Dumb sks questions...

I just picked up a Yugo SKS and found tons of great info here: http://www.sksboards.com/

a 'non' folding stock

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Why not wait for the ban to expire? Or is there something I forgot about another law about something else.

Why not wait for the ban to expire? Or is there something I forgot about another law about something else.

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that crazy "import" ban that came before the 94 AW ban.

try a choate dragonov stock...a bit better made than the ATI version where everything is all 1 piece.A yugo would look pretty slick setting in one with a scout type mount in place of the sight base.

Well, mounting a substitute mag permanent-style requires that the hostile LE person who's trying to arrest you for your illegal rifle KNOWS or is WILLING TO LISTEN TO the explanation of the magazine.

For the most part, it's "All non-stock magazines are interchangeable. This gun's been illegally modified." Next stop, the Graybar Hotel, a confiscated rifle, and a day in court plus a stack of legal fees.

Also, I've been made aware of at least one SKS that had a high-capacity FIXED magazine that was rendered "interchangeable" by a swift palm-slap on the bottom/back of the mag. AK mags (The usual choice.) are made outta sheetmetal, and are usually pretty thin. Because his SKS had a "banana clip" on it instead of the stock mag, (Or even one of those 20-round factory mags that're a star-embossed triangle.) a friend of mine wound up in jail for six months with a felony comviction, lost his gun rights, and his gun got chopped.

Because a cop could swat a cheap pseudo-permanent mag modification out of his gun. The magazine bent, but the only reason the cop even had an issue with it was because it wasn't a stock SKS, and most cops know the difference.

So, for real, look hard for one of those double-size stock mags. I think they're for the Chinese guns, specifically.

And on a lighter note, think hard about getting a Fibreforce Dragunov-style stock for the gun. It winds up looking cool, if you're into that exotic weapon thing, but mostly it CHANGES THE FEEL OF THE RIFLE COMPLETELY!

The pull-length is different, the cheek-weld's different, it's got a pistol grip, and it absorbs MOST of the "snappy" part of the SKS's recoil, something you know about with that factory wooden stock..

It becomes a whole diferrent gun. For all of about $50-$60. Well worth it if it suits your tastes. My bud absolutely loves his, (Not the jail-time dude.) and even I think it's a blast, and I hate pistol-grip assault-weapony, black-rifle-flavored guns.

It's the best for hopping an antifreeze jug back and forth on the range.

I am glad you decided to wait. Too much potential trouble to be worth it, and the fixed 10 rd stock mags function too well to mess with.
About the stock mentioned by Hand_Rifle_Guy, he has very good points all around. It reduces a lot of the recoil, or so it seems, and in my experience make rapid fire a little bit more accurate.

SKS is a hard gun to go wrong with. Have fun.

modifying one of those ATI dragunov stocks to be able to remove the receiver cover

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From www.surplusrifle.com

"I installed a Fiberforce Dragunov-style stock on my SKS sometime back and thought I'd pass along my 2 cents. The area behind the receiver is, apparently, intended to mimic the profile of an AK. Looks good, but you can't remove the receiver cover without removing the stock. Bummer. I modified my stock with a hack-saw, file, screw driver, sand paper and emory cloth to remedy this situation. It's not for the faint of heart, and takes a couple of hours, but here's how:

Separate the rifle from the stock. Remove the receiver cover, bolt et al. Reassemble the rifle and stock. Note the area where the back of the receiver meets the stock. Take a pencil and trace the receiver's contour into the receiver cavity inside the stock. Again, separate the rifle and stock. Now, note where the line traced inside the receiver cavity meets the sides of the stock. Extend the line horizontally back along the each side of the stock as far as the stock goes.

Now comes the good part. Clamp the stock in a vice, taking care to insulate the stock from the vice jaws. With a hacksaw, carefully cut along the lines on each side, meeting inside the receiver cavity and across the rear of the stock. Now look again inside the receiver cavity at the original contour you traced. There will be two vertical lines. Extend these lines straight back across the top of the newly exposed surface of the stock. With the hack saw, cut along these two lines to the depth of the horizontal lines inside the receiver cavity. Be careful here, don't cut too deep. Lastly, cut a series of slots between and parallel to these last two cuts, leaving a series of thin tabs sticking up. These tabs can easily be broken out with a screw driver.

Reassemble the rifle and stock. Slide on the receiver cover, noting any interference. Again, separate the rifle and stock. With a file, smooth out any areas where there is interference. With sand paper, emory cloth etc., finish to suit.

Prior to starting this modification, I was very concerned that I might expose a void inside the stock. The manufacturer assured me this shouldn't happen, so I screwed up my courage and gave it a shot. No voids, and the material turns out to be fairly easy to work with."

Good luck.

Cool, hope to see that SKS all bubba'd and ready for the clean up and shoot!

Am I the only person who LIKES the SKS sights? Not the regular sights...the night sights. I have a Yugo and the night sights are very good to my 50+ year old eyes.

Now the trigger.....

Am I the only person who LIKES the SKS sights?

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Yes.

I like the sights on mine. Just bought my Yugo about 3 weeks ago and still enjoy shooting it. The 10 round mag works fine for me. Get some stripper clips if you want a fast reload and still be legal and all.

I have a clean Yugo w/ the NCstar Red Dot from CDNNinvestments. The Red Dot was a little bit of a booger to put on, with all the filing, but once it was in, it has worked very well.

I get about 2' at about 100 yards with it.

What is the average MOA of a new mini 14 or mini 30?

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From what I've read here previously, that seems to depend on how hot you get it. Shooting it slowly and letting it cool between groups seems to net 2"-4" groups @ 100 yards. Shooting faster seems to open things up quite a bit.

But I've never actually owned one - I'm just parroting what I've read here because nobody else was chiming in.

The SKS is what the Ruger Mini-14 should have been.

An AFFORDABLE Semi-Auto that is TOLERANT of abuse, ACCURATE enough for 200 Yards and fires a 30-30 CLASS cartridge.



And yes I am no fan of the Mini-14.

Really crude finish, no bolt hold-open when the magazine is empty, OK accuracy but no tack-driver, and incredibly unbalanced and non-ergonomic. You can get one for around $300, but for that money I can buy a Norinco SKS, lighten the trigger, install a compact optic, and buy a whole bunch of practice ammo.

In fact, that's just what I did - sold the Saiga and got another SKS.

If you're looking for 100+ yard benchrest accuracy that you can show off to your buds, the SKS (or any other inexpensive semi-automatic rifle) is not the best place for you to start. A Savage AccuTrigger bolt-action would be a better inexpensive benchrest rifle upon which to learn to shoot.

Having said that, you can get a SKS to 2MOA if you do your part. It'll require some trigger work (Wolff springs at a minimum or ideally one of Kivaari's triggers), and a little attention to the stress/contact points between the stock and the action. With just the trigger work, you can easily get to 3MOA if the barrel's OK. Is that good enough for your needs/desires? That's your call.

But let me advise you that spending money on practice ammo and learning HOW to shoot is probably as good a way to 'get accurate' as any other, and in that regard the SKS is a VERY good place to start. You can burn through a LOT of 7.62x39 for the cost of a litte bit of most any other caliber round. That's what makes rifles like the SKS appealing - its not made for benchrest shooting, but couples 'good enough' accuracy with an economy of operations that allows a lot more shooting for the $$$.

BTW - the scope's not necessary for the rifle to be accurate, it's needed for you to be able to accurately use the firearm. Oh, and none of the mods needed to make a SKS more accurate require that you do anything negative to the collectability of the rifle, if that's a concern.