2 less than max in an AR mag. Do you?
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herrwalther
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I don't either. But that is because my dog likes to run off with my shoes sometimes. Doesn't destroy them. Just hides them behind the couch or something.
I load my mags to 29. Even when I was in the military. The couple times I did run out and had to grab more, I ran out by a lot. An extra 10 or so rounds would not have made a peep of difference. Whenever I stepped outside the wire, one mag inserted, one in my back pocket, 6 on my plate carrier. I kept another 6 in a bandoleer in my assault bag. And about 40 stayed in the truck on a mounted mission. For dismounted, I usually bumped my 6 in bag to 8.
Ignition Override
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How would the Ukrainian Army load their M4 magazines for the best reliability after they became familiar with them?
We all know that they normally used Russian-manufactured weapons (AK-74 etc), but my question should be valid.
We all know that they normally used Russian-manufactured weapons (AK-74 etc), but my question should be valid.
Buzznrose
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For me, I load magazines to capacity and then check if they still have a bit of give (so I could almost seat another round). If they have that give, I keep them full. If not, I download by one.
I do this so that under stress, I can more easily seat a mag on a closed bolt.
At my last Gunsite class (7 years ago), I was in the final shoot off at the end of the week. I had made it through two elimination shoots already and was in the last. The shoot was draw, engage three small targets, perform a reload, and shoot my side of a split metal popper, and be faster than your opponent.
I was ahead and got to the popper. My pistol still had rounds, so as before, the slide was forward. I swiftly dropped the mag and reinserted the fresh mag, aimed, and fired quickly at the popper. Miss. No problem, opponent was just starting his mag change. Slowed down, focused on the sight, and pressed the trigger….click! Immediately went to do a tap-rack-fire when the magazine fell out of the pistol onto the ground. I immediately went for a new mag and just as I was seating it, “bang”…opponent dropped the popper. I finished the reload, and dropped my popper…and lost.
I had just gone through 4 1/2 days of quality training and done many many mag changes on full mags. Never had the issue until it was under the pressure of winning the silver raven pin. Thought about that the whole rest of the day and the drive back to San Antonio from North AZ.
If it is a mag for SD/competition, and if the mag is very tight when fully loaded, I download by one.
YMMV
I do this so that under stress, I can more easily seat a mag on a closed bolt.
At my last Gunsite class (7 years ago), I was in the final shoot off at the end of the week. I had made it through two elimination shoots already and was in the last. The shoot was draw, engage three small targets, perform a reload, and shoot my side of a split metal popper, and be faster than your opponent.
I was ahead and got to the popper. My pistol still had rounds, so as before, the slide was forward. I swiftly dropped the mag and reinserted the fresh mag, aimed, and fired quickly at the popper. Miss. No problem, opponent was just starting his mag change. Slowed down, focused on the sight, and pressed the trigger….click! Immediately went to do a tap-rack-fire when the magazine fell out of the pistol onto the ground. I immediately went for a new mag and just as I was seating it, “bang”…opponent dropped the popper. I finished the reload, and dropped my popper…and lost.
I had just gone through 4 1/2 days of quality training and done many many mag changes on full mags. Never had the issue until it was under the pressure of winning the silver raven pin. Thought about that the whole rest of the day and the drive back to San Antonio from North AZ.
If it is a mag for SD/competition, and if the mag is very tight when fully loaded, I download by one.
YMMV
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I use to have a Sterling MK.VI and you're right: those magazines were a work of art! Never a problem of any kind with those mags, they were super reliable, plus they were real easy to load. A little pricey but I stocked up on them whenever I got the chance. I still only loaded them up with 30 rounds as it was easier to keep track of rounds loaded, mostly when I was using WWB 100 count ammo. Had a lot of fun with it but man, we burned through a lot of ammo really fast with it!
Also I seemed to recall reading somewhere that the Sterling was designed to take STEN mags so I bought a bunch of them (something like $5 a piece at the time), and downloaded them by two rounds as well. They ran perfectly and I never had a problem with any of them.
I use to have a Sterling MK.VI and you're right: those magazines were a work of art! Never a problem of any kind with those mags, they were super reliable, plus they were real easy to load. A little pricey but I stocked up on them whenever I got the chance. I still only loaded them up with 30 rounds as it was easier to keep track of rounds loaded, mostly when I was using WWB 100 count ammo. Had a lot of fun with it but man, we burned through a lot of ammo really fast with it!
Also I seemed to recall reading somewhere that the Sterling was designed to take STEN mags so I bought a bunch of them (something like $5 a piece at the time), and downloaded them by two rounds as well. They ran perfectly and I never had a problem with any of them.
Bcwitt
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I load my 30rd mags w 20 each. I keep strippers & chargers w my rig. If i need fire power immediately, i have it. Ifi have a few seconds, i top them off. Longevity depends greatly on the alloy & temperment of the wire. Why chance it?
RetiredUSNChief
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Magazines are cheap.
If people are worried about quality, then buy quality and quit worrying about it. If the magazines aren't holding up to their design capacity, then they suck and ought to be replaced.
10, 20, or 30 round magazines... load them to 10, 20, or 30 rounds and be done with it.
However... if people CHOOSE to do otherwise for (reasons) so be it. To each their own.
But if people are doing so because of a problem with the magazine, then they are choosing to live with the problem instead of fixing it.
If people are worried about quality, then buy quality and quit worrying about it. If the magazines aren't holding up to their design capacity, then they suck and ought to be replaced.
10, 20, or 30 round magazines... load them to 10, 20, or 30 rounds and be done with it.
However... if people CHOOSE to do otherwise for (reasons) so be it. To each their own.
But if people are doing so because of a problem with the magazine, then they are choosing to live with the problem instead of fixing it.
Charlie98
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Interesting...
As I mentioned previously, I only download my magazines 1 round... it solves the problem of having to muscle the mag in to guarantee a magazine lock on a closed bolt. I'm not sure where the '2 round' thing came from. Aside from having a even amount of rounds in the magazine, I don't see any reason to download 2 rounds vs 1 round to get the magazine to lock.
As I mentioned previously, I only download my magazines 1 round... it solves the problem of having to muscle the mag in to guarantee a magazine lock on a closed bolt. I'm not sure where the '2 round' thing came from. Aside from having a even amount of rounds in the magazine, I don't see any reason to download 2 rounds vs 1 round to get the magazine to lock.
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