45-70 loads (not traditional load info)

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dh1633pm said:
I just went to the basement and picked out one from the box. It was 2.5845 which is shorter than yours. Others in the box about the same. My ammo is at least six or so years old. It was given to me by a policeman who I shared some homemade beer with and some .308 ammo that I had. His daughter and mine were friends at school. Very nice guy. I wonder if they make them longer these days.
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That is the FTX you measured? Would you have a lot# of them?
 
Sparkee said:
the attempt to cycle the tip catches just below the barrel entry and then I have to jiggle the lever to hopefully pop it up to put it in the battery.
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Sparkee said:
Charlie, The black ones are the silver tip manufactured by nosler, the other ones are some of the Hornady FTX's I have modified slightly and don't like doing it.
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Sparkee said:
Last time I talked to Ruger, they did buy the Marlin name and manufacturing equipment, but I don't know if they're going to honor any of previous warranty info and they're not going to start making guns until 4th quarter this year.
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I loaded some long .41 Keith-style bullets for my Marlin 1894, longer than the normal bullet I use; it's true, every cycle I had to 'muzzle up' and give the lever a little love jiggle to get the cartridge back far enough on the carrier to lift it into the chamber. I had never had issues with feeding in any of my Marlins until then, even with very blunt, wide meplat bullets... so OAL does matter.

My original thought was they used Leverlution powder... but my quick research told me they probably don't, and I see I'm not alone.

You would have to put a death-grip crimp on those Nosler bullets to get them to hold, seating them so far above the cannelure... and I would still be afraid they would move. I still kind of think popping them loose from the crimp and reseating them would work... we are only talking .070" or thereabouts.

I needed to contact 'Marlin' about a repair part for my 1894... they, Ruger, are not even fielding questions or requests about Marlins right now, and for some time it looks like.
 
GeoDudeFlorida said:
They may not load .45-70 with LeveRevolution powder anymore.
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I do not think Hornady ever used the LR powder with the LR .45-70. I have never tried to call Hornady and ask because as much as I like the .30-30 LR ammo and I do enjoy the LR powder for .30-30 reloading, I have never had any interest in it for .45-70.

Unless you have information I have not found, you have an unknown powder, in a short case and you are wanting to shoot modified bullets. I recommend against this.

As to Ruger repairing rifles made by JM or REP, I would not hold my breath on that. I doubt that ever happens. I wish I would be wrong on that, but I probably am not.
 
3Crows said:
I do not think Hornady ever used the LR powder with the LR .45-70. I have never tried to call Hornady and ask because as much as I like the .30-30 LR ammo and I do enjoy the LR powder for .30-30 reloading, I have never had any interest in it for .45-70.

Unless you have information I have not found, you have an unknown powder, in a short case and you are wanting to shoot modified bullets. I recommend against this.

As to Ruger repairing rifles made by JM or REP, I would not hold my breath on that. I doubt that ever happens. I wish I would be wrong on that, but I probably am not.
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Ditto here. I've always preferred 3031 or 4895. I have 4064 in the stable at all times too and I know some folks prefer it for "hot-n-heavy" .45-70 loads but, to me, the old reliable low-p 405/40gr. load of hard lead and 3031 that's been around since IMR 3031 and Ideal/Lyman manuals came out works just fine. It hasn't failed to stop anything it's hit, so far. :)
 
Well I just got off the phone with Hornady, explained the issues and they're going to give me a warranty label they want me to send a box of the ammo in so they can send it into engineering and verify it. they even thought too with just the minut difference shouldn't be that much of a concern but I have seen on other forms I'm not the only one with this issue. They sent me a prepaid label they'll cover all the shipping they'll figure it out and if they have to buy it back they said they can or I may just sell it outright myself or just tear them down until I can get powder and build my own. I'd like to use h-4198 as a powder for it if I load my own.
as far as Ruger taken care of Marlin warranty issues I know ruger's customer service is phenomenal, but it may take some time for them to get a little more familiar with the firearms before they start doing any warranty repairs. On that note I've had two different gunsmiths look at my Marlin and said that there is nothing wrong with it.
 
Sparkee said:
Just got off the phone with Hornady today, engineering measure that lot number all the ammunition I had I sent to them. They said 90% of it was consistently out of spec or too long. So they're shipping me new ammo.
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Glad I was wrong about it being your gun. I just flat had more trust in Hornady than Marlin/Remington.
 
There is a magazine follower for the 45-70 and 444 to allow those bullets. (I've read. I have the 444 old Marlin, marked 336-444, and flex tip Leverevolutions won't feed in it either. Just gotta get around to ordering it. Midway, IIRC, had them
 
My Marlin is new enough it already has the correct follower in the tube, but in any note they even said if there's ever any questions about their ammunition and specifications they would love to know about it. Who knows maybe they'll issue a recall for that batch.
 
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