So you mean to tell me…did this guy just insinuate that he puts machine gun barrels on a mosin?

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I was cruising through YouTube and I see this cool dude named Bruce. Bruce here wants to show us how to remove the barrel on a mosin nagant. During his explanation he also seems to indicate that he uses machine gun barrels (PKM maybe?) in his builds. Say hwhat now?



 
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Without seeing the video and having the context of his statement, it’s kind of hard to be sure but I’d say it is very unlikely that he is reusing PKM barrels (or any gas operated machine gun barrel) on a Mossin.

For one, the Mosin barrel is threaded into the receiver while the PKM (and most other belt fed machine guns) are using some method of quick change mechanism. That means he would need to put the barrel on a lathe and reprofile and thread the barrel so that it can even attach to the Mosin receiver (assuming there’s enough material there to begin with) and he would almost definitely have to touch up the chamber with a reamer to ensure his headspace is correct.

Additionally, he would also need to weld up the gas port, mill out the area for the rear sight to attach, as well as add a new front sight.

All of that is going to require a lathe and mill, as well as almost the exact same steps (indicating the bore, chambering, etc) as starting from scratch, so he might as well just start with a barrel blank. There’s no reason to have to do MORE work in order to just have a heavily used, lower quality barrel.

If I was going through the trouble of rebarreling a Mosin, I’d honestly start with a standard .30 cal barrel blank (so grooves at .308 rather than .310), chamber to 7.62x54r, and just use handloads with .308 bullets.
 
Looking around, the barrel of choice for that job was the Czech UK 59.
Apparently they did pretty well when they were cheap and the users had the equipment to put them on.
Prices are up to where if you are going to make a silk purse out of that particular sow's ear you are better off to start with new commercial. And paying a gunsmith, ouch!
 
Well, if I spent the jingle to get a LW 50 Lothar-Walther barrel for any rifle, I would say I used a machine gun barrel, as it’s fancy new steel was designed for high round firearms, like machine guns.

I would also be about the same amount of correct too…;)

But some humans just don’t know and can’t help but speak.
I just had some countertop guys leave the “cabin” I working on. One had the same sorts of “facts” about waiting two years for his $4,000 suppressors. The look on his face when I told him I had four was a mix of awe and embarrassment.
I then gave the rundown to his associate. Luckily he stuck around to listen also. He had good questions I answered for him. :)
 
I have a project Mosin with a UK59 machine gun barrel on it. The last thing I need to do to finish it(I started about 9 years ago) is drill and tap for the scope mount. I think I got the barrel for about $70 back then from Classic Arms and used a butchered pawn shop M44 for all the other parts. My gunsmith fabbed a collar to fill in the gap between the receiver and profile on the barrel and head-spaced it. Its heavy but I always planned to shoot from a bi-pod. I have test fired it a few times to check for function but nothing else.

My goal at the time was to make a unique cheap surplus ammo shooting long range setup. Now the cheap surplus has gone by the wayside but I still have a good stash of it to use someday maybe.
 
I don't know the situation with surplus spare barrels for PKM, but many years ago Ian McCollum, later of Forgotten Weapons, posted a GunLab video where he installed a rejected AR-10 barrel on a Mauser 98 (Yugo M24 IIRC). So, such things definitely happen once in a while. And what else could you do with surplus barrels? Russians used to make SMG barrels out of bad Maxim barrels as a matter of course. They literally designed cartridges on the national level so that caliber and rifling rate were suitable for it.
 
Without seeing the video and having the context of his statement, it’s kind of hard to be sure but I’d say it is very unlikely that he is reusing PKM barrels (or any gas operated machine gun barrel) on a Mossin.

For one, the Mosin barrel is threaded into the receiver while the PKM (and most other belt fed machine guns) are using some method of quick change mechanism. That means he would need to put the barrel on a lathe and reprofile and thread the barrel so that it can even attach to the Mosin receiver (assuming there’s enough material there to begin with) and he would almost definitely have to touch up the chamber with a reamer to ensure his headspace is correct.

Additionally, he would also need to weld up the gas port, mill out the area for the rear sight to attach, as well as add a new front sight.

All of that is going to require a lathe and mill, as well as almost the exact same steps (indicating the bore, chambering, etc) as starting from scratch, so he might as well just start with a barrel blank. There’s no reason to have to do MORE work in order to just have a heavily used, lower quality barrel.

If I was going through the trouble of rebarreling a Mosin, I’d honestly start with a standard .30 cal barrel blank (so grooves at .308 rather than .310), chamber to 7.62x54r, and just use handloads with .308 bullets.
I mean yeah, but that’s the only x54 machine gun I could think of at the time of writing this.
 
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Machine gun barrels for the mosin were a thing for a while in the early-mid 2ks....i remember a site selling them for about 40 bucks, cant remember what gun there were off of or if they were "blanks" but the things were really heavy.
 
It was, painful…

I didn’t catch the why because I needed a drink after the first two minutes.:confused:


He's a bit of an eccentric, true. But that's how you remove a barrel. I didn't see him do anything I haven't seen 100 other guys do to remove a barrel.

I also remember when those heavy machine gun barrels were getting swapped onto Mosin's back before 2010.

A buddy had one done. Cut to 20", sights reinstalled, trigger job, scout mounted red dot, cerakoted black in a laminate stock. Still had to beat the bolt back and forth to cycle it, and no usable safety.
 
I was just thinking I kinda wish I was Bruce's neighbor
Oh if you only knew my neighbors. Bruce would be quite the welcome change!:D
I could definitely have a drink with him, and perhaps help him with some of his video production qualities.;)


He's definitely excited about it, and he's pretty to the point instead of fumbling over his work bench stammering on for 20 minutes before actually doing anything.
And telling about how they came to own it. As if “I bought it” wouldn’t suffice.
 
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