in a crash... I guess if that's going to scare you off, you probably shouldn't ride at all. I think I'll give it a try, and also look into carrying in tank/saddle bags. And more comments with bonus motorcycle pictures are welcome! Thanks
Howland937
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My carrying on a bike was always done in the small storage area under my back seat. If I left my house to just go ride, like in the morning before traffic and heat I didn't carry. If I was riding with a destination in mind, I had my normal carry holster on me, gun locked away. After stopping, could normally discretely holster it while retrieving wallet, hat etc and hanging helmet and jacket. Never did it while in a crowded area though. Officer size Springfield held up better to 2 crashes than me or the 2 bikes did.
scaatylobo
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Thanks for attempting to do that video,most of it was not audible due to the wind noise.
And since I ride a 'bagger' that has a cruise control,I have options that you did not.
And I dare say that one of THE guns that would be used would be a HIGH capacity semi auto [ Glock,Beretta,CZ etc ].
And you forgot or did not know about he Mossberg Shockwave.
WestKentucky
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I had a red monster for a few months, and I still used my tank bag. I had to lash it to the ladder looking portion of the frame, but I got it done the few times I rode that one. I never cared for the bike because I’m way too big and not built for a true sport bike, but it was a whole lot of fun in short spurts. Definitely not a bike to try for an iron butt title on.
Speedo66
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I have soft storage on both my bikes but I'm afraid I'd forget I'd placed a gun in it and walk away.
That fear is enough to keep me from doing it.
I don't carry all the time anyway, so I can do without when I ride.
That fear is enough to keep me from doing it.
I don't carry all the time anyway, so I can do without when I ride.
rskent
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Vertical shoulder holster. I’ve never lost one carrying in my waist band, it’s just a lot more comfortable. And vertical so I don’t point anything at the wifie.
Pat Riot
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Below is my 2016 Kawasaki Versys. If I wasn’t carrying on my person I had the saddlebags available as well as a cubby hole in the faring which I used very little once I discovered that reaching in there while wearing a heavy leather and gloves jacket wasn’t so easy.
I really like that tank bag idea mentioned earlier by @WestKentucky
I really like that tank bag idea mentioned earlier by @WestKentucky
Boarhunter
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When I ride my Victory Hi-Ball, I carry precisely as I do all other times: IWB at 4 o'clock.
BOARHUNTER
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BMW 1200 GS here....I stow my P365 and its OWB holster in a 4" roll type pillion bag mounted to the back of my saddle. Wallet and phone go it there as well. Works well, and getting off the bike, stowing the jacket and helmet while reloading my pockets, the gun just gets lost in all that motion and clutter. Even my riding buddies have never noticed. Rod
I have always lived in States where "flashing" was not a crime if you had a carry license so I just wore revolvers in IWB rigs and coundn't care less if the wind blew my jacket up and exposed it. The only time I went down on a bike I was wearing a Galco Miami shoulder rig under a leather jacket. As I went down for some reason I remember thinking about seeing my S&W 696 (my Precious!!!) go skating down the asphalt but the snap on the rig retained it and the leather jacket protected it. I got lucky that day. The S&W was totally unharmed. Can't say that for the bike or myself or my favorite jacket........ Pat Riot - VERY NICE bike man!
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entropy
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Hope she doesn't try to get frisky when you carry like that-a Harley in second gear at 2-2500 rpm can do that to some gals....
Charlie98
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I quit carrying my nice pistols many years ago... I would not want to have one lost to a police investigation for years (centuries...) after a shoot, or lose one (I have had a pistol stolen out of my pickup.) My Kahrs are $300 pistols I can replace easily, and I won't cry myself to sleep at night if I lose one.
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