Opinions: brakes on 7.62x39 AR.

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So I've got my AR built. It came with a basic birdcage flash hider on it, which I haven't used before--and haven't had the chance to use yet here.
Since I'm still in 'building mode' I'm considering tossing an inexpensive brake on it.

I've used cheap AK-74-style ebay brakes on my AK and been happy with them. Louder, sure, but it's backheavy and there's no other way to adjust the recoil impulse at all. Essentially everything inside slams back and forth as it will and there's nothing you can do to change that. I'm not a big guy (I gained weight recently and hit 140) so just a little braking effect and putting a few ounces at the muzzle to shift the balance mitigates things and just make it feel better.

But I've heard the AR is a little easier there, or can be made so. But I kind of don't want to spend another $100 on a chunk of metal, or add too much weight or length compared to the basic flash hider. And IMO the flash hider is the right look for an AR.

So, opinions, would a really basic, inexpensive brake make much of a difference on a billet-uppered, heavy-barreled x39 AR? Enough to deal with a little loss of flash-hiding?
Or is it really just not much worse than .223 and I've been away from the intermediate rounds long enough my brain is overreacting and remembering too far toward the x54r side?
 
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Nope.

You might feel the weight/balance difference but x39 is not a beast that needs tamed with a brake. I think its more pleasant to shoot than .223 because its lower pressure and less concussive but maybe its just me.
 
I’m weird but I actually enjoy the increased recoil impulse the x39 gives me, but without the concussion effects. I feel like I’m not even shooting anything with the 556 in regards to recoil but the blast sure is noticed. 556 obviously has benefits of controllability and faster split times on targets.

I guess if I was going to put a brake on an AR47 it would be the “Epsilon AK VG6”
 
You might feel the weight/balance difference but x39 is not a beast that needs tamed with a brake.

See, I think that's what most of the problem is. It's probably not the recoil itself, it's the balance and shift in weight during the action. My AK is weighted on or behind center, and then the weight all comes back to the trigger hand. That makes it pretty noticeable and makes a definite 'pivot point.'
My AR has a heavy barrel and the lighter weight of the internals will be moving back into the stock to my shoulder, not my hand.
That might not be noticeable, but could have an effect. I just haven't had a chance for a side-by-side comparison yet.


I’m weird but I actually enjoy the increased recoil impulse the x39 gives me, but without the concussion effects.

I feel the same, at the range bench. I very much enjoy my Mosin Nagant, for instance. It makes my shoulder look worse than it really is. :D
But if I do get the chance to do some 3-gun or hunt, I'd like to mitigate both.

Until then I guess I could just compare them and shoot both to test, if you twist my arm...
 
My AR has a heavy barrel
Then it’s either going to be front heavy, or you’re going to have to add weight to the rear for balance. One benefit of an H-bar is it decreases muzzle climb which should allow you to reaquire your target faster. The x39 in an AR platform, is a pussycat.

I have a 24” H-bar 5.56 AR. I can maintain my target in my scope with every shot. C0995C8C-9256-4864-863B-768EE62968D3.jpeg
 

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If you have enjoyed brakes on your other firearms... I would certainly suggest you try one on your AR in7.62x39.

Make sure you order one with the correct threads.

Another thought would be a heavier buffer weight and/or stronger recoil spring.

There are also "softer" buffer bumper pads sold.
 
Well, the one I was looking at is cheap, and looks pretty close to the standard flash hider. Which I like. Won't hurt my wallet even if I decide against it. Doesn't need to be the world's most effective brake, just a little to help offset anything that's a problem. Like has been said, x39 isn't a mule, it's probably just been a matter of balance.

I already have an H2 buffer for the build, but the parts came with a 'standard' buffer too. I can mix and match if needed. Obviously reliability beats comfort. Haven't played with the idea of other springs yet.
 
I vote nope as well.
I run an Effin A tuneable comp on my 16” 7.62x39 AR and the difference is pretty minor. It’s heavy so the weight may be helping more than gas direction. Tried a few others on a 10” 7.62x39 pistol build and just didn’t see the same dramatic change that 5.56 devices can do. Best results were from a no name triple chamber brake but it was almost 4” long and heavier than my effin A, not worth it.
Just hard to beat an A2 flash hider for price, weight & length for what it does.
 
I have inexpensive eBay type brakes on my A.R. 39‘s and AK-47. I think they make a noticeable difference and I like them. I think of myself as a tough guy as far as recoil is concerned, but anything that allows a quicker follow up shot is good in my book.
 
I couldn't imagine you needing a brake to soften felt recoil, but if you want to have less recovery between shots for rapid fire engagements, a brake may make that slightly easier. The AK74 style is definitely a design that works- I believe in it so strongly for this application, that I put a $25 brake of that design on my very expensive Larue carbine I used back in my 3 gun days. Every now and then the scorers complained about it, but after the first shot, they always realized that they didn't need to be right next to me to register their pro-timers anyway.
 
I agree with Breechface, the VG6 muzzle brakes are very nice. I have them on my AR's and they work very well!

If you haven't tried one, they can be found for under $100. Try the standard birdcage and then swap it out for a VG6 Gamma 556.
 
Okay, I like that Krink brake.
Maybe not on the AR unless I want a 'fake can', but if I could find that with the threads for my AK...

They were originally used on AK's so yes they do have them in that thread size. I think its like m14x1.0 or something like that. Here is a picture for scale

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They were originally used on AK's so yes they do have them in that thread size. I think its like m14x1.0 or something like that. Here is a picture for scale.

I know they're made, and the thread is M14x1LH. Don't see that size on the site, though. Maybe if I could find an adapter...
Anyway, that upper looks very much like mine. If I had the full-length rail, I'd grab it. my 12" rail, I like something smaller.
Will try out my flash hider until I know specifics on what I want, I guess.
 
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