Savage Impulse?
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DocRock
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Review on OL. May be of interest
https://www.outdoorlife.com/story/guns/review-savage-impulse-straight-pull-hunting-rifle/
The plan for selling matched bolt heads and barrels to make it a multi caliber rifle is kind of interesting.
While the “review” touts Savage resolution of the extraction problem associated with straight pulls, it offers no explanation as far as I see as to why the Impulse does what other straight pulls do not.
https://www.outdoorlife.com/story/guns/review-savage-impulse-straight-pull-hunting-rifle/
The plan for selling matched bolt heads and barrels to make it a multi caliber rifle is kind of interesting.
While the “review” touts Savage resolution of the extraction problem associated with straight pulls, it offers no explanation as far as I see as to why the Impulse does what other straight pulls do not.
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Thanks DocRock, it was interesting!
I wonder if its that block think just in front of the shroud at the top of the bolt. It looks like it might actuate on the handles cam to push against the rear of the receiver......cant really tell from the pictures and diagrams, but that's the only assistance i can see from whats currently available.
sarduy
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I dont trust my face to those ball bearings over time.
Elkins45
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As a lefty I appreciate the ambidextrous feature, but as a practical matter I question if there’s really a great need for innovation in bolt action rifles. I’m really not sure if this does anything any better than the rifles I already own.
WisBorn
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I'm fairly quick with a traditional bolt myself. I wonder if it would be enough faster to get off extra shots at a group of pigs???
Elkins45
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We don’t have pigs around here so that’s not something I considered. Still, you could get a lighter and cheaper AR-10 in 308 if follow-up times were an important criteria.
OP
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Not if you break cheek weld like most of the guys in those videos! Sheesh! The operative measure of speed is not how fast you can work the action; it's how fast you can get off a second shot!
gotboostvr
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That kinda irked me too. I remember watching a video of a guy with a Blaser and an aimpoint just SMOKING a pack of wild hogs. He was running that rifle fast and just knocking this pigs down quick. That particular video kinda sold me on straight pulls.
I realize I don't need one, but would like one.
And I think this Impulse rifle is aiming forward at a time when you cannot.
Demi-human
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I concur. Savage’s videos were actually better than the reviewers’.
I’m thinking a left bolt, right port, single shot, straight pull target rifle would be pretty neat.
This rifle is very Axis like. It has a single length action, the design of the receiver allows milling the port on either side (even if they choose not to). It has the usual Savage barrel nut so there are plenty of barrel options, including short, sporter contour or fluted that (may) be available in the aftermarket to customize the rifle to one's liking. The receiver is aluminum, okay, so are the so called "modern sporting rifles" made from aluminum. If it is okay there, why not here. My main complaint, if it is one, I would have wished for controlled feed. But controlled feed often becomes an esoteric argument but still, we have our preferences.
It looks like the Savage system uses a mechanical linkage tied to the bolt handle to force the rollers out from the bolt body, meaning that the shooter will know that the gun's not in battery, just as with a traditional turnbolt, so there is that. Most bolts these days seem to have multiple holes and orifices (gas venting or other), so I dunno if the Savage will be more prone to ingesting goombah that any other design. Time will tell, I guess. They just need to get their act together and put it on the street.
I think I see a hook on that linkage that engages the back of the firing pin - I'm guessing this is to keep it from firing out of battery. Also that linkage appears to cam-over so that bolt thrust works against it.
Elkins45
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Well, maybe I’ll buy one at that time, whenever that is
Hog huntin Harry
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I don't have more to add than what other members have said, but I will say that I greatly dislike that video. Instead of telling me the specifications of the rifle it just showed some useless clips of "hunting" and told me how amazing this rifle is without actually telling me why. I don't consider the animation of the bolt being run and a couple lines of talking near enough information.
There's no such thing as a free lunch. Lifting and lowering the bolt handle on a traditional turnbolt accomplishes several tasks in an extremely mechanically efficient way, namely locking the bolt to the breech, starting initial extraction, and cocking the firing pin. That effort must now be accomplished by additional inertia applied to the bolt front to back. Straight pull actions have been around almost as long as turn bolts, and if they were significantly better to justify the additional production cost, they would be more popular than they are. I think that trying to equate them to a semi-auto is really stretching it.
As far as the cheek weld issue, it seems that the stock is designed to keep your face on the exaggerated cheek piece that is set far enough back so that the bolt won't hit it. I wonder if that will be comfortable in all shooting positions, and am thinking that shooting prone might be uncomfortable.
As far as the cheek weld issue, it seems that the stock is designed to keep your face on the exaggerated cheek piece that is set far enough back so that the bolt won't hit it. I wonder if that will be comfortable in all shooting positions, and am thinking that shooting prone might be uncomfortable.
I am not equating them to semi-auto, I am equating them to better than nothing, in the event that our choices become restricted
. Neither are lever guns equal to a semi-auto but I am not sure how many videos and threads have referred to lever guns as the cowboy assault rifle or original assault rifle. Kinda hard, takes practice, to rack the lever without loosing aim or cheek weld, but seems a few people can manage. It is good to have interesting new products to talk about, some people will decide that the rifle has advantages for them, others may not. And that is completely the way it should be. At least Savage is not boring.I want a new one of those chambered for mini cartridges.......
troy fairweather
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I've always wanted to do one in 7.62x39, shouldn't be to difficult.
js8588
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The Savage trigger is better than the Mossberg version. Wanted a Mossberg Patriot Revere until I got to handle one at a trade show last year. I couldn't live with that trigger.
troy fairweather
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Anyone see if the ball bearings lock into the aluminum receiver, wouldn't think that would be good. Maybe they have a pressed in steel collar, can't be in the barrel. I don't like how they seem to be targeting the long range hunters all we need are guys popping off shots faster at longer ranges on game that aren't ethical.
haven't played with the Mossy version besides getting a stuck round out of a guys .308. Didnt seem bad to me.
What i don't like about the savage version is that its a sear catch, not trigger blocking safety.....My trigger fingers crooked so its really hard for me to not put side pressure on a trigger unless im paying a lot of attention or lay my thumb along the side of the stock. I've dropped the sear on the safety ledge a bunch of times.
I remember reading or hearing barrel extension. You wouldn't want to have a swap barrel gun with 1-20 threads screwing into an aluminum receiver either i don't think.
So i went and looked at the diagram video and its LOOKs like there is an extension held in by screws.....also looks like it uses savages universal magazine body.
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