HS-6 vs Longshot

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I've been using HS-6 since before the internet was a thing, and before people said "a thing." My first use of it was in 12 and 16 Ga field loads where it was perfect. I greeted the advent of longshot with a yawn, as if 1 1/4 oz of shot at 1330-1400fps couldn't kill it, nothing would. When I moved to grouse country, I got a little more interested in LS as it would push 1 1/8 oz of lead really fast and I hunted a lot of heavy cover sans canine. You couldn't kill them too dead, but 1 1/8 oz of chilled #6 at a high stepping velocity approaching 1500 fps came darn close to too dead! It did blow the patterns a bit, which was actually a bonus for the cover I hunted. Also did yeomans work on first shot pheasant loads when I visited the family back in MN. My can of HS-6 sat, long neglected in a dark corner, as my consumption of heavy pheasant loads was scant, and I'm still shooting loads from the late 90's.

Then, around 2010 I decided I needed to reload 9mm. Factory loads were experiencing a price spike and availability sporadic. My old steel can had a new use, and was quickly expended across the countryside pushing 124grain cast and jacketed bullets. When the last great powder shortage hit, H-6 was one of the ones I found to fill my bench, so I just kept using it.

Now I find myself in a position of once again needing a high velocity 1 1/8 oz 12Ga load. I also now load 9mm, .357/38 and .41 Rem mag. Data for longshot is quite promising across the board for those calibers. I am very familiar with the shotgun applications of both powders, but wondering from folks who have used one, the other, and hopefully both, what the results were in the above handgun cartridges. My uses would be primarily full power 9mm jacketed, .38 +P jacketed, .357 mid- power hardcast, and .41 mid-power hard cast.
 
Have used HS-6 in mid power 357 Magnum loads. It works well in that application as long as you stay in the upper half of the loading range and use a magnum primer. Otherwise, it tends to leave powder kernels behind which can cause binding of extractors on DA revolvers.

Also used it long ago in 38 +P where it does OK, but there is a greater tendency to leave powder kernels behind in that application.
 
I can only speak to the faster 9mm loads. I just tested some HS6 in a S&W M&P9. These were my first loads using it. It uses a fair bit of powder per shot, which I’m not too keen on. It also takes up a lot of room, which I like. I doubt I could double charge with the 115 grain bullet loads. Accuracy was either great or average. 3 shots were under an inch at 10 yards but the 4th went a little low. If that was me, then accuracy is great. If it was the load, then it’s still ok. I don’t know which it was though. The load was 0.1 grains below the book maximum, so it was a pretty stout load for me.
 
HS6/W540 was my favorite powder for 20ga loads in the 70's. Still use it today for shotgun and a few hand gun loads. I found it works real well with the 357 sig, 115gr XTP's.
 
HS-6 is my goto powder for higher end jacketed 9mm. If I want it to run fast and true, I use HS-6, and always in the higher charge bracket.

I am presently using it in that application. Wondering how Longshot works in same and others I listed. I'd like to streamline my inventory as I am stocking LS again for shotgun use. Hopefully someone has some more LS experience.
 
I’m using Longshot in 9MM, .40 and 10MM range ammo. Performs quite well in those calibers.

Never tried in .357 or .41 Mag yet so I can’t help you there
 
In my very limited experience with HS-6 I found it runs best near the top also, though I used generic plated bullets, not high end ones. It might be worth testing a batch with the Lehigh bullets my pistols seem to favor.
 
In my very limited experience with HS-6 I found it runs best near the top also, though I used generic plated bullets, not high end ones. It might be worth testing a batch with the Lehigh bullets my pistols seem to favor.
For the Federal 105gr eFMJ “Guard Dog” and Remington 124gr BJHP Golden Saber loads I put together HS-6 has performed the best, followed by Blue Dot and Unique. Blue Dot also has to run at near peak and is really flashy. Unique is more tame but has a lot of graphite so it runs dusty. Gets my hands dirty. Fingerprint City!
 
As said by almost everyone, HS-6 is great for hot 9mm. I experimented with a 9mm load that I can’t post here. ;) Works great! From what I’ve read about 9mm major, HS-6 gets it done but Longshot is a little too slow of a burn rate. Longshot is better in 40,10mm and medium magnum revolver loads. I like Longshot in 357 and 44 magnum when I don’t want all out H110 loads.
 
I have found Longshot to be one of the very best powders for midrange to light magnum loads in the .41 mag. 10.0 grains under a 210 SWC gives great accuracy at about 1150 fps in my 4-5/8" Blackhawk. 8.5 grains under a 240 SWC gives about 1000 fps and accuracy with deep penetration.
 
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