Prices Rising...Again!

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I am noticing a bad trend. I stop in at Bass Pro a couple of times a week to look and see what they have in the used firearms area and then I walk by the ammo section. Tonight I walked by their ammo/reloading section and noticed CCI small rifle primers...$129.99 per 1,000. Two months ago they were $64.99, that's a 100% increase. Last week they raised the price of CCI Quiets by 17%. I was hoping that the trend would be the other way, and it was for a while, but now I think we're heading for deeper waters. Runaway inflation is a glorious thing.
 
Some loaded ammo is dropping in price. TargetSportsUSA has great prices at the moment. Midway is running a sale on IMI 9mm which makes it a relatively good price at the moment. I think there is more room to move on loaded rounds vs components.

I’ve also noticed primers going up in price at Midway. (and BPS). Also Academy seems to be raising primer prices but they’ve dried up recently in my area.
 
Some loaded ammo is dropping in price. TargetSportsUSA has great prices at the moment. Midway is running a sale on IMI 9mm which makes it a relatively good price at the moment. I think there is more room to move on loaded rounds vs components.

I’ve also noticed primers going up in price at Midway. (and BPS). Also Academy seems to be raising primer prices but they’ve dried up recently in my area.

$0.40 a round on 9mm is not a good price my friend.
 
You understand that pricing reflects demand, and there is plenty of pent up demand. Buy now and pay more, or wait until the anxious ones have been satisfied. This isn't rocket science, and it's not just ammo. Currently, people go nuts when faced with shortages or delays, and there is a cost associated with that impatience. We know prices will go down, although not likely as low as before the pinch. Buy now and fly now, or wait for opportunity to save.
 
Really? A 100% increase at the retail level is not the same as a some knucklehead at the gun show taking advantage of a bad situation. And, it's Bass Pro. They're not making their big money on their little ammo/reloading section. Nope, this is something different. Nothing is going back to "normal". I believe that train left the station about a year ago.
 
Riomouse911:

If your gasoline in CA is taxed as heavily as in much of, if not most of Europe, then the majority of what you pay for gas must consist of taxes.
Whichever the typical percentage(s) for a gallon of gas, do most CA residents know this?

Do they realize that Some of our fuel production has been stopped while our "Caring, Astute Leader" has begged OPEC to increase oil production.....? "I like dem french-fried po-taters".

Phydeaux642: maybe your Bass Pro isn't receiving nearly as many primers as it did two months ago.

I don't buy primers, but can't imagine that the demand throughout the US - in the last two months - has increased so much overall.
 
Riomouse911:

If your gasoline in CA is taxed as heavily as in much of, if not most of Europe, then the majority of what you pay for gas must consist of taxes.
Whichever the typical percentage(s) for a gallon of gas, do most CA residents know this?

Do they realize that Some of our fuel production has been stopped while our "Caring, Astute Leader" has begged OPEC to increase oil production.....? "I like dem french-fried po-taters".

Phydeaux642: maybe your Bass Pro isn't receiving nearly as many primers as it did two months ago.

I don't buy primers, but can't imagine that the demand throughout the US - in the last two months - has increased so much overall.
No no, the tax is already included in the price. You don't get the gas, then pay taxes. $4.68 already has the tax included in the price.
 
Gobsauce: true.

I wasnt very clear, and had always read that the Listed (on the station signs) fuel prices in CA and Europe are super high Because of exorbitant taxes ..included.. in the retail price.

Since I began driving in 1972, every US state has built taxes into the stated price per gallon.


The “Dutch” also pay a “road tax”, to further enhance govt. revenue. Near our hotel in Bad Hoevedorp (by AMS) a used car salesman told us about this.

One of my main original questions, still, is whether most CA “citizens” realize that most of their advertised (yes, retail price/gal.) fuel prices are so extremely high because of very high taxes built into those prices.
 
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Tonight I walked by their ammo/reloading section and noticed CCI small rifle primers...$129.99 per 1,000. Two months ago they were $64.99...

Man, if I'd seen any at that price (64.99), I'd have been thrilled and probably emptied my "secret stash" to buy them up! 129.99 is the lowest they've been in my area since this whole situation kicked off...
 
I am watching the ammo prices on a larger international scale and in the last 12 months, 9mm Luger has increased by over 30% in Europe. There had been no ammo crisis over there, as there had been here and availability has always been good.

Lead increased from $1,900 a ton in November of 2020 to currently $2315 but had been as high as $2,499. Check the brass prices and sharp increase for the cost of transportation.

I was at Basspro in the DFW area last week and ammo was available but at prices that were not 30 or 50% above pre-Corona levels but multiple times as expensive. My local Walmart also has ammo again after sporting empty ammo shelves for many months. With availability improving, prices will eventually adjust - but not any time soon to $160/1,000 9mm Luger from a known and respected brand.
 
Man, if I'd seen any at that price (64.99), I'd have been thrilled and probably emptied my "secret stash" to buy them up! 129.99 is the lowest they've been in my area since this whole situation kicked off...
CCI SPP were $65 a box at my local BPS until very recently, then they jumped up to $80 in a matter for 3 days. Actually, this spring, I was getting them at the same BPS for $42 a brick. They'd been $65 for a while, and I was still buying at that price. They were sproadic and limited to one brick per day per person, but the wife and I gradually stocked up pretty well. This latest jump has me on the sidelines though. I have about a 4 year supply right now, so will wait and hope the prices eventually come back down. If they've jumped to $130, I'd think they'll be sitting on the shelves a lot longer.
 
I don't believe the crap show we are in is the fault of reloaders. Nobody is reselling/scalping at these prices. This goes back to inflation, the money supply (a trillion seconds = 33,000 years) and BS bottlenecks caused by policy. All intentional. "They" have showed us who they are. I believe them.

$80 per brick is looking like a good price now.
 
I certainly don't blame reloaders. My point is that the "transitory inflation" rhetoric they were spewing is nonsense. I believe we are in the middle of a really bad inflation scenario that for the most part will not reverse. I would love to be wrong because it has really put the hurt on me.
 
I am noticing a bad trend. I stop in at Bass Pro a couple of times a week to look and see what they have in the used firearms area and then I walk by the ammo section. Tonight I walked by their ammo/reloading section and noticed CCI small rifle primers...$129.99 per 1,000. Two months ago they were $64.99, that's a 100% increase. Last week they raised the price of CCI Quiets by 17%. I was hoping that the trend would be the other way, and it was for a while, but now I think we're heading for deeper waters. Runaway inflation is a glorious thing.
I did notice they did that too. I went to Cabela's last Friday at 5pm and they had 3 shelves full of primers. Went back Saturday morning around 930am and only 4-5k primers or so. I noticed when someone bought the last brick the sales guy threw the price sticker away. Went in there last night and yep, $120-brick but I thought that was for BR4. I did notice the cheaper 9mm went from $20 to $25. I also noticed a worker come and clean off half the shelf of factory 308 and 6.5 which I thought was pretty odd.
 
Something that more crazy
CCI centerfire ratshot $100.00 box of ten@ gun broker
tell me it aint real
 
Man, if I'd seen any at that price (64.99), I'd have been thrilled and probably emptied my "secret stash" to buy them up! 129.99 is the lowest they've been in my area since this whole situation kicked off...
Trust me, I know. Been paying the outrageously high gas prices (and the included taxes) here for decades.

As for the the numbskulls who believed the additional tax money was actually going to supplement existing state monies for the roads and voted for this ever increasing gasoline/diesel tax they’re fools. They then failed to repeal it when the truth about where the money was going (of course the AG added deceptive descriptions in the voter guide), in them I have little to no faith… especially when they’re often the ones that are bitching the most about the cost of fuel. o_O

Which also is rolled into the cost of ammo, especially when on line competition has been made much more difficult because you can’t have ammo delivered to your door. :cuss:

Stay safe.
 
Just got a notice from Midsouth that they had CCI SR primers for $70/1000. When I looked they were gone. You have to be quick, like lightning quick to get the deals.
 
I certainly don't blame reloaders. My point is that the "transitory inflation" rhetoric they were spewing is nonsense. I believe we are in the middle of a really bad inflation scenario that for the most part will not reverse. I would love to be wrong because it has really put the hurt on me.

Yep, she's heading south in a hurry.
 
The $24 four packs of Fed promo trap loads at Walmart are now $29, when they happen to show up. Hated to pay it but next year's trap league is approaching so I got my limit of three. (6 weeks worth).
 
I am of an age where I have lived thru inflation periods before. Everyone will adapt their behavior to the increased costs and then the costs will adapt to that changed behavior - now how that shakes out, I have no clue. I do know that demand decreases as price increases - eventually equilibrium will be reached.
If it costs too much (sans necessities), then do not purchase it. Remember, the tax collector works on percentages so inflation is their best friend.
 
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