2 less than max in an AR mag. Do you?
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Space Ghost
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210?
Are you sure you didn't mean 203?
No.. the standard load out... 7 mags x 30 rounds each = 210 rounds.
RetiredUSNChief
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But...but...DOWN LOAD THEM!
They're not designed to hold that many! Springs! Hard to load!
twarr1
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The US Army taught me to lace my shoestrings left over right.
They also taught me to “tap” the magazine after insertion.*
I still do both things.
*But we only had 20 round mags for our M16A1E1 ‘s
They also taught me to “tap” the magazine after insertion.*
I still do both things.
*But we only had 20 round mags for our M16A1E1 ‘s
tonelar
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But...but...DOWN LOAD THEM!
They're not designed to hold that many! Springs! Hard to load!
HAHA
I’ve plastic AUG as well as GI-OKC mags that are fully loaded. Many go back to the 80’s.
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I load 27 in my tactical carbine.
Space Ghost
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LOL... I still do my laces left over right...
I do NOT line the shoes / boots up under the edge of my bed.
citizenconn
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I know this is an old thread, but I'm interested if you ever processed and ate any of the javelina. I grew up out in Odessa, and my Dad was a driller on an oil rig back then in the 60s, 70s and early 80s. We ran across javelina often, but no one I knew ever shot any as deer were plentiful. I am trying to decide if it would be worth harvesting any in my future hunting endeavors.
marksman13
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I run mine one round less than capacity. I have done it that way no matter where I was in the world. Only issue I’ve ever seen with a completely full mag is that with some mags and some rifles, it can be hard to seat a mag at full capacity, so I load to one less in case I need to “tactical reload”. I think that’s what the cool kids call it when you load a fresh mag before you are completely dry…
45/30-06OKIE
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I put the max rated capacity in my mags and I even keep them loaded! I have seen wierd stuff happen with mags of various manufacturers I mainly use GI 30rd AR15 mags for 5.56 and 458 Socom. I use Magpul for Glock 17 and AR15 with only a few issues randomly. I also use Mec-Gar 1911 mags and they function fine. I do have some "tactical" ones with the extended baseplate and they don't have a locking tab for the baseplate so if you smack the mag in the gun, it slides off and spews it's guts along with your ammo all over the place... You have to do it just right because it's only sometimes when it does it.
dh1633pm
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I was Air Force. They trusted us with all sorts of things an M4 was not one of them. So zero loaded in mine. If you wanted to know the combat load of an F16, maybe I could add value.
I asked my son what their rule was, USMC. He said and I quote “30, unless you had a crap mag, then less”. Combat vet with experience in lots of places.
I asked my son what their rule was, USMC. He said and I quote “30, unless you had a crap mag, then less”. Combat vet with experience in lots of places.
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Not me I loadem up
sarduy
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No issues, 30 rounds mags get loaded to 30. The notion that 28 rounds is better is because those people lack the training and or strength to fully sit a full mag with the bolt forward so it’s easier for them to load. I say put down the soy milk and pick up some weights but that’s just me.
sarduy
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No, that’s to make sure it’s fully seated regardless the round count.
sarduy
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Did you charged the gun after inserting the mag?
CapnMac
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Nope, just not tough enough to even try. By reputation they are gameier than sow coon fat, and that's through and through. (Unlike a feral pig, where, if you remove the fat, you remove much of the strong taste.)
I know there are some vaqueros that swear by roasting them, but that's probably right up there with gar and carp--not my speed.
In the late seventies my USMC DI read us the gospel of downloading our 20 round mags by two. It seemed that there was an issue with fully loaded magazines in the jungle. I do not know if it was the springs, the humidity, or all of the above.
As a young chemist I had the privilege of working with a former Marine who years earlier had served in the central highlands of Vietnam in 1966. I already had my interest in rifles then, and had asked him for his opinion on the M-16. He told me that if it was well maintained / cared for, he and those in his platoon had no trouble…but he did stress that they only loaded 18 in a 20 round magazine, because it could otherwise feed improperly and jam. If i remember correctly, he said that the issue was spot welded magazines that were not properly assembled, unlike the seam welded magazines which did not have the issue.
He told about an incident in which they were coming into an LZ and had received permission to chamber a round, and a newer member had not followed the advice to load 18, and had a jam. My colleague reported that two more senior members were able to disassemble, clear the jam, and reassemble in the less than two minutes before they landed. I was impressed.
One other item i remember…he used the plastic wrapper from a ration spoon to cover the muzzle of the rifle…as long as he was careful when removing the spoon, the wrapper fit well and stayed in place until the first shot.
He was a very kind and patient colleague to a lot of us new to the company…we were truly better for having known him.
marksman13
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I’d bet he did. I’ve seen the same thing happen with a fully loaded mag, especially plastic mags. When fully loaded, they can create just enough friction to hold themselves in the mag well without fully seating and locking in place. Give the charging handle a yank and they’ll usually just fall out, but not always. Sometimes, they’ll give you an awesome surprise and let you believe you are ready to rock and roll. Then you rotate from safe to fire and get a “click” because the mag wasn’t fully seated and therefor was sitting too low in the mag well for the bolt to pick up a round from the magazine. I’ve seen it a few times.
stillquietvoice
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Annealed. Are always fully loaded, were restricted enough here in NY
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I had a great recipe for the Javi’s while I lived there. First, you need to cut the meat really thin. Marinate overnight in brine & used my special rub. Roast it low & slow.
Then DUMP the whole lot in the garbage & order a pizza!
For mag loading: I’ve been using Magpul PMAG’s since they first came out & loaded them 30rds every one. My Father(rest his soul) was a Marine during Vietnam. He wa in country ‘69-‘70 & his Platoon was one of the last to trade their M14’s for M16’s. He absolutely loved his. He never mentioned loading only 18rds. I’ve done considerable research on the matter, and it’s not something I’ve come across either.
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daniel craig
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Yep! Think about it if you had two rounds less in every one of your magazines you could potentially be shorting yourself 20 rounds from a full combat load. 20 rounds is a significant amount of ammo.
daniel craig
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Personally I find it less to be about soy milk and just the fact that it works fine with 30 rounds and if I short change myself two rounds over 10 magazines which I would conceivably be carrying then I would be down 20 rounds. That's a significant amount of ammo and a situation where an extra round or two can easily save your life.
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That's what I thought.
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