Not much action on "Where are Reloading Components Available"

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GeoDudeFlorida

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Did components dry up or did we all finish restocking already? Or did our usual cadre of searchers (and thank you all very much, BTW) give up and stop looking/posting?

My hope is the next big surge in new reloaders is just now waking up to their needs/wants and are getting ready to start asking "How do I...?" questions instead of "WHere can I find..."

If even 20% of the panic buyers of 2020-21 stick with it, we should see higher prices well into 2022 BUT we will also see more interest in keeping the hoplophobes out of power for a long, long while. I'll pay more for powder and primers if it means more interest in the shooting sports and more support for the RTKBA long after I'm gone.
 
I'm "sort of" in the market for primers, but I'm not desperate and am not going to pay ridiculous prices. So I guess I'm in the "gave up and stopped looking" category. At some point things will settle down a bit. Until then, I'm just going to keep shooting my bow and not worry about finding gun stuff.
 
I'm good on powder for a few years, primers probably 1-2 years, though I'm out of small pistol magnum primers. Bullets I've been finding ok, just have to wait. But I will definitely stock up on primers when the prices get close to normal. I've see CCI small pistol primers as low as 7.5 cents each on midway.
 
gonoles_1980 said:
I'm good on powder for a few years, primers probably 1-2 years, though I'm out of small pistol magnum primers. Bullets I've been finding ok, just have to wait. But I will definitely stock up on primers when the prices get close to normal. I've see CCI small pistol primers as low as 7.5 cents each on midway.
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Do you live close enough to Midway t pickup in person? I saw posts from a few people who do...

With tax, S/H & HazMat, the $74.95 LIMIT 1 from Midways works out to 10.4¢ each for me. Taxes are 6% in Florida but 7% in my area - we pay for the local politicians to buy votes.
 
I see shelves stacked with loaded ammunition but very few components. The bass pro has near zero except a few bullets no powder no primers and avery outdoors has barely anything. I did find 3 pounds of tac 35 each and they had cans of 4064 for 40 each with sw 4350 also 40 a can. No primers. The local gun store has srpm for 80 dollars one box and I didn't see the price on the cci41s. They wanted 300 dollars for an 8 of 4180 and 270 for an 8 of 4227. The single pounders were also outrageous with a single pound of vv165 for 80 dollars. I did score their early in the year before they repriced everything, but dam.
 
.38 Special said:
I'm "sort of" in the market for primers, but I'm not desperate and am not going to pay ridiculous prices. So I guess I'm in the "gave up and stopped looking" category. At some point things will settle down a bit. Until then, I'm just going to keep shooting my bow and not worry about finding gun stuff.
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Yeah...same here. I haven't seen primers on the shelf in well over a year now. Powders pretty much dried up about 6 months ago (some kinds well before that). Projectiles are completely hit/miss.

I stopped looking for things a while back. Nothing but empty shelves, or in the case of our local Bass Pro, they filled the shelves with other stuff, there isn't even shelf space for powder/primers.

I'll be shocked if I see a brick of primers, at any price, sitting on a shelf by year's end. I'll be shocked if they're available and under $50/brick come next summer.

It really sucks. I have materials in store, but I'm not dipping into them. I haven't been shooting since May.
 
I also read an article stating that some manufacturers are backing down production due to brass supply. With the material required for primers they could easily keep that in full production for one lot of any case.
 
FWIW, a guy on anther forum I monitor just posted a letter with updated price sheet from Vista, which I think was to be effective in either Oct or Nov 2021. Was putting dealers on notice of pending price increases. Range of 5% to 10% increase for most ammo and reloading supplies, except primers. Primers were going up 15%. So if you have been waiting for prices to drop on those.......something to consider.

Perhaps they will be rolling all those windfall primer profits into new primer factories? ;)
 
I bought one box of 28 ga game loads at $16 because I can't find any 209s. It will have to last the season. My local shop has IMR 4198, IMR 3031, Win 231, Auto Comp, Universal Clays, and other common powders clogging the isles. They want $38 for pounders and $246 for the 8s. A box of 20 or 50 rounds of anything is north of $40 and they have limits of one box of each cartridge. I've been spending my component money on books lately. I predict my library will grow quite large.
 
I think we are at a point where things are available enough on shelves or via the internet that scrambling to find any powder, bullet, or brass is largely over, like it very nearly was in The Beginning. Primers are still the wild card, however... and that is mostly what is popping up in the Where thread. I hop into the LGS about every 2 weeks and I'm almost guaranteed to find powder and bullets on the shelf, and maybe some brass. There are even... *gasp!*... firearms on the shelves!
 
blue32 said:
A box of 20 or 50 rounds of anything is north of $40 and they have limits of one box of each cartridge. I've been spending my component money on books lately. I predict my library will grow quite large.
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I still cannot wrap my head around a person that is willing to pay that kind of $$ for one box of ammo.

There was a guy on a different forum talking about picking up a couple of boxes of 44 magnum for $56/box. I fully understand its different strokes for different folks...but there's no way I'd drop $120 after tax on 100 rounds of ammo. I just will refrain from shooting.
 
Typetwelve said:
I still cannot wrap my head around a person that is willing to pay that kind of $$ for one box of ammo.

There was a guy on a different forum talking about picking up a couple of boxes of 44 magnum for $56/box. I fully understand its different strokes for different folks...but there's no way I'd drop $120 after tax on 100 rounds of ammo. I just will refrain from shooting.
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I remember back in 1975 when most people gave up driving because gas prices shot up to over 50¢/gallon.

No, wait, they didn't actually stop driving, they just griped about having to pay more and threw mini tantrums at kids working as gas jockeys - like me - about how outrageous it was that gas cost more than milk. I remember a lot of people threatening to stop driving but they never did. Then in '79 when the lines and shortages hit again, those same people stopped driving because there was no gas. Not at any price. Then they REALLY griped!
 
GeoDudeFlorida said:
I remember back in 1975 when most people gave up driving because gas prices shot up to over 50¢/gallon.

No, wait, they didn't actually stop driving, they just griped about having to pay more and threw mini tantrums at kids working as gas jockeys - like me - about how outrageous it was that gas cost more than milk. I remember a lot of people threatening to stop driving but they never did. Then in '79 when the lines and shortages hit again, those same people stopped driving because there was no gas. Not at any price. Then they REALLY griped!
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That's kind of apples/oranges, though. Fuel is the lifeblood of our lives. It impacts nearly every aspect of our life and is something that no matter what, we cannot escape the financial crunch when the price soars. Simply not-driving won't let you escape the hike.

Ammo is something else entirely. Every time this happens (and will happen), I just stop shooting. Its an elective and a hobby. I don't need ammo to get to work, or to keep my family fed, or to keep the lights on. With that said, I'll still call it as I see it, it sucks. It sucks when I have to cease my main hobby every time this happens.
 
Typetwelve said:
That's kind of apples/oranges, though. Fuel is the lifeblood of our lives. It impacts nearly every aspect of our life and is something that no matter what, we cannot escape the financial crunch when the price soars. Simply not-driving won't let you escape the hike.

Ammo is something else entirely. Every time this happens (and will happen), I just stop shooting. Its an elective and a hobby. I don't need ammo to get to work, or to keep my family fed, or to keep the lights on. With that said, I'll still call it as I see it, it sucks. It sucks when I have to cease my main hobby every time this happens.
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We are in complete agreement!

I wasn't meaning to imply gas and ammo are the same. Sorry if that's how it reads. I meant, every time things like this happen - whether it's TP or ammo or gas or milk... some kind of shortage or price hike - a certain percentage of people will scream bloody murder AND CHANGE THEIR HABITS. The '73 gas crunch killed the muscle car. The '79 gas crunch killed the luxury car. The '90's money crunch killed the European currencies and gave us "The Euro" - more precisely, a new set of monetary exchanges, ¥€$. I know people personally who have quit reloading and mostly quit shooting because of these successive, seemingly non-stop ammo and reloading component crunches. That's what i meant. I just said it poorly. The griping and complaining is normal. It does sux and there's no gettin around it. But change is a constant state of life. Stasis is death. Getting mad about normal stuff is not normal.
 
GeoDudeFlorida said:
We are in complete agreement!

I wasn't meaning to imply gas and ammo are the same. Sorry if that's how it reads. I meant, every time things like this happen - whether it's TP or ammo or gas or milk... some kind of shortage or price hike - a certain percentage of people will scream bloody murder AND CHANGE THEIR HABITS. The '73 gas crunch killed the muscle car. The '79 gas crunch killed the luxury car. The '90's money crunch killed the European currencies and gave us "The Euro" - more precisely, a new set of monetary exchanges, ¥€$. I know people personally who have quit reloading and mostly quit shooting because of these successive, seemingly non-stop ammo and reloading component crunches. That's what i meant. I just said it poorly. The griping and complaining is normal. It does sux and there's no gettin around it. But change is a constant state of life. Stasis is death. Getting mad about normal stuff is not normal.
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Ah...got it, I read what you said differently.

I too try not to just gripe and moan about it...it really is pointless. At worst, I give a disappointed *sigh and move on. I've weathered these before and I'll weather this one as well.

I'm a planner and I'm always thinking at least 12 months ahead with this hobby. The only panic that caught me with my pants down was the first one I went through, and that was a long time ago.

I just try to find something else to do in my spare time when this happens. Grumping about it doesn't accomplish much.

With that said, this is one of the worst I've seen. Couple a COVID lockdown with civil unrest and then a Democrat win in the House/Senate/WH and it makes for a trifecta of panic that I've yet to see matched in the past.
 
Having seen these shortages before, I always plan for it to happen again. I hate to think of primers priced at $70 per thousand, but with demand, material shortages and inflation, I am not surprised. I have several cases I paid $150 each for and hate to think of a case of primers costing $350. Once components are back on the shelves and easy to purchase most anywhere, we will only then know what the new normal will be.
 
Hartkopf said:
Vista announced a price increase coming Nov 1st. They also announced “no new primer orders until further notice.” So more than likely, we won’t see primers for a long time.
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The letter was posted on another forum here,and then closed by Moderation.. but that is what it said.
The "No New Primer Orders..." part was in Caps. o_O
 
I'm in the "not looking" category. I'll not pay overprice rates for primers. I have enough and I believe the supply is improving. I have enough powder to fight a small war. Got ahead of that one before it all dried up locally. I know there is a need for some quality hunting bullets, so I do occasionally search my usual vendor and post something useful I find there.
 
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