9mm Dies

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I have been looking at them and can't decide what to do.

Purchase a 4 die set from the start or get the 3 die set and then decide if I want or need a separate crimping die.

I am frugal, but have no problem spending a bit more to get good stuff. And on that note, I know Lee dies tend to be polarizing- most either love 'em or hate 'em. However, they are $30 less for a set of four than Lymans.

I am not a high volume reloader so the Lees will likely be fine for my purposes.

So... do I get the Lee 4 piece, spend a little more for a 3 piece from Hornady or Redding and add a dedicated taper crimp die later if I need one? Or will the Lee three piece set for $30 work fine for me, a non-competitive shooter?
 
What press, what bullet, what brass?
Back when I was loading single stage, an extra pass for a really nice crimp seemed like a lot of work, but I did it. That was so long ago that a taper crimp was accomplished by taking the decapping pin out of the sizing die and screwing it partway into the press so I could just bump the case mouth flare into the entry radius of the sizing die. I eventually discovered and bought a taper crimp die.

There is some number of loaders going against the grain and crimping in the seater because they have taken up the fourth station on a Dillon 550 with a bullet feeder. So it can be done.

I think Lee dies are adequate; I don't have any sets but I have undersize sizing dies and carbide factory crimpers for those special occasions. Also a case body cannelure tool made out of a collet crimp die by the gunsmith to my design.
 
If you load like I do, I seat and crimp my auto cartridges in separate operations. I find my ammo is more user friendly. If I were buying to cover all my bases and wanted to save a few bucks I would just get the Lee 4 piece. The factory crimp die works well on taper crimps. Seating/crimp dies work but there is a lot of adjustments to make to one die. If you reload range brass you'll want the factory crimp die.
 
What press, what bullet, what brass?

Lyman 8 hole turret. Not sure, not sure.

Right now it is just a math exercise, trying to see if I can reload for less than the $.32 per round I am paying now. Brass and bullets would likely be whatever is available. Obviously the whole thing depends on primers.

But for now, I am researching dies.
 
Lyman 8 hole turret. Not sure, not sure.

Right now it is just a math exercise, trying to see if I can reload for less than the $.32 per round I am paying now. Brass and bullets would likely be whatever is available. Obviously the whole thing depends on primers.

But for now, I am researching dies.


At todays primer cost, it's costing me 22 cents per round with free brass and RMR bullets.

.10 primer (worst case) + .10 bullet +.02 powder.
 
Lyman 8 hole turret
Lee 4-die set with FCD. The Lee powder-through expanding die is made for a powder meter but I use a funnel and throw each charge by hand off the scale pan. YMMV so you know if you do go with the Lee 4-die set and don't want to throw every charge you might look into a Lee perfect powder measure, too.
 
I've always used RCBS 3 die sets for .357, 38, 9mm, .40 and .44 mag. I don't understand why you'd need an extra step for crimping. I know some folks argue its better, but I've never had anyone articulate a convincing argument as to why it would be. I do use one Lee die, a 9mm undersized die. Works great. My loader gives me enough stations where I have 2 carbide sizing dies, an RCBS followed by the Lee (I removed the primer punch from the Lee). I get almost 100% to pass my Hundo gauge that way. Really cuts down on the failures.
 
My thought and methods for 9mm tools; I have a plain Lee die set w/o an FCD and I believe my taper crimp die is a Redding. I don't recommend the "controversial" FCD as I have never run into a need to post crimp resize any of my handloads. I did knock the carbide ring out of the only FCD I tried abut the resulting "crimp" was just so-so, so my preference is a separate "deflaring" die (my semi-auto handlads are not "crimped", just deflared). This has worked quite well for several thousand vaious 9mm rounds for 4, pistols and one revolver..
 
I have some Lee dies, but have never bought a set. For 9mm, I have the undersized Sizing die and the FCD. I seldom use the FCD since I've learned to correctly set up my other dies. When I do use it, it is only on jacketed bullets, but never on coated ones.

I don't like the Lee powder through expanding die and prefer another which uses the M-die profile (mine is a Redding). I also prefer the ability to quickly change OAL, so I use a micrometer adjustable Redding Competition Seating die...that it helps start the bullet straight into the case is just an added bonus.

If I had to, I'd likely buy the 4-die set to have the option of crimping in a separate operation
 
My dies run the spectrum of manufacturers and I have only had one problem with Lee. It involved dies for .30 Luger. Following Lee's instructions for set-up, I crushed 3-4 case mouths. As it turned out, the instructions were incorrect...not the dies.
 
They are all the same, high quality and higher quality and very hight quality

just get the cheap stuff, we are making bullets not sending a probe to Mars
 
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