"New" rifle: Springfield Hellion

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Cool - I want . Mostly as as a conversation piece/collectible, but still, I want one.

I'd love to get one, but no way I could justify spending anywhere near that MSRP for it. Even if the street price is significantly lower, still a hard sell for me. Cool piece though.

They are doing a giveaway, so tossed my name in that. I'm about an hour away from their HQ so maybe they'd let me just drop by.

Thats neat. I wouldn't be in the market for one but it would be cool to see it in some other calibers.

JCooperfan1911 said:

Ugly bugger, that.

Don’t see how it does anything better than a Mini-14 considering it is limited to semi-automatic only,

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Its a wonder the worlds militaries or competitive 3 gun shooters aren't adopting mini 14's...

Ian did a review and some shooting with the selective fire military predecessor of this rifle:

someguy2800 said:

Thats neat. I wouldn't be in the market for one but it would be cool to see it in some other calibers.

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I think one in 9mm would be really cool myself. Kinda had a PCC bug lately.

JeeperCreeper said:

I honestly want one. Just don't know if it's better than an AUG or Tavot

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Only one way to find out..

Looks kinda like a modern MAS Famas but based of G36.. pretty cool.

Although the Aug has been around almost 50yrs now and still in service.

BigBL87 said:

I think one in 9mm would be really cool myself. Kinda had a PCC bug lately.

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9mm doesn't need the barrel length so would be just as well off with an SBR but it would still be really cool

At least they are doing something and I guess focus groups keep telling everyone they want a bull pup rifle/shotgun.

I sure wish they could talk to more people that are interested in accuracy before setting out to build a new rifle.

Looks kind of clunky. I think I would take the Aug.

tarosean... you are not a great influence...following your posts is bad for my wallet. now you have me thinking about Augs.

I like the bullpup concept… short oal with 16” barrel ballistics, sbr length without the tax stamp process, and most have decent balance.

Only con is the controls take a little getting used to if you’re an AR guy. Nothing some trigger time wouldn’t fix.

Would like to see the VHS-2….(hellion) in person. As of now, I still think I’d prefer an X95 but I’m open.

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JCooperfan1911 said:

What it would do that a Tavor, AUG, or even an AR-15 can do I can’t imagine.

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I see our friendly fire made you surrender the Mini-14 hill. Progress in the right direction! Just a little more!

JCooperfan1911 said:

Looks extremely overpriced.

If someone is a collector of Croatian firearms I’ll bet they’re jumping for joy.

What it would do that a Tavor, AUG, or even an AR-15 can do I can’t imagine. If someone wants to just be different maybe I can see, but I personally think it is pointless.

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Expensive, yes. But close to current market prices for other bullpups like the X95, etc. So I wouldn’t necessarily say it’s overpriced as compared others of its type.

Seems bullpups command a premium, as a general rule. Why? I’ve no clue. Maybe street price will fall a bit. Usually do but who knows in this current market

If they would have just put this on it I would buy it for sure

JCooperfan1911 said:

Don’t see how it does anything better than a Mini-14 considering it is limited to semi-automatic only,

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HMMMMMMMM...
So why did you buy that Arsenal when a Mini-14 would do?

starling said:

tarosean... you are not a great influence...following your posts is bad for my wallet.

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Yes, I am an enabler.

tarosean said:

HMMMMMMMM...
So why did you buy that Arsenal when a Mini-14 would do?

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I asked to delete my previous messages. Did not mean to offend.

JCooperfan1911 said:

I asked to delete my previous messages. Did not mean to offend.

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Not offended at all. Just asked you to expound on your point of view.

TFB did a pretty good review in that video. Looks like another case of having to accept a lot of awkwardness (trigger, mag release, and long LOP) to get a bullpup. Seems like it performs well enough though. Might be a little too tactically modern for me. It took me a while to warm up to the XD pistols too though (which I like now) so who knows. AUGs where wicked cool the first time I saw one. All the Steyr stuff has been actually.

The fully ambidextrous design is very nice to see.

As far as aesthetics goes, I hate it. But from a practical point of view, how it looks doesn't matter. And the features make it very appealing to me.