“Federal Rifled Slug”

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F439FA35-CFB8-4AFD-9477-4AF20FC54EB9.jpeg Finding 12ga slugs in my area is akin to finding a scratch off lottery ticket winning more than the cost of the ticket. Sure, it happens, but not super often. Yesterday was my day, but I’m not entirely sure about what I bought. I can’t find any pictures or anything of what this ammo looks like stripped down. I assume it to be similar to the Truball federal slugs, but Again, there is not much info I have found so far. Either way, 15 of these for $15 is not too terrible, and 1-1/4oz at 1600fps is no slouch. It’s going to be a thumper and hopefully between this and the truball ammo I already had it will be enough to kill a deer or ten over the next year or two.

Has anybody dissected one of these? Used them on game?
 
That is not Trueball. It is undersized, "rifled" Foster slug. In some guns, lights out accurate. In others, minute of barn door. Shoot and see. In my experience, from an imp cyl bore or mod, six to eight inch groups at 50 yards. Some way better.
I pay more for the real Trueball. Actually, I shoot Accutip from a Savage 220 rifle.
 
Many years ago I bought a few of every kind of 12 gauge slug available locally. Federal 1 1/4 oz were among them and the recoil was brutal. I have never seen a foster slug from a smooth bore gun that did better than about 6 inch groups at 50 yards.
 
Those and similar have accounted for a big pile of deer throughout the corn belt. The 2 3/4" variety are still all my family shoot. They do have their limitations in the accuracy and trajectory departments. I consider them good to 50 yards, 75 in a gun that throws them well. I've experimented with a few different brands and got from near cloverleaf groups to wide patterns at 50 yards. I had my best luck shooting them through a modified choke. I also tried a Remington rifled choke and had good average results but didn't beat the best groups from the modified. They do a fine job on deer though with decent shot placement. Recoil will be severe.
 
Indeed, that’s a lot of slug at a fast velocity. I hope your shotgun fits you well and has a cushy recoil pad. :what:

Hopefully the slugs work well in your shotgun :thumbup:.

Stay safe.
 
Cut one open and see. Personally I wouldn't bother though, just shoot it and see how your gun likes them. It's not like a 12ga hole from a 1.25oz slug isn't going to do its job on a deer. I have an 870 with a 20" smooth bore slug barrel that likes foster slugs, does about 4" at 50 yards IIRC with Remington sluggers. It does better with Brenneke KO's though. Never tried truballs, I've never taken a shot further than 30 yards on a deer so I don't need pinpoint accuracy.
 
The breakdown: 1 1/4 oz. Foster (Not Forster or Forester; They were invented by Karl Foster) slug, a bit more than the usual 1 oz., MAX Dram Eq. = OUCH! 3", make sure your gun can take 'em, 1600 FPS :what:

These are bruisers! I'd keep looking, but then I like my shoulder. The best choke for Foster slugs tends to be between IC and Mod., depending on the individual gun.

I prefer Tru-Ball for slugs from my Ithaca 37 HD gun; I used Hornady SST's form my Hastings cantilever barrel on my 870 when I slug hunted deer.
 
One issue with the forester slugs is they tend to overpenetrate and plow straight through a target. This makes them a sorry and even libelous choice for home defense, though they have garnered a following among the ModWestern deer hunters.
 
Just like buckshot has garnered a following among Southern deer hunters. Buckshot is illegal for deer up here, slugs are not. And it's Foster slug, after the inventor of them, Karl M. Foster.
 
I think we have a case of autocorrect. As for my experience with Foster slug wound channels, I find them comparable to large caliber muzzle loader projectiles. They are dead soft lead, and tend to flatten and plow through a soft target.
 
There are two groups of hunters that use shotgun slugs for deer. Those with no other legal option and those that don't know any better.
+1. My state is divided into shotgun and rifle zones. After using each for years there is no comparison between a highspeed centerfire with correct expanding bullets and slugs of any kind.
 
I've never shot or hunted with slugs but I know for certain I would never ever want to be hit with one. Can you imagine a 12ga. slug hitting a leg bone. :eek:
 
One issue with the forester slugs is they tend to overpenetrate and plow straight through a target.

That was always my thought. I use them in my silver reserve 2 now. It shoots them pretty well. 3 inch 1-1/4 slugs from federal @ 1600. Different box though. 5 per box. I bought a case a while back. I carry one barrel loaded with one in a spot I hunt where the bear are either friendly/ brave/ or just dumb. Twice me and my dog have walked within 15 yards of one before it noticed me. Maybe it can't hear or smell. Idk. Both times was in a field full of cattle. Once before those two instances I was setting up on a rock before dark waiting on a deer to wonder along and one came along. (Same one maybe idk. I didn't get it's name. They all look alike) I whistled. Threw rocks. Yelled. I recorded it on my phone. Just kept coming. Flipping over rocks and eating bugs Never would run. I waited until almost dark and shot it in the ear with a 7mm RUM so I could walk out. Was an uneasy walk out of the woods in the dark.
 
I live in slug only territory . I hunted deer with a 20 gauge. My best deer/slug gun was an old Stevens Model 620 with a shorted barrel. Sweated on a set of Remington sights. This gun liked Remington slugs. It shot amazingly well and would (no kidding) shoot 3 shot groups with all three holes touching each other at 50 yards. A friend of mine begged to buy it and since I didn't hunt every year I sold it. (like a dummy). A few years later I ended up buying a Remington 1100 standard 20 gauge and actually found a factory slug barrel for it. I bought 6 brands of slugs and patterned each through this gun. A 2&1/2 - to 3 inch group at 50 yards was best it would do with Remington slugs so that was now my dear gun. That season I took a nice doe. My first shot at near 100 yards just missed the heart and took out the lungs. The deer took off running like it hadn't been hit. Lucky enough she ran parallel to me. My second shot a miss, but my third shot took her just above the ear and dropped her like a rock. I have hunted with other here in slug country and watch deer take two to three body shots before getting hit with a spine shot before dropping, or will go a half mile or more before dropping from a lung or gut shot. Slug penetration's are always good ,generally going completely through, but placement is critical or you will need to track them. They seem to make it to someone else's land before dropping which can be a problem. Head and spine shots are best, bone shots are OK. Otherwise they are going some distance even with a heart or lung shot. My experience Just FYI . As far as those 3" Federals go they are going to kick like a mule. I did sight ins for a local gun shop. I also have a destroyed rotor cup I attribute to those sight ins and particularly to 12 gauge 3 inch slugs. To me they are an overkill. All the energy after the slug exit is wasted. Just my biased opinion.
 
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Contrary to what some here have reported, I’ve found 12ga Foster slug penetration to be disappointing.
The slugs being soft lead flatten out to something resembling a flat washer. Especially the so-called hollow point versions.

I’ve never had a Foster slug completely penetrate a deer. Our deer run small, up to perhaps 180lbs.
Coupled with underwhelming accuracy, they are a poor choice.
I hunt an area that is slug only. Therefore I now use a Mossberg M220.
It shoots 4-5” at 100yds with the Federal 7/8oz sabot slug. The Remington AeroTip slugs group around 2.5” at 100yds. No success with it yet...

I’ve developed a sabot load using a Lee .54 REAL bullet in a wad that’s showing promise.
 

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Ddupleks slugs, anyone? I've used them occasionally for a few years now and they seem to be pretty effective. Very unconventional design but especially Monolit (sold as Steelhead in the US) is a good penetrator. OTOH Ddupleks Dupo, Hexolit and Rossa (aka. Broadhead) are usually better suited for deer-sized game unless you insist on punching a hole clean through the deer for whatever reason.
 
I live in slug only territory . I hunted deer with a 20 gauge. My best deer/slug gun was an old Stevens Model 620 with a shorted barrel. Sweated on a set of Remington sights. This gun liked Remington slugs. It shot amazingly well and would (no kidding) shoot 3 shot groups with all three holes touching each other at 50 yards. A friend of mine begged to buy it and since I didn't hunt every year I sold it. (like a dummy). A few years later I ended up buying a Remington 1100 standard 20 gauge and actually found a factory slug barrel for it. I bought 6 brands of slugs and patterned each through this gun. A 2&1/2 - to 3 inch group at 50 yards was best it would do with Remington slugs so that was now my dear gun. That season I took a nice doe. My first shot at near 100 yards just missed the heart and took out the lungs. The deer took off running like it hadn't been hit. Lucky enough she ran parallel to me. My second shot a miss, but my third shot took her just above the ear and dropped her like a rock. I have hunted with other here in slug country and watch deer take two to three body shots before getting hit with a spine shot before dropping, or will go a half mile or more before dropping from a lung or gut shot. Slug penetration's are always good ,generally going completely through, but placement is critical or you will need to track them. They seem to make it to someone else's land before dropping which can be a problem. Head and spine shots are best, bone shots are OK. Otherwise they are going some distance even with a heart or lung shot. My experience Just FYI . As far as those 3" Federals go they are going to kick like a mule. I did sight ins for a local gun shop. I also have a destroyed rotor cup I attribute to those sight ins and particularly to 12 gauge 3 inch slugs. To me they are an overkill. All the energy after the slug exit is wasted. Just my biased opinion.
Pretty much my experience as well. Lots of tracking although I did have one doe drop dead DRT.
 
Those bad boys will hammer a deer! I've shot and have seen a lot of deer shot with 12 ga 1oz slugs, they definitely work! 1 1/4 oz will definitely do the trick as well! Go sling a couple at 50 yds and see how they shoot.
 
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