UPDATE: I picked up 200 rounds of Sellier & Bellot 180 ammo. Shot all of it with only 5 failures at returning to battery. Only 1 out of the 5 jams happened with the factory magazines, the other using Cobra ones. Using the factory mag it happened on the last bullet to be fired. For the Cobra mags one jammed on the first bullet to be fired, it did appear to show markings on the bullet after inspection. The others happened on the last and second to last in mag to be fired without any signs of knicks or scratches. The factory OAL was 1.25. Yes, it appears to be my reloads, I suppose, but still there was 5 mishaps. Granted it has only successfully now had 250 rounds repeatedly shot with factory, other 100 or so with reloads. All that being said my reloads measure 1.265, but the thing that erks me is that depending on bullet/grain weight the Western Powders data OAL ranges from 1.245 to 1.26.
DW Kodiak - failure to feed
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Zaydok Allen
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My 10mm all get loaded to 1.26" also. It doesn't take much to screw up feeding. I actually had to shorten up my 45 acp rounds to get them to load properly in a particular magazine.
This. Shorter is often better when it comes to pistols and OAL simply to fit in the magazine. If you're loading your own, proper precautions should be taken to reduce the powder charge of course.
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Yes. If going below the OAL listed for a particular recipe I always consider 1 to 2/10ths of the listed max charge to be my new max.
As always, work the load up.
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Update
I just wanted to follow up to provide additional feedback on the pistol since you wanted to leave the ad up for others. CZ did not handle this appropriately.
Here is what took place on the first two RMA attempts to resolve the issue of failure to feed/return to battery. The real weird thing is on the 3rd return (see below).
1st RMA - Adjusted feeding edges
2nd RMA - Adjusted and polished the extractor and deburred the slide stop
3rd RMA? - I have sent it in on 1/4/21 and today 1/30 received a check in the mail for the original purchase price that I paid for it from a vendor online. There was no note or reference to the gun model or nothing, just the dollar value. Nothing explaining anything or even referencing the RMA.
I want the gun or an explanation on *** happened. Crazy.
I just wanted to follow up to provide additional feedback on the pistol since you wanted to leave the ad up for others. CZ did not handle this appropriately.
Here is what took place on the first two RMA attempts to resolve the issue of failure to feed/return to battery. The real weird thing is on the 3rd return (see below).
1st RMA - Adjusted feeding edges
2nd RMA - Adjusted and polished the extractor and deburred the slide stop
3rd RMA? - I have sent it in on 1/4/21 and today 1/30 received a check in the mail for the original purchase price that I paid for it from a vendor online. There was no note or reference to the gun model or nothing, just the dollar value. Nothing explaining anything or even referencing the RMA.
I want the gun or an explanation on *** happened. Crazy.
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How did they know how much you paid?
Did they cover the transfer fee?
Was there any correspondence during the two send backs?
Very strange indeed.
I wish you better luck with a new pistol.
Did they cover the transfer fee?
Was there any correspondence during the two send backs?
Very strange indeed.
I wish you better luck with a new pistol.
How did they know how much you paid? At one point I had copied the vendor I bought it from on correspondence.
Did they cover the transfer fee? I have not been contacted regarding this, only thing was a check. No transfer.
Was there any correspondence during the two send backs? Yes, they were great on communication and issuing the RMA’s.
Very strange indeed.
I wish you better luck with a new pistol.
SwampWolf
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Not so crazy, imo. If the factory doesn't seem able to fix a critical (if you intend to use the pistol for self-defense) problem after three attempts to do so, I wouldn't want the gun back and wouldn't require an "explanation" about what was wrong or how it "happened" either; I'd just consider myself damn lucky to get my money back. Count your blessings and move forward.
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Zaydok Allen
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I'm guessing they don't want internet chatter that there is a problem, and want the positive PR for just giving you your money back. Seems reasonable. Would've been nice if they covered the transfer also, but oh well. Seems an email or call asking you if you wanted the gun or the money would've been nice.
JTQ
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It's also possible, every time Dan Wesson got the gun back and tested it, at their range, with their ammo, and their shooter, the gun functioned properly.
At this point, giving a refund was probably the lowest cost option for them.
At this point, giving a refund was probably the lowest cost option for them.
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I had very similar problems with my DW almost 11 years ago now. Your gun was displaying 3 point jams, as was mine. My extractor was fine and the timing wasn't the issue. I know because I bought some replacement barrel links and experimented with them with no luck. Reducing the OAL to something very short helped, but it still wasn't 100%.
The culprit ended up being the fit between the barrel and the bushing being way too tight. The bushing was pulling the barrel forward too soon, raising the chamber before the round could slip under the extractor. When I removed some material from the barrel near the muzzle, just enough to where I could rotate the bushing by hand when the gun was assembled, it became 100% reliable. This was with all factory parts so that was certainly the culprit.
It doesn't sound like you have to worry about it anymore, but hopefully this might help someone in the future. DW makes a solid 1911, but they get carried away with everything being tightly fit and wearing together during the ridiculous break in period they recommend.
The culprit ended up being the fit between the barrel and the bushing being way too tight. The bushing was pulling the barrel forward too soon, raising the chamber before the round could slip under the extractor. When I removed some material from the barrel near the muzzle, just enough to where I could rotate the bushing by hand when the gun was assembled, it became 100% reliable. This was with all factory parts so that was certainly the culprit.
It doesn't sound like you have to worry about it anymore, but hopefully this might help someone in the future. DW makes a solid 1911, but they get carried away with everything being tightly fit and wearing together during the ridiculous break in period they recommend.
UPDATE:
I just wanted to provide feedback on my multiple RMA experience on a new Kodiak purchase.
Here is what took place on the first two RMA attempts to resolve the issue of failure to feed/return to battery. The real weird thing is on the 3rd return (see below).
1st RMA - Adjusted feeding edges (no fix)
2nd RMA - Adjusted and polished the extractor and deburred the slide stop (no fix)
3rd RMA? - I have sent it in on 1/4/21 and today 1/30 received a check in the mail for the original purchase price that I paid for it from a vendor online. There was no note or reference to the gun model or nothing, just the dollar value. Nothing explaining anything or even referencing the RMA. - ?
I want the gun or an explanation on *** happened. Crazy.
I just wanted to provide feedback on my multiple RMA experience on a new Kodiak purchase.
Here is what took place on the first two RMA attempts to resolve the issue of failure to feed/return to battery. The real weird thing is on the 3rd return (see below).
1st RMA - Adjusted feeding edges (no fix)
2nd RMA - Adjusted and polished the extractor and deburred the slide stop (no fix)
3rd RMA? - I have sent it in on 1/4/21 and today 1/30 received a check in the mail for the original purchase price that I paid for it from a vendor online. There was no note or reference to the gun model or nothing, just the dollar value. Nothing explaining anything or even referencing the RMA. - ?
I want the gun or an explanation on *** happened. Crazy.
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