Henry Pump .22

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I got a Henry Pump 22 over the winter. Shot it first time today. What a work out. My dad’s old Remington pump is smooth as silk and the Henry feels like your at the gym. Great exercise tool.

With 1980’s vintage ammo it was accurate with no sight adjustments to 25 yards. Didn’t have a chance to try farther since the sky opened up on us.

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Is the tight action normal? It is a shooter.
 
I have had Rossi and Taurus pump 22 rifles, both copies of the Winchester model with the external hammer. They were rattly and a little rough to pump, but nowhere near as strenuous as you describe. In contrast, a Winchester original was like you describe a Remington - very smooth and solid. They were not top of the line for nothing.
 
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Nice rifle! keep shooting maybe it will smooth out. I get into looking at the tacti cool stuff but always go back to pretty blued steel and wood. I had a Henry lever .22L would like another one , they were recently on sale but out stock in a flash
 
They're red headed! Gotta pump 'em like you're mad at 'em. I had one for a little while and it did loosen up some after about 500 rounds. Just keep it oiled up good. If it still proves stiff, clip 2 or 3 coils off the hammer spring. I did that to mine and it really helped, and didn't affect the reliability that I noticed.

It was a good little gun though, plenty accurate enough for small game and plinking around. In the end, I found the lever guns to be a touch faster to operate.

Mac
 
I have an old 62A Winchester pump .22 and it is smooth, but you still have to work the action with a little authority.
 
I have had Rossi and Taurus pump 22 rifles, both copies of the Winchester model with the external hammer. They were rattly and a little rough to pump, but nowhere near as strenuous as you describe. In contrast, a Winchester original was like you describe a Remington - very smooth and solid. They were not top of the line for nothing.
How did the Rossi shoot? I've been thinking about getting a manual action .22 rifle, one that's not a bolt action, and I think I would much prefer a pump to a lever. The Rossi's are significantly less than the Henry and are based on the original Winchester, so those things appeal to me.
 
How did the Rossi shoot? I've been thinking about getting a manual action .22 rifle, one that's not a bolt action, and I think I would much prefer a pump to a lever. The Rossi's are significantly less than the Henry and are based on the original Winchester, so those things appeal to me.

I always enjoyed shooting that rifle, but I never had much chance to shoot it outdoors at any real distance. Mostly I shot it at indoor pistol ranges at 50 or 75 feet. I could shoot it a lot better than a pistol at 75 feet, but between my shooting abilities and the fairly crude iron sights on it, I could not call it a tack driver. That is really the downside of that gun - it is hard to put good sights on it. Maybe nowadays a red-dot sight would work well, but the factory sights are a design from the 1890's. No, I would call it a very fun gun for plinking, but not suited for real target use, and maybe not even for hunting squirrels or rats at 50 yards. You could get tang mounted aperture sights for the original Winchesters, which would have helped, but I have no idea if they are available for the Rossi/Taurus.

I very much prefer a pump to a lever myself. I just never got handy with levers, whereas pumps seemed perfectly natural to me.

BTW, the Taurus pump is the same as the Rossi pump, because Taurus bought Rossi and just began marking the rifles Taurus. The only changes they made were to the shape of the forend (flat bottomed instead of round) and adding a little safety catch on the breechblock to lock up the firing pin. I assume their legal department insisted on that, because it does not serve much practical purpose.

If Remington still makes their hammerless pump .22, it might be more useful. It saddens me to say that, because I like the Winchester/Rossi/Taurus design, but it is true.
 
I always enjoyed shooting that rifle, but I never had much chance to shoot it outdoors at any real distance. Mostly I shot it at indoor pistol ranges at 50 or 75 feet. I could shoot it a lot better than a pistol at 75 feet, but between my shooting abilities and the fairly crude iron sights on it, I could not call it a tack driver. That is really the downside of that gun - it is hard to put good sights on it. Maybe nowadays a red-dot sight would work well, but the factory sights are a design from the 1890's. No, I would call it a very fun gun for plinking, but not suited for real target use, and maybe not even for hunting squirrels or rats at 50 yards. You could get tang mounted aperture sights for the original Winchesters, which would have helped, but I have no idea if they are available for the Rossi/Taurus.

I very much prefer a pump to a lever myself. I just never got handy with levers, whereas pumps seemed perfectly natural to me.

BTW, the Taurus pump is the same as the Rossi pump, because Taurus bought Rossi and just began marking the rifles Taurus. The only changes they made were to the shape of the forend (flat bottomed instead of round) and adding a little safety catch on the breechblock to lock up the firing pin. I assume their legal department insisted on that, because it does not serve much practical purpose.

If Remington still makes their hammerless pump .22, it might be more useful. It saddens me to say that, because I like the Winchester/Rossi/Taurus design, but it is true.
The idea isn't to be a target gun or even a small game gun past 25 yards, it's a .22 that's light, handy, fast, and reliable, at least more reliable than a semi auto, and effective with a variety of ammo. Like, I find Winchester .22 ammo to be pretty accurate in the guns I shoot them from, but they always seem to have issues cycling the semi autos.

That was a reason I got a Marlin bolt action years ago, but accuracy is terrible, the iron sights are garbage, the gun weighs a ton, and working the bolt is slow.
 
I get the need to cycle with authority, but compared to the others I have shot, it is a much harder cycle. It did cycle all I fed it. Did shoot to point of aim right out of the box.
 
The idea isn't to be a target gun or even a small game gun past 25 yards, it's a .22 that's light, handy, fast, and reliable, at least more reliable than a semi auto, and effective with a variety of ammo. Like, I find Winchester .22 ammo to be pretty accurate in the guns I shoot them from, but they always seem to have issues cycling the semi autos.

The Rossi/Taurus Winchester pump copies fit that bill just fine. You can get better iron sights from Williams to replace the factory one. I had that done with the Rossi I owned. Rossi, at least, made a carbine version that was even shorter and handier. IIRC, there was also a 22 Magnum version, a nickel or chrome plated one, and Taurus, I think, made them in stainless steel.

The reason I have had both a Taurus and a Rossi version of the same rifle is not because there was anything wrong with either one. I forgot that the Rossi was in the leaky trunk of the car I had then, it rained, the case got wet, and the gun got rusty. I got the rust off, but looking at it afterward just made me feel dumb and careless, as well it should have. I gave it to a friend. Later I got to missing it and bought a Taurus version. It might be a squinch better made than the Rossi.
 
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The Rossi/Taurus Winchester pump copies fit that bill just fine. You can get better iron sights from Williams to replace the factory one. I had that done with the Rossi I owned. Rossi, at least, made a carbine version that was even shorter and handier. IIRC, there was also a 22 Magnum version, a nickel or chrome plated one, and Taurus, I think, made them in stainless steel.

The reason I have had both a Taurus and a Rossi version of the same rifle is not because there was anything wrong with either one. I forgot that the Rossi was in the leaky trunk of the car I had then, it rained, the case got wet, and the gun got rusty. I got the rust off, but looking at it afterward just made me feel dumb and careless, as well it should have. I gave it to a friend. Later I got to missing it and bought a Taurus version. It might be a squinch better made than the Rossi.
Jeez, and to think I thought getting a ding on my .327 SP101 was reason enough to sell it.
 
Jeez, and to think I thought getting a ding on my .327 SP101 was reason enough to sell it.

LOL, if I got rid of every gun I put a ding in, I would not have any guns. I had an S&W .32 automatic that was near mint. I sold it and bought a worn one because I did not want to mess up the minty one (and I thought I could sell the minty one for more than the worn one cost. Came pretty close, but not quite.)

I am not one of those people who can keep the things they own pretty much perfect except for honest wear. I admire them, but I don't have what that takes.

How did you like the Ruger and the cartridge, BTW?
 
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LOL, if I got rid of every gun I put a ding in, I would not have any guns. I had an S&W .32 automatic that was near mint. I sold it and bought a worn one because I did not want to mess up the minty one (and I thought I could sell the minty one for more than the worn one cost. Came pretty close, but not quite.)

I am not one of those people who can keep the things they own pretty much perfect except for honest wear. I admire them, but I don't have what that takes.

How did you like the Ruger and the cartridge, BTW?
Don't want to derail the thread so I'll keep this brief: SP101 could have been better made and finished, ergonomics aren't great. .327 is nice, more power than .32 Mag. Will be trying some 12 grain loads of AA#9 (starting charges) and those should be more than enough for most self defense work. It's really in rifles I think .327 can excel, but for revolvers... I feel .327 is "too much", however, like I said, low end handloads are still a lot more than .32 Mag, yet should suffice.
 
Thanks. I am hoping that it will loosen up.
It won't, it's a poorly designed action, from the VERY good lever model...

When I complained to Henry about how hard mine (22 Win. mag.) worked and some "other" things, the owner told me straight out that it would never be like the other pump guns, and asked me to return it to them...

He also told me I'd never be happy with a replacement, IF I expected it to be smooth working, and then sent a lever rifle to my dealer to replace the pump...

DM
 
It won't, it's a poorly designed action, from the VERY good lever model...

When I complained to Henry about how hard mine (22 Win. mag.) worked and some "other" things, the owner told me straight out that it would never be like the other pump guns, and asked me to return it to them...

He also told me I'd never be happy with a replacement, IF I expected it to be smooth working, and then sent a lever rifle to my dealer to replace the pump...

DM
That's good customer service.
I'd like to have a Henry pump but only because I like the company and it's current production with a proper warranty. I would have to assume it will loosen up some, I'd run 5,000 through and see how it is. If you don't like it, sounds like Henry would make it right.
 
Throw a handful (1/2 teaspoon) of 4f valve grinding compound in there, cycle 500 times, wash out with alcohol or mineral spirits, lube and enjoy.
 
I have a Browning Pump 22 that cycles 22lr
like grass through a goose.
I'd like to see a lever gun try and keep up.
 
Throw a handful (1/2 teaspoon) of 4f valve grinding compound in there, cycle 500 times, wash out with alcohol or mineral spirits, lube and enjoy.
Won't help it, it's a poor design!

That's why they took mine back, because I asked if it would EVER smooth up, and they said NO, it will never be like a pump gun that was "designed" as a pump gun.

Like I said, it's a poor design with little mechanical advantage to help it.

Another reason they took it back is, it fired out of battery and stuck the fired cases in the chamber... A lever would have pulled them out, the pump would not!

DM
 
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