Wax Gas Checks

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Has anyone ever used wax gas checks? Those were popular back in the late 1990s or early 2000 IIRC. I still have one sample sheet sent from CF Ventures or something like that.

I just ordered a one pound box of soft dental wax which is what the wax gas checks were made from. I am going to try some in my 44 mag lead bullet loads as soon as I get some bullets cast up.

You can also melt the wax scraps in a glass jar with Lacquer thinner with a little Acetone added to it to make a tumble lube for mid speed lead bullet loads.

So what are your thoughts?
 
I made my own from melted "Gulf Wax" paraffin bars years ago for .38 S&W with .358 lead bullets. Without them the undersized bullets leaded the bore something awful in a few rounds, and I mean coated thick front to back. With wax gas checks the bore stayed pristine.

The good: Works great.

The Bad: A PIA to make and load. :)
 
I tried both the CF Ventures and another brand trying to eliminate leading in a 9MM pistol. Gave up as in my case it didn’t work.
 
So I've never seen this and am curious. Are you essentially trying to treat smokeless the same as BP and just have a ton of lube in the bore to prevent leading. Color me curious
 
It seals either seals the blow by, or lubes it up so well there is no leading, dunno, but it works great.
 
AJC1 said:
So I've never seen this and am curious. Are you essentially trying to treat smokeless the same as BP and just have a ton of lube in the bore to prevent leading. Color me curious
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No its supposed to just provide a seal in the base of the bullet and will even remove previous lead fouling or so the reports said. I have my letter from CF Ventures that has the details. I will scan those in and post here in just a little bit. There were several articles written about them and Mike Venturino reported they worked well for him in his single action revolvers and the lead bullets he used.
 
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How are these applied? Any concern of them melting off the bullets base if the temperature starts getting high?
I can see these working well but my concern would be if it melted down into the powder, could cause squibs or other undesirable results.
 
Obturation said:
How are these applied? Any concern of them melting off the bullets base if the temperature starts getting high?
I can see these working well but my concern would be if it melted down into the powder, could cause squibs or other undesirable results.
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No this wax is hard enough that you don't have to worry about powder contamination. If your ammo gets hot enough to melt this wax you have other problems. If you are looking for this wax I bought it off ebay.

This is the one that I ordered. Just type in Dental Wax on ebay and there are several to choose from.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/BASE-PLATE...208891&hash=item27bf0bb9c9:g:ZkMAAOSwo3pWcPsW
 
It’s my believe the the primary source of leading is caused by gas blow by on the base of the bullet. It literally cuts the lead leaving molten droplets. Gas checks, check, prevent this gas blow. In my case I think nothing was going to stop leading in that 9mm so I don’t shoot lead in it.
 
whughett said:
It’s my believe the the primary source of leading is caused by gas blow by on the base of the bullet. It literally cuts the lead leaving molten droplets. Gas checks, check, prevent this gas blow. In my case I think nothing was going to stop leading in that 9mm so I don’t shoot lead in it.
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I load a Lee 124gr lead bullet in my 9mm guns and so far leading has not been an issue. The gun I have shot the lead bullet loads in is my S&W model 39-2. The whole point of the wax gas checks was to lessen or stop the gas blow by.
 
ThomasT said:
I load a Lee 124gr lead bullet in my 9mm guns and so far leading has not been an issue. The gun I have shot the lead bullet loads in is my S&W model 39-2. The whole point of the wax gas checks was to lessen or stop the gas blow by.
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My issue with that premise is that 35k+ is not going to be bothered by wax for a second. I might believe that a layer of wax is left behind preventing any bonding with the barrel
 
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My issue with that premise is that 35k+ is not going to be bothered by wax for a second. I might believe that a layer of wax is left behind preventing any bonding with the barrel
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Its really simple. Don't believe it, don't like it, don't try it. Wasn't that easy. But if you don't try something new you never learn. And my 9mm lead loads were just the bullet only. I don't have the wax yet to try it out. But I will try it.

Did you know that Albert Einstein would invite new students to his home for a bowl of soup and he would watch and see if they salted the soup before they tasted it and if they did he would not let them be part of his research team. The reason was that they assumed they new the answer before they ever tried the product.
 
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Yep, tried that and it worked, within three shots with wax gas checks the heavily leaded (from the same bullets no wax checks), bore was pristine and shiny, not a spec of lead.
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Thank you for validating that yes, sometimes new ideas work.:thumbup: And apparently its not a new idea. Just something that hasn't been done in a while.
 
ThomasT said:
Its really simple. Don't believe it, don't like it, don't try it. Wasn't that easy. But if you don't try something new you never learn. And my 9mm lead loads were just the bullet only. I don't have the wax yet to try it out. But I will try it.

Did you know that Albert Einstein would invite new students to his home for a bowl of soup and he would watch and see if they salted the soup before they tasted it and if they did he would not let them be part of his research team. The reason was that they assumed they new the answer before they ever tried the product.
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The funny thing is he also assumed..... how brilliant is that.
 
AJC1 said:
The funny thing is he also assumed..... how brilliant is that.
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If you don’t like the idea or don’t think it will work then why bother even responding to the thread?

The original question was who has tried the wax gas checks. If you haven’t tried them then say so and move along. You have nothing to add.
 
Used many boxes of IPCO grease wads years ago. These had colloidal graphite mixed in. No leading, but kinda made for greasy smudged up gun.
 
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