Unpopular or unconventional opinions thread.

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I don’t think “modern bullets” are all that modern. In my lifetime (40 yrs) there have been plenty of good bullet choices no different than today yet the idea of modern bullets seem to be a thing of the last decade or so. The idea of modern bullets also tend to empower folks to use much lighter weapons than I deem responsible.

Youth only hunting seasons and regs. They started becoming a thing right after I was young enough to qualify for them and they have been irking me ever since. I did it the way everyone else did so you can too. It doesn’t help more people get into hunting it just gets them success earlier because there is a marked advantage. Smells like a participation award nearly. They would have gotten into hunting or not anyway based on their background and upbringing. I don’t have kids though so maybe I’m missing something because of that.
 
Lineman65 said:
I’ve been a Pennsylvania hunter for a lot of years now, and you’re right on the mark. My son and his friends are very enthusiastic about hunting, which is becoming vanishingly rare among 17 year olds. I can’t get over the way the local game warden treats them like a bunch of potential criminals.
The same knucklehead has decided that, no matter the legality of using feeders, he just doesn’t like them or those who use them. I hope it’s just the local guy, but I’ve never heard of nor seen a more jumped-up excuse for a law enforcement officer.
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I'm sorry this is your experience but I'm genuinely surprised by how much support my post got.

People up here are so frustrated with the game commission and I wasn't expecting this much support from the forum on it.
 
There is no functional difference between the service calibers, 9mm 40 s&w 45acp and 38 special, all are about the same power and lethality. Just pick a platform that you want to use and go from there.

The 40 is kinda useless, it doesn't do anything better than anything else.

Pistol caliber carbines are spectacular home defence tools and people sleep on them.

The Judge is the most useless pistol to ever exist and 410 is incredibly anemic in a pistol.
 
IMHO if there is some sort of calamity/societal breakdown/invasion/civil war/something even worse than this pandemic there will be no ammo/spare parts/repair available. Best back up plan involves duplicate firearms, a good stash of ammo, plenty of spare parts-and manuals and tools.
I dislike the idea of "unpopular" opinions, rather, there are personal tastes and preferences. Jack O'Connor and the .270 Winchester, Jeff Cooper and the 45 ACP, Elmer Keith and his big bores, Skeeter Skelton and the 44 Special come to mind.
 
Antihero said:
There is no functional difference between the service calibers, 9mm 40 s&w 45acp and 38 special, all are about the same power and lethality. Just pick a platform that you want to use and go from there.

The 40 is kinda useless, it doesn't do anything better than anything else.

Pistol caliber carbines are spectacular home defence tools and people sleep on them.

The Judge is the most useless pistol to ever exist and 410 is incredibly anemic in a pistol.
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illinoisburt said:
Like button is insufficient for this one! 100% thumbs up!
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Always wondered why they don't get more love in that regard. They're incredibly fun as range toys too.
 
Trashyshoots said:
The saying "a pistol is only for getting to your rifle" imo is a coping mechanism for being a lousy pistol shot. Train harder, get better, shoot longer distances, it will help your pistol game.
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If you analyze that (i.e. overthink it), it doesn't even make sense. If your rifle is so darn important, why wasn't it with you in the first place? And if you successfully fight your way to your rifle using your pistol, why did you need the rifle?
 
Phaedrus/69 said:
I think it's important to push back because it's important that words still mean something. For example the previous administration banned bump stocks by calling them machine guns. But the phrase "machine gun" has a precise legal & technical definition written into the language of the statutes. Fortunately it appears that it was overturned by the courts earlier today, probably because of that exact reason. So whether it's colloquially by the media or in ill-considered executive orders I think we have to hold the line and insist that wishful thinking doesn't make something into something else.
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It’s true, as I definitely buy into the “words have meaning” concept as well. I just think we’re wasting energy on arguing the wrong point.

The definitional work (assault rifle vs not) is interesting to us. But what they mean (as we all understand it) is high cap mag fed semiautos.

We can win the argument that such weapons aren’t technically assault weapons and still have such weapons outlawed. I would say that we “lost the argument” in this case.

I think we should be using our energy to convince that such rifles have a place in civilized society.

illinoisburt said:
I do agree that words have meaning, but the whole assault rifle moniker truly was created and liberally applied by our industry for at least a decade or more specifically referring to semi-auto military style rifles. Assault Weapons I believe was a media/politician invented term which seemed to come into being to rope in pistols like the much feared Tech9 and cylinder style shotguns in the early 1990s news programs. It was only after the AWB that some people on our side began laying off the AR title. There was still some in the industry making the point of "post-ban assault rifles" until it finally got through people's noggins the public was well bought into the news media coverage making the label evil. It went quiet for a while and we had a rebirth of interest in the guns after 2001 and the subsequent AWB sunset. I think our industry terminology rewrite truly happened around the time of the Zumbo kerfluffle. The old guard of traditional hunting writers had to eat crow and start extolling the virtues of what is now the MSR and people began saying a true AR meant select fire.

Saying all this does not change my opinion on magazine semi auto rifles. I like them a lot and own/shot many different versions for a long time pre-/during/post-AWB on through today. Just cringe a little when I hear people play word jenga with AR knowing anyone with a little Google time can prove you wrong. I suspect it makes us look deceitful or arrogant to non-supporters (antis don't care as it is).
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Agreed, focusing on the word jenga can be counterproductive I think.
 
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John_R said:
My unpopular opinion of the day: Budweiser isn't all that bad.
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It's the perfect mowing the lawn, changing the oil in the car beer on a hot day. IPA's are just wasted on auto repair.
 
How bout the classic, “you can shoot a person in the arm with a 45acp and he’ll go down”. And “FMJ ammo is not good for self-defense” (when that is pretty much all our military has used in all modern wars! I guess they got it wrong for over 100 years, LOL!)
 
imac98374 said:
It’s true, as I definitely buy into the “words have meaning” concept as well. I just think we’re wasting energy on arguing the wrong point.

The definitional work assault rifle vs not is interesting to us. But what they mean (as we all understand it) is high cap mag fed semiautos.
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Maybe we need to argue a little; what you call a "high cap mag" is a standard capacity magazine. Language drives how we think about things so we should carefully consider how the language is used.
 
The military uses FMJ ammo to comply with the various Geneva and Hague Conventions. Conversely there is no restriction in the military about shooting a fleeing enemy, or shooting him in the back.
 
My "unpopular" or "unconventional" opinion #2 (at least for this thread):

Deeply blued rifles with fancy, rich walnut (or any other type of wood) stocks don’t do anything for me. My custom .308 Norma Mag is bead-blasted stainless with a granite-grey synthetic stock because I ordered it that way. And the new .257 Weatherby Mag I’ve decided I’d like to have before deer season gets here this year will be Cerekoted with a synthetic stock - or I won’t have it.;)
I’m pretty much the same way about shotguns and handguns. Although, I’d kinda like to own a chrome 1911 .38 Super - just because. I wouldn’t even mind if it was engraved, as long as the engraving was tasteful. Of course I’d decide what “tasteful” means.:neener:
 
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Phaedrus/69 said:
Maybe we need to argue a little; what you call a "high cap mag" is a standard capacity magazine. Language drives how we think about things so we should carefully consider how the language is used.
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Fair point - “high” is pretty arbitrary, but since we’re loosely talking about legislation/bans, we can draw from previous legislation, where 10 rounds seems like the number that is most commonly chosen.

And this is another one where you could win the argument that high cap mag is a misnomer, and they could pivot to “high cap weapon system” or “platform”, be more correct, and again be no closer to agreeing that magazines over 10 rds should be legal, which is what we should be arguing about. (IMHO)
 
swg1 said:
It's the perfect mowing the lawn, changing the oil in the car beer on a hot day. IPA's are just wasted on auto repair.
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I prefer Coors light or Miller High Life for tasks like that.

Then again I don't like IPAs, which is apparently an unpopular opinion amongst "beer people". Much prefer porters and stouts, our home brew vanilla bean chocolate rye porter is a particular crowd pleaser.
 
JR24 said:
I prefer Coors light or Miller High Life for tasks like that.

Then again I don't like IPAs, which is apparently an unpopular opinion amongst "beer people". Much prefer porters and stouts, our home brew vanilla bean chocolate rye porter is a particular crowd pleaser.
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IPAs are terrible and taste like people that really hate beer think beer should taste like.

Personally I like Pub Beer for hot days rather than Bud
 
swg1 said:
To be honest, I drink very little beer, preferring the peasant liquors. I drink gin.

Gin -- there is an unpopular option alright.

Oh, and I like black licorice.
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These days I drink probably one, maybe two beers a month.

Mostly I drink brandy or burbon.
 
Godless heathen I say! ;)

Actually I hear ya there, while I do appreciate fine walnut and blue steel, when I venture out to hunt in the rain forest jungle of the Olympic Peninsula, it's all stainless and plastic.

Unless it is early season and no chance of rain. Then I'll march about the woods with a drilling.

.308 Norma said:
My "unpopular" or "unconventional" opinion #2 (at least for this thread):

Deeply blued rifles with fancy, rich walnut (or any other type of wood) stocks don’t do anything for me. My custom .308 Norma Mag is bead-blasted stainless with a granite-grey synthetic stock because I ordered it that way. And the new .257 Weatherby Mag I’ve decided I’d like to have before deer season gets here this year will be Cerekoted with a synthetic stock - or I won’t have it.;)
I’m pretty much the same way about shotguns and handguns. Although, I’d kinda like to own a chrome 1911 .38 Super - just because. I wouldn’t even mind if it was engraved, as long as the engraving was tasteful. Of course I’d decide what “tasteful” means.:neener:
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swg1 said:
Godless heathen I say! ;)

Actually I hear ya there, while I do appreciate fine walnut and blue steel, when I venture out to hunt in the rain forest jungle of the Olympic Peninsula, it's all stainless and plastic.

Unless it is early season and no chance of rain. Then I'll march about the woods with a drilling.
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I learned that lesson on the tundra of Alaska. Stainless and plastic is fine for a working gun.
 
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