Anyone shoot the no snag P365?

I’ve heard mixed reports.

I’m intrigued as well. I’ll buy one if I come across one without the ports. Ported is the only way that I’ve seen them so far in the wild.

I've considered changing my Nitron to incorporate the no snag parts and SAS slide. No ports makes it even better. That is what Devel and Asp came up with customizing S&W 39s in the day, and they were well appreciated then. Most of the features were then used in the next model by Smith. There were very few licensed CCW then, most states didn't allow it, and a custom deep carry auto pistol for the brave was an unspoken icon of freedom.

Much like the early Fisk snubbies - which rapidly became hot selling models from most gun makers - a snag free model for 9mm's is a desireable thing. A carry gun doesn't need target sights, extended controls, extended capacity mags, etc. All that is contrary to the point. Concealed carry is exactly the opposite, you want melt jobs on corners to smoothly extract the pistol from carry inside the clothing. AKA shoulder holster carry under a shirt. There are carry shirts now with snaps that look like buttons, side velcro for the belt carriers, interior pockets for extra mags. I buy every one I find at DAV. I'm cheep.

I need to up the game with the pistol. I'm not real partial to the coin operated slide lever, but there are things Mr. Dremel could be doing. I see a future for things like changeable safeties and levers which are tapped and keyed to accept half of dozen different shaped controls. They sell a lot of that for AR's, same engineering and tech, high profit. I won't be surprised when they come out.

First I've heard of this.
Seems like a really good idea.

It’s my carry gun. The p365 SAS is easy to pocket carry, and while the Meprolite Bullseye sites takes a little bit of time to get used to, the are very fast to acquire and accurate out to 10 yards. Good capacity and a solid defensive caliber make it a solid choice.

Great Scot

The p365 SAS is easy to pocket carry, and while the Meprolite Bullseye sites takes a little bit of time to get used to, the are very fast to acquire and accurate out to 10 yards. Good capacity and a solid defensive caliber make it a solid choice.

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I could do without the porting but my biggest concern is getting use to the FT Bullseye sights in low level light/no light situations. I think I'm too accustomed to a regular sight picture to make the transition to the SAS sights.

Just took the p365 SAS out today along with other p365s. Rapid-fire 20 shot 4" group about 3" low and 1" to the left at 25 ft. Did that 2x so pretty consistently. This was from bench presentation to firing with a reload at 10 shots. 40 rds total. My buddy did similar and he'd never seen a p365 SAS. His was on target but slow fire.

It is a gimmick in search of buyers who love gimmicks and is horribly inaccurate at anything beyond ten yards.

If you are absolutely sure you will never have to defend yourself beyond ten yards, then it's a great gun...

I bought a P365 SAS w/ ported barrel. The sights are useless at night. I liked the concept and in broad day light the sights were awesome, the reason I bought it. I ended up buying a new slide, barrel and take down leaver and converted the gun to a regular P365. If you go to the Sig site and look at the reviews, you won' see any negative reviews, reason being is because they removed them all and there were a lot of them.

I had the ported version, hated the sight in total darkness. Traditional night sights at least you can see if your off a bit, not so with the bullseye. The pistol is very usable out to 25 yards, and the ported version gets you back on target very fast. I also found the sight was adjustable for windage, but very sensitive to adjust.

I am of the opinion that if you are snagging on anything during presentation, you need to work on your presentation. It’s not that difficult.

I carry a regular p365, but a friend's wife carries the SAS. I shot it last time at the family range, and I kind of liked it. It forced me to point shoot, and that day I was more accurate with it at 15 yards or less than with my EDC. It is a gimmick, for sure, but I was intrigued by it.

I actually had one. The sights were VERY VERY difficult to acquire. Point, instinct shooting, it was OK. I sold it to a friend. He could not acquire the sights easily just as I could not. He sold it. IMO it is useless.

I like mine. She hits fine out to 10 yards, don't expect to have to fight any further than that.

I had a SAS and really liked the sight at a well lit range, but in low- to-no light it was useless. I sold it and bought a standard P365 with the X-Ray sights.

I traded away a full fledged SAS on a regular 365, but ordered an unported SAS slide, and have experimented with it since. In good light, the sights work okay, but in poor light they are pretty much worthless.
Wish they had something to give you at least an index point in bad light.
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I love my SAS. The sights do take some getting used to but not that bad. The best thing I like about it is out to 7-10 yards I can just shoot center mass without using the sights at all. Any farther out and the unacceptable misses start to add up.

I can't do that with my CZ's, Beretta 92-96 or my Ruger Sp-01. My old Remington 51 comes close to doing that but I don't carry it. YMMV.

I did add the LIMA laser for backup in dim/dark light

AMraider said:

I love my SAS. The sights do take some getting used to but not that bad. The best thing I like about it is out to 7-10 yards I can just shoot center mass without using the sights at all. Any farther out and the unacceptable misses start to add up.

I can't do that with my CZ's, Beretta 92-96 or my Ruger Sp-01. My old Remington 51 comes close to doing that but I don't carry it. YMMV.

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So, you're saying that the SAS is virtually identical in accuracy to the regular P365 out to 10 yards since you are not even using the sights and just point shooting, correct?

Because the P365 and the P365 SAS are identical except for the removal of the sights and the take down lever. So if you can point shoot the SAS without using the sights, then you can point shoot the P365 without using the sights.

And because all actual owners of the SAS claim that the SAS is not accurate beyond 10 yards, then justify it by saying that most people will never need to defend themselves beyond ten yards, then logic dictates that one could attain a snag-free P365 with the same accuracy and capability as the SAS by simply removing the sights and not paying the extra $80.

Or am I missing something?

Trey Veston said:

And because all actual owners of the SAS claim that the SAS is not accurate beyond 10 yards, then justify it by saying that most people will never need to defend themselves beyond ten yards

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Im not prepared to dismiss the sights based on 2 or 3 common responses (as opposed to ‘all owners’) but in my time at the range I see plenty of people with all flavors of pistols shoot 8” groups at the 7 yd line with typical sights. I’ve only seen the SAS so I cannot comment on shootability or accuracy.

I will reintegrate my feeling that most modern pistols are virtually snag free, given a good holster (which should be part of any CC platform) and a proper presentation.

I personally did not care for it. Tried one at the gun shop and put it back. Just not my cup of tea. Got the 365xl instead and she shoots and carries well. No problems snagging the xl sights...

That is the sights from my nightstand. And that group is 15 yards. I’ve also taken the head of a squirrel at 15 yards(not feet). Mine shoots awesome.

Trey Veston said:

So, you're saying that the SAS is virtually identical in accuracy to the regular P365 out to 10 yards since you are not even using the sights and just point shooting, correct?

Because the P365 and the P365 SAS are identical except for the removal of the sights and the take down lever. So if you can point shoot the SAS without using the sights, then you can point shoot the P365 without using the sights.

And because all actual owners of the SAS claim that the SAS is not accurate beyond 10 yards, then justify it by saying that most people will never need to defend themselves beyond ten yards, then logic dictates that one could attain a snag-free P365 with the same accuracy and capability as the SAS by simply removing the sights and not paying the extra $80.

Or am I missing something?

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You did miss something, my statement of mine shooting great out to 25 yards It took more work however.

Trey Veston said:

.......logic dictates that one could attain a snag-free P365 with the same accuracy and capability as the SAS by simply removing the sights and not paying the extra $80.

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And old armorer that lives in my building recommends removing the iron sights entirely because in his words, "They just slow you down".

The controls on the left side of my P365X are not likely to hang up on anything, but the front sight could easily hang up on something. I plan to convert my P365X to a P365XL. I plan to shoot it at the range with the longer XL slide, before I transfer the iron sights, to see how well I can aim by just sighting along the slide. We'll see how well I can shoot with a P365 slide with X-Ray sights versus a P365XL slide with no sights.

Alllen Bundy said:

And old armorer that lives in my building recommends removing the iron sights entirely because in his words, "They just slow you down".

The controls on the left side of my P365X are not likely to hang up on anything, but the front sight could easily hang up on something. I plan to convert my P365X to a P365XL. I plan to shoot it at the range with the longer XL slide, before I transfer the iron sights, to see how well I can aim by just sighting along the slide. We'll see how well I can shoot with a P365 slide with X-Ray sights versus a P365XL slide with no sights.

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well, if Bob Munden could shoot a single action 45 so fast… I’m trying to figure why I’m so slow.