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The Colt CP is still in negotiations....Im waiting for a call back, keeping my fingers crossed.
What's coming home Friday?
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Well, while that is not a tank gun, it looks to be built like a tank, so, I think I should get partial credit. 
Nice guess Bersaguy, I have a couple H&R .22s and really like them, now I gotta be on the lookout for one of those.
Nice gun NightLord40k
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Nice guess Bersaguy, I have a couple H&R .22s and really like them, now I gotta be on the lookout for one of those.
Nice gun NightLord40k
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Id only ever seen them in books prior to this. It looks like there are a handfull out there on the Interweb at any given time, but prices are all over the place- which is understandable since almost no two are alike, its tough to set a standard. Julienne Hatchers personal H&R went for $12G at auction some years ago, IIRC.Well, while that is not a tank gun, it looks to be built like a tank, so, I think I should get partial credit.
Nice guess Bersaguy, I have a couple H&R .22s and really like them, now I gotta be on the lookout for one of those.
Nice gun NightLord40k
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I got the "friend price" for this one. Still steep for a single shot .22, but when you play with it a bit, you understand that its not money wasted for sure.
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Well, I was way off…I figured there was a catch and “An obscure model from a well-known manufacturer, and likely the finest handgun they ever made.” I figured “Radom was popular in Poland”.
Yeah, I know…Lame! Haha
Anyway, nice catch @NIGHTLORD40K
Honestly, I would have never guessed what your gun might be, but it was a fun exercise.
I want to hear more about that 1917.
Yeah, I know…Lame! Haha
Anyway, nice catch @NIGHTLORD40K
Honestly, I would have never guessed what your gun might be, but it was a fun exercise.
I want to hear more about that 1917.
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Oh, Id love to have a pre-war Radom, but man have they skyrocketed! Just like the Lahtis......Well, I was way off…I figured there was a catch and “An obscure model from a well-known manufacturer, and likely the finest handgun they ever made.” I figured “Radom was popular in Poland”.
Yeah, I know…Lame! Haha
Anyway, nice catch @NIGHTLORD40K
Honestly, I would have never guessed what your gun might be, but it was a fun exercise.
I want to hear more about that 1917.
Not a fan of Waffenamfts, so an occupation-produced example isnt really on my radar, even putting aside the safety issues.
The M1917 is a bog-standard US issue WW1 gun, mechanically sound, but had been heavily buffed and reblued- though they did an excellent job of it. Its wearing so-so commercial Magnas now, but I will probably get some reproduction plain walnut service panels for it at some point.
My Dad has a nice Brazilian M1917 which was always a hoot, so Ive kept my eyes out for one for a long time, but prices on original-finish examples are also crazy and not likely to come down. This one is a perfectly good "shooter grade" at a reasonable price.
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“Shooter Grade” is perfect, in my book. No guilt about enjoying shooting it.This one is a perfectly good "shooter grade" at a reasonable price.
That's awesome @NIGHTLORD40K That was a shot in the dark guess, given your clues I figured it had to be a dedicated target pistol. Congratulations!
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Yay, finally brought home my new toys!
A few minutes with oiled steel wool and chrome polish cleaned up most of the yuckies. Still a few little blemishes, but what can ya do, its 80 years old......
The sights are simple, and the front blade typically thin for its era. Windage is adjusted at the rear and elevation at the front.
The latching mechanism is VERY tight. No rattles when you shake it, even when the action is open.
Sadly, I didnt get to the range today. I had to work on the pool between rain storms....bleh!
The M1917 must've been pretty rough at one point. They actually buffed it so deeply it removed all the markings from the right side of the frame-
Still, they did a really nice job overall. Very hapy considering what I paid.
A few minutes with oiled steel wool and chrome polish cleaned up most of the yuckies. Still a few little blemishes, but what can ya do, its 80 years old......
The sights are simple, and the front blade typically thin for its era. Windage is adjusted at the rear and elevation at the front.
The latching mechanism is VERY tight. No rattles when you shake it, even when the action is open.
Sadly, I didnt get to the range today. I had to work on the pool between rain storms....bleh!
The M1917 must've been pretty rough at one point. They actually buffed it so deeply it removed all the markings from the right side of the frame-
Still, they did a really nice job overall. Very hapy considering what I paid.
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Hmmmm... interesting. I had ordered some factory Smith and Wesson moon clips for the '17 a couple weeks ago and just opened the package to check fit. Lo and behold the have "TK" stamped on them. TK Customs must be making these for S&W now.
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How do they shoot? They look great!
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Sadly, I didnt get to the range yesterday, but my daughters are taking me for fathers day.
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Nice catch!!
Oddly enough, I'm taking a break from milsurps and done a 180 toward .22 target pistols. Is it some kind of a virus I caught from you???
What followed me home last week (doubly oddly - on Friday):
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(yours is wayyyyyy cooler......)
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I love the Brazillian Contract 1917s and long long ago in a land far far away they were selling for what might be considered a pittance these days.Oh, Id love to have a pre-war Radom, but man have they skyrocketed! Just like the Lahtis......
Not a fan of Waffenamfts, so an occupation-produced example isnt really on my radar, even putting aside the safety issues.
The M1917 is a bog-standard US issue WW1 gun, mechanically sound, but had been heavily buffed and reblued- though they did an excellent job of it. Its wearing so-so commercial Magnas now, but I will probably get some reproduction plain walnut service panels for it at some point.
My Dad has a nice Brazilian M1917 which was always a hoot, so Ive kept my eyes out for one for a long time, but prices on original-finish examples are also crazy and not likely to come down. This one is a perfectly good "shooter grade" at a reasonable price.
There's a quick open safe next to the bed with one of the Brazilians and a few loaded moon clips.
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Nice Nomad!Nice catch!!
Oddly enough, I'm taking a break from milsurps and done a 180 toward .22 target pistols. Is it some kind of a virus I caught from you???
What followed me home last week (doubly oddly - on Friday):
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(yours is wayyyyyy cooler......)
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I keep hoping to find a 1917 in exactly that condition to turn into an “Indiana Jones” gun. The profile of that 4” N-frame with the ramp and pedestal front sight just looks like something I’d like to carry. As bad as old big ugly is the poor feller still has all it’s markings. I just can’t have it cut on.Yay, finally brought home my new toys!
A few minutes with oiled steel wool and chrome polish cleaned up most of the yuckies. Still a few little blemishes, but what can ya do, its 80 years old......
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The sights are simple, and the front blade typically thin for its era. Windage is adjusted at the rear and elevation at the front.
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The latching mechanism is VERY tight. No rattles when you shake it, even when the action is open.
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Sadly, I didnt get to the range today. I had to work on the pool between rain storms....bleh!
The M1917 must've been pretty rough at one point. They actually buffed it so deeply it removed all the markings from the right side of the frame-
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Still, they did a really nice job overall. Very hapy considering what I paid.
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Nice catching!
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Finally got to shoot the H&R and M1917 today-
Quite simply the finest precision shooting pistol Ive ever fired. These groups were one-handed at 25yds. From a bag, I was getting .5" groups consistently with Aguila Super Shorts and CCI SV. I tried some HV Federal HP too, but they were flying all over the place, clearly not getting along with the barrel length or twist somehow.
Ejection was crazy- the empties were zooming over my shoulder and hitting the glass observation wall 10' behind me.
I was using my left hand for loading, so no need to ever break my shooting grip. Windage was dead on from the go, but I had to crank up the front sight blade to its max. height to be on target at 25, I suspect its nominally calibrated for 50yds (or more).
The trigger was.....magical. One moment its there, then its gone. Amazing.
The 1917 needs a little work. I discovered the bolt isnt dropping soon enough to clear the cylinder stop notches and fights against the hand for a moment in single-action. Also, strangely, accuracy was terrible when using moon clips, but improved noticeably when free-loaded. I tried three different brands of ammo and got the same results.
Eventually, I gave up on the moon clips and just used my fingernail as an ejector- fired brass fell free easily.
So that one needs a little fine tuning, but overall pretty good times were had.
Quite simply the finest precision shooting pistol Ive ever fired. These groups were one-handed at 25yds. From a bag, I was getting .5" groups consistently with Aguila Super Shorts and CCI SV. I tried some HV Federal HP too, but they were flying all over the place, clearly not getting along with the barrel length or twist somehow.
Ejection was crazy- the empties were zooming over my shoulder and hitting the glass observation wall 10' behind me.
I was using my left hand for loading, so no need to ever break my shooting grip. Windage was dead on from the go, but I had to crank up the front sight blade to its max. height to be on target at 25, I suspect its nominally calibrated for 50yds (or more).
The trigger was.....magical. One moment its there, then its gone. Amazing.
The 1917 needs a little work. I discovered the bolt isnt dropping soon enough to clear the cylinder stop notches and fights against the hand for a moment in single-action. Also, strangely, accuracy was terrible when using moon clips, but improved noticeably when free-loaded. I tried three different brands of ammo and got the same results.
Eventually, I gave up on the moon clips and just used my fingernail as an ejector- fired brass fell free easily.
So that one needs a little fine tuning, but overall pretty good times were had.
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I was in the gun shop Thursday, no real reason for going there. Saw a lightly used one of these:
I knew nothing about it. Did some research that night and decided I wanted it. So I packed up my Beretta Neos 6" on Friday and traded that heavy boat anchor (+$$$) for a Hammerli !
Never really warmed up to the Neos. The trigger was not good compared with my other target .22s.. The Hammerli trigger is absolutely amazing and I can't wait to try it out. I'm thinking the trigger will spoil me and I'll have to do trigger action jobs on my other .22 target guns or get some volquartsen parts.
I knew nothing about it. Did some research that night and decided I wanted it. So I packed up my Beretta Neos 6" on Friday and traded that heavy boat anchor (+$$$) for a Hammerli !
Never really warmed up to the Neos. The trigger was not good compared with my other target .22s.. The Hammerli trigger is absolutely amazing and I can't wait to try it out. I'm thinking the trigger will spoil me and I'll have to do trigger action jobs on my other .22 target guns or get some volquartsen parts.
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TinNePa
I have a somewhat distant relative of your new gun; the SIG Trailside. The trigger on mine is very light, almost too light! Definitely has a preference for CCI Standard Velocity ammo. Check out www.larrysguns.com for parts, grips, magazines, and other accessories for your Hammerli X-Esse.
I have a somewhat distant relative of your new gun; the SIG Trailside. The trigger on mine is very light, almost too light! Definitely has a preference for CCI Standard Velocity ammo. Check out www.larrysguns.com for parts, grips, magazines, and other accessories for your Hammerli X-Esse.
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Oh man, you guys are getting me going. I love exotic guns. If I see one I've never seen before my "wanna" screen lights up. And I've seen several in this one thread alone. Be still my heart!!
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Thanks Bannock for the link. I was looking for mags in the usual places and there were none to be found. I had read about the Sig trailside. Yours looks identical to mine except the grip is slightly different. I noticed in the manual it said standard velocity only.
So, Ive had something really special on layaway for awhile now, and its finally coming home Friday.
Anybody wanna guess what is is? Here are some clues-
1) Handgun, obviously
2) Less than 4000 made, all prior to WW2
3) An obscure model from a well-known manufacturer, and likely the finest handgun they ever made.
4) Its a gun, but not really a weapon, at least not designed to be, anyway.
Confused? Intrigued? Let the game begin!
S&W registered magnum
If anybody nails it, Ill reveal it immediately, otherwise, you'll have to wait until Friday for pics.
Originally, I was going to pick it up Thursday, but Ill be out of town that day, so Friday it is. I changed the title to correct the mistake.
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