First attempt at lubed bullets
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Looks good! Looking forward to a range report.
It's blowing 15 mph.Looks good! Looking forward to a range report.
I shot 3 at 50 yards into an inch.
Rifle is a P-17 in 300WM. Load is 10 gr of titewad.
Sounds like a good plinking, or small game load. Lots of fun!
sparkyv
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Nice! Very rewarding, I'm sure.
Swampman
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How are you applying the lube?
I attempted pan lubing. But it was a failure. So I used a rubber glove and Lee sizer.
Swampman
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Does the lube set up or harden at all?
You may want to consider dusting them with motor mica if you're leaving lube on exposed parts of the bullet.
You may want to consider dusting them with motor mica if you're leaving lube on exposed parts of the bullet.
Is this what you're referring to?
https://www.ballisticproducts.com/mobile/Mica-Wad-Slick-8-oz-jar/productinfo/MICA/
Hondo 60
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Your lube job looks good.
Rooster lube works well for me. (kinda watery)
https://roosterlab.us/products/
Put some in a bowl', swirl it around, dump excess thru a screen back into the bottle & let 'em dry.
Or do similar to Lee's Alox lube (more of a thick waxy lube)
Use just a touch of alox
Rooster lube works well for me. (kinda watery)
https://roosterlab.us/products/
Put some in a bowl', swirl it around, dump excess thru a screen back into the bottle & let 'em dry.
Or do similar to Lee's Alox lube (more of a thick waxy lube)
Use just a touch of alox
Swampman
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I've used both engine assembly mica and the Frankford Arsenal equivalent (which seems to be discontinued). I'm sure the product you linked would be pretty much identical.
I've had really good luck lubing rifle bullets with White Label Lube's liquid Xlox and 45-45-10/Deluxe Liquid Xlox. The Xlox is identical to Lee Liquid Alox, but way cheaper.
The 45-45-10 is a commercial variant of "Recluse Lube" from the Cast Boolits site. It dries to a hard, waxy finish that won't attract dust or lint like the straight Alox version.
I love Rooster Lube for .45 ACP, but I haven't had good luck with it in rifle loads. Even at subsonic speeds it tends to leave lead streaks starting @ halfway down the bore.
My preferred method for rifle bullets nowadays is powder coating, followed by a light tumble lube with 45-45-10.
The lube hardens to a waxy consistency. It seems so work. But I need to run a chrono and start working my way through powder burn rate
I almost tried alox. But the research I did said the lube I made should get me up around 2000 without leading.
I used high temp wheel bearing grease instead of cheap lithium.
I have started using powder coat also. It's kind of temping.
Barbaroja
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Pan lubing is what pushed me to get into powder coating. I was using a mix of paraffin wax and petroleum jelly with a little carnuba wax in the mix to stiffen it slightly. Works great. Downside is I find it to be messy. Powder coating takes about the same amount of time if your anal about stuff like me, but far less trouble in the long run for me.
Plain `ol oven-dried ALOX does great up to 2,500 in my AR-15.
https://castboolits.gunloads.com/sh...llets-w-ar15&p=4472544&viewfull=1#post4472544
and at least 2,000-2,200 out of the 30 calibers
https://thefiringline.com/forums/showpost.php?p=6790011&postcount=8
https://thefiringline.com/forums/showpost.php?p=6645327&postcount=8
I think your limiting factor's going to be the plain base exposure.
If it is. I've been looking at a plain base gas check maker.
I'm going to see how it does for 50 rounds of titewad before I make any changes.
243winxb
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My thoughts also.
Should be fine at 10 grs?
Light & slow plinking loads only. Plus the lube groove is to low on the bullet. Imo. I would coat some with Alox, as a test to see it it matters?
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243winxb
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What powder is used to get to these velocities? Something slower like H4895? Using a GC .
Just asking to learn.
I don't know yet. I'm going to start with titewad. Then step to 2400 or imr4227.
I'm nervous about kapok, shot shell buffer, etc.
Powders? Depends on cartridge (which I don't think has been mentioned yet) (?)
See
https://thefiringline.com/forums/showpost.php?p=6790011&postcount=8
https://thefiringline.com/forums/showpost.php?p=6645327&postcount=8
See
https://thefiringline.com/forums/showpost.php?p=6790011&postcount=8
https://thefiringline.com/forums/showpost.php?p=6645327&postcount=8
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Swampman
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I wouldn't get too hung up on pushing cast bullets super fast.
1700 to 1900 fps combined with a heavy bullet, hollowpoint and (reasonably) soft alloy will give very effective terminal performance at the distances where I do most of my hunting.
If I'm planning to hunt powerlines or big meadows, I just use jacketed bullets pushed at much higher velocities.
1700 to 1900 fps combined with a heavy bullet, hollowpoint and (reasonably) soft alloy will give very effective terminal performance at the distances where I do most of my hunting.
If I'm planning to hunt powerlines or big meadows, I just use jacketed bullets pushed at much higher velocities.
It's a 300 Win Mag. I have a Krag I'm going to load for as soon as I know my casting and lube are up to the job.
Wouldn't that put me at risk of the secondary explosion event magnums are known for when reducing slow powders.
I'd be tempted to try 50 bmg powder.
I ran QuickLoad for balance of case fill, best burn, 2,000fps, ~20,000psi for a 300WM/200gr bullet/24"
This came out top:
RETUMBO
81% Fill
19,000psi
78% Burn
2,000 fps
Powders are not just all about starting "Burn Rate"
50BMG "could" be used, but you'd throw 40% of powder out of the muzzle unburned
This came out top:
RETUMBO
81% Fill
19,000psi
78% Burn
2,000 fps
Powders are not just all about starting "Burn Rate"
50BMG "could" be used, but you'd throw 40% of powder out of the muzzle unburned
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