Unpopular or unconventional opinions thread.

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Here’s something that’s going to be unpopular. I like the game wardens that work the area that includes our hunt club. They’ve been nothing but helpful for the last 20+ years and I believe I speak for all of our members. Perhaps it’s because we’ve worked together and treated each other respectfully. We’ve shared meals and hunted together. While some of the recent regulation changes have hurt us tremendously, we don’t blame the wardens.

My game warden at home (I live in a different state from my club) has always been friendly and helpful. He’s offered advice and help on planning food plots and has gotten me a special permit under some difficult circumstances.

Admittedly virtually all my hunting is on private land and I’m sure that’s a factor.
 
illinoisburt said:
Like button is insufficient for this one! 100% thumbs up!
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It's really kinda shocking really.

No recoil, a proven round that has another 100-300fps, and in a platform that makes for better accuracy.....what's not to like?

I've taught people how to shoot with my 10mm AR and 9mm Hi Point Carbine a few times
 
.308 Norma said:
My "unpopular" or "unconventional" opinion #2 (at least for this thread):

Deeply blued rifles with fancy, rich walnut (or any other type of wood) stocks don’t do anything for me. My custom .308 Norma Mag is bead-blasted stainless with a granite-grey synthetic stock because I ordered it that way. And the new .257 Weatherby Mag I’ve decided I’d like to have before deer season gets here this year will be Cerekoted with a synthetic stock - or I won’t have it.;)
I’m pretty much the same way about shotguns and handguns. Although, I’d kinda like to own a chrome 1911 .38 Super - just because. I wouldn’t even mind if it was engraved, as long as the engraving was tasteful. Of course I’d decide what “tasteful” means.:neener:
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“Weatherproof” (at least mostly) stainless steel firearms with synthetic stocks/grips is just common sense if you spend any length of time outdoors. Minimal maintenance can be a bonus if you live/hunt in an environment where other matters may be more important. Yes, if I have the leisure, and I occasionally hunt for a few hours at a time from a covered stand, or a few minutes from my house, I might own an expensive, perfectly blued gun with exotic walnut furniture. I don’t. I need a stainless steel firearm with synthetic, weather-resistant hardware. Functional/practical will defeat handsome/pretty any day...
 
BLACKHAWKNJ said:
The military uses FMJ ammo to comply with the various Geneva and Hague Conventions. Conversely there is no restriction in the military about shooting a fleeing enemy, or shooting him in the back.
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I know that, thanks. That was not my point. FMJ will kill, and is not just good for “target ammo” was my point. I am USA retired. I’ve seen FMJ kill first-hand. Thanks for trying to educate me though
 
1911 guy said:
Only somewhat contrarian, I think full auto fire is vastly overrated. It has only a small number of uses and I'm unlikely to be in any of those situations ever again. But I still think we aught to be able to just because.
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I think it would be nice if it was legal again but I don't have much interest in having a FA gun myself. Maybe an MP5SD with a 3-shot burst would be cool. It's expensive enough keeping ammo for a semi auto!
 
James Fonteneaux said:
6.5 Creedmoor is not the ultimate rifle caliber.
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A freaking men. Why does nobody know about the OG 6.5 caliber, the 6.5x55 Swede? Its been kicking moose, nazi, and commie butt in scandinavia for over a century and still is very popular over there to this day. I may be a bit biased as my sig let's you know but I love the old school calibers way better lol.
 
Antihero said:
I remember reading a thread about an older gentleman on a forum that was worried about break ins and had very very limited money.

He had an Enfield and 2 boxes of ammo and was asking if it could effectively protect his house and his family. He lived in the middle of nowhere, miles from anyone and it was just him and his wife, both were in their 70s and on a fixed income low enough that buying a box of ammo to practice with was something he could do once a month and only the one box at a time.

The popular consensus was to sell the Enfield and get himself a cheap pistol. Hi points were thrown around a lot as his best possible option. One person said this gem :

" That rifle wasn't really made to take on human targets, not really at least"

A battle rifle, from ww2 .........not made for human targets. Suuuuurrrreeee
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Didn't the germans think they were under fire from machine guns from the highly trained squads of Brits rapidly getting accurate shots off with their enfields? Idk but I've always heard this repeated so I wanted to ask if this was true. And I know I would hate to get hit center mass with a 303 British round at any range.
 
I had a very lightly sporterized 6.6 Swede (it still had the bayonet:cool:) that I let my dad buy from me. I've regretted it for the last fifteen years. It was old and beat up but a real tack driver.
 
imac98374 said:
Fair point - “high” is pretty arbitrary, but since we’re loosely talking about legislation/bans, we can draw from previous legislation, where 10 rounds seems like the number that is most commonly chosen.

And this is another one where you could win the argument that high cap mag is a misnomer, and they could pivot to “high cap weapon system” or “platform”, be more correct, and again be no closer to agreeing that magazines over 10 rds should be legal, which is what we should be arguing about. (IMHO)
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I really hope I'm not coming across as argumentative because that's not my aim, and I expect we probably have similar view on the 2nd A. But circling back to this, SCOTUS has thrown around the phrase "in common use" and that's why we need to stand by correct use of language and terms. I'll grant you that anti-gun folks get more incensed as the guns get more "evil" looking and the mags get bigger. But since the 30 round mag in the AR is the standard magazine our case has to be aimed at the courts, not just public opinion. We can't let the real issues get distracted by inflammatory and inaccurate language.
 
270OKIE said:
Didn't the germans think they were under fire from machine guns from the highly trained squads of Brits rapidly getting accurate shots off with their enfields? Idk but I've always heard this repeated so I wanted to ask if this was true. And I know I would hate to get hit center mass with a 303 British round at any range.
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I've heard it too.

The thing is, it's the opposite of everything that people think they need and trends. The guy pretty much had the best situation for it too by already owning it and being miles away from anyone means you don't have to worry about over penetrating. Plus......I guarantee that Enfield rifles have shot more people than any hi point ever.

I own an Enfield and a hi point pistol. There are very few situations that the Enfield wouldn't be my choice, CCW or having to fire from my car while driving us pretty much it and frankly I'd try really hard to make the Enfield work with those before admitting defeat
 
NIGHTLORD40K:

My M&P .22 handgun (standard length) and Ruger Mark IV .22 had both been fairly unreliable with Federal bulk range ammo.

Careful shortening of the recoil springs made them 100 percent reliable with the cheaper ammo.
 
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I like YouTube Gun Channels featuring attractive young ladies such as 50calVal (Mark Serbu’s daughter) and BunnyHunter. “Social”media doesn’t interest me-never tried it.

No apologies or appeasement from me, for enjoying women’s voices and looks.
 
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Phaedrus/69 said:
  • Open carry of handguns is foolish. Open carry of rifles borders on mental retardation.
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100%. How do we let them know. I always think of the G.I. Joe theme song "he'll fight for freedom wherever there's trouble, real American hero, G.I Joeeeeeee......."

I know I hate it, the rifles are a symptom of a severe retardation.

I had to have a difficult conversation with a friend of mine who insisted on open carry when he first bought a gun, anywhere we went he was like "you coming in" I'm like "nope, I'll wait in the car". I finally had to tell him I felt like a I was holding up a neon idiot sign walking next to him and that it made me uncomfortable in the extreme.... I was like dude, you don't realize everybody looks right at us wherever we go, as soon as they clock the piece? Yeah man, not for me.... it didn't help that my buddy, through no fault of his own just had a shady look to him....
 
DustyGmt said:
100%. How do we let them know. I always think of the G.I. Joe theme song "he'll fight for freedom wherever there's trouble, real American hero, G.I Joeeeeeee......."

I know I hate it, the rifles are a symptom of a severe retardation.

I had to have a difficult conversation with a friend of mine who insisted on open carry when he first bought a gun, anywhere we went he was like "you coming in" I'm like "nope, I'll wait in the car". I finally had to tell him I felt like a I was holding up a neon idiot sign walking next to him and that it made me uncomfortable in the extreme.... I was like dude, you don't realize everybody looks right at us wherever we go, as soon as they clock the piece? Yeah man, not for me.... it didn't help that my buddy, through no fault of his own just had a shady look to him....
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Seems a bit sensitive. I wouldn't have liked that either but I would have been up front about why or just dealt with it. Unless his general shadiness made you uncomfortable with him armed at all I suppose (but from context it seems you'd be fine if he concealed?).

I do agree, to a point. I don't like open carrying in most social situations and certainly don't approve of going all Tactical Tommy to prove a point or get a reaction from the local LEO.

But I'll open carry in the woods and leave it on if I have to hit a store on the drive home, or doing yardwork or whatever.

Back when I lived in AK it was quite common to open carry a revolver in town if you were going on the river, or a slung rifle through town on the snowmachine. Nobody cared. So it's not a binary NEVER/ALWAYS thing, just a read the room kinda thing, for me.

And why, more and more, do we all have to resort to insults the instant someone does something we dislike. Been seeing it more and more even here, it's sad that we can't have a discussion without generalized insults in this world anymore.
 
JR24 said:
Seems a bit sensitive. I wouldn't have liked that either but I would have been up front about why or just dealt with it. Unless his general shadiness made you uncomfortable with him armed at all I suppose (but from context it seems you'd be fine if he concealed?).

I do agree, to a point. I don't like open carrying in most social situations and certainly don't approve of going all Tactical Tommy to prove a point or get a reaction from the local LEO.

But I'll open carry in the woods and leave it on if I have to hit a store on the drive home, or doing yardwork or whatever.

Back when I lived in AK it was quite common to open carry a revolver in town if you were going on the river, or a slung rifle through town on the snowmachine. Nobody cared. So it's not a binary NEVER/ALWAYS thing, just a read the room kinda thing, for me.

And why, more and more, do we all have to resort to insults the instant someone does something we dislike. Been seeing it more and more even here, it's sad that we can't have a discussion without generalized insults in this world anymore.
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I realize how it sounds, but his overall demeanor and mode of dress made it kind of a spectacle. I feel like nobody would look twice at a Sam Elliot type OC, but hip hop Harry, flat brim cap, etc...nah
 
Antihero said:
IPAs are terrible and taste like people that really hate beer think beer should taste like.
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As a long time fan of ales I am very thankful that your's is an unpopular opinion. It is a good time for us ale drinkers after many years of drought.
 
Energy is only useful as a marketing tool to sell velocity.

There is no .45 Long Colt, there is only .45Colt.

The .45Colt does not outperform the .44Mag until you reach the custom five-shot level (50-55,000psi). Linebaugh dissolved some myths but created others.

Describing a firearm's chambering as ".38/.357" caters to the ignorant. To the rest of us, it is redundant and insulting.

Shooting competition is not the be-all, end-all of human existence.

No gun is "too nice" to shoot, carry, hunt with or get dinged up.
 
Trashyshoots said:
These can be lot of fun on forums. This thread is ment to be lighthearted and not a mud slinging angerstorm if someone doesnt agree with you. Hence the thread name. Curious what your unconventional opinions are.

I'll start.
If someone is looking at getting into long range shooting, in my opinion, they should start with a .22. Bad windage calls can make or break you when shooting long distance. Buy a solid .22 rifle and as high end of a scope as you can afford. Once you can make reliable hits at 300 you will be well on your way to a competent distance shooter. And that nice scope will slide over to your new centerfire rifle when you're ready.

Red dots on pistols are incredible. Maybe not on your CC piece, but on any handgun that's a range toy they cannot be beat.

ARs are boring. I get why they're the most popular rifle in America, but they're snoozefests for me.

All polymer pistols are boring, and feel like toys.

Never ever settle on a rifle or pistol due to cost. The cost of ammo you put through it will greatly exceed the cost of the firearm.

1911s are the best pistols on the market, and are worth every downside. Yes, they're dated, yes they're expensive, but a dialed in 1911 is better than any other pistol.

High end scopes are worth every penny.

Precision based shooting sports are vastly superior to run and gun high speed low drag tomfoolery.

Precision air guns are perfect ways to keep your skills sharp. As are .22s

Subsonic 300blk is a sweet precision round.
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So many truths in your

CDW4ME said:
My philosophy is foreign for many:
"Strive to carry the handgun you would want anywhere, everywhere; forget that good area bullcrap."
Whatever pistol is carried in GreaterAnticipatedThreatville, strive to carry that in GoodAreaville.

Often posted is carrying a pocket 32/380/38 (by choice) in a "good area" but larger elsewhere. (Limited by work clothes is not by choice)
Common replies likely be "at least you're carrying" or "its better than nothing".

I'll be the one to say, "better than nothing" is not a criteria that should be used by choice.
Of the concealable pistols owned, what would be preferred in hand? Strive to carry that.
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Good advice (that I don’t follow). Also: stick with one, best, ccw because that way, your “panic mode” has only ONE draw stroke taking up space in its mind.
 
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