tws3b2
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I can find plenty of most other handgun calibers on the shelves. I can find plenty of 38spl. FMJ and 38spl +P JHP but no 38spl jhp. Am I the only one left that doesn't care for +p??
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aaaaa
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I can't gind 44 Special and when I see it online it is around $1.50 a round. I have an order with Cavalryammunition.com but they have to make up some more as they ran out. Cavalry is under a buck a round though.
WisBorn
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I see on Percision One Ammo website that they have 125 jhp at 925fps 38 special for $39.99 for 50. I have ordered from them in the past and stopped by there store in Charleston SC.
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Oldschool shooter
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I passed on 44 sock today at LGS, LRN at $45
GJeffB
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tws3b2, I seem to be misunderstanding. In my case, any .38spl high performance is hard to find at any "decent" price. I guess my question(s) is/are:
1. Why the aversion to .38 jhp +P, unless your gun is not +P rated, and/or
2. Why the aversion to .38 jhp +P, unless it's a price issue?
If 1. I'd call it a moot point, and go with any 158 LSWC if available; if 2. I get it, I hate paying the tariff. If it's outrageous, I'm satisfied, if not ecstatic, about the same 158 LSWC.
Either way, I'm right there with you
-jb, I pays my money and takes my choices
1. Why the aversion to .38 jhp +P, unless your gun is not +P rated, and/or
2. Why the aversion to .38 jhp +P, unless it's a price issue?
If 1. I'd call it a moot point, and go with any 158 LSWC if available; if 2. I get it, I hate paying the tariff. If it's outrageous, I'm satisfied, if not ecstatic, about the same 158 LSWC.
Either way, I'm right there with you
-jb, I pays my money and takes my choices
Selective ammo choice to get a load (+P or not) that penetrates at least 12'' and consistently expands:
https://www.luckygunner.com/labs/revolver-ballistics-test/
https://www.luckygunner.com/labs/revolver-ballistics-test/
jar
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tws3b2, I seem to be misunderstanding. In my case, any .38spl high performance is hard to find at any "decent" price. I guess my question(s) is/are:
1. Why the aversion to .38 jhp +P, unless your gun is not +P rated, and/or
2. Why the aversion to .38 jhp +P, unless it's a price issue?
If 1. I'd call it a moot point, and go with any 158 LSWC if available; if 2. I get it, I hate paying the tariff. If it's outrageous, I'm satisfied, if not ecstatic, about the same 158 LSWC.
Either way, I'm right there with you
-jb, I pays my money and takes my choices
Never quite understood +P ammo. I will always choose standard rather than +P for my handguns.
Was actually shooting some OLD Triton 185gr JHP +P (from the original company not the Miami folk that bought the name) and while it functioned adequately it was noticeably harder to return to POA and definitely harder on the gun.
aaaaa
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Thanks for posting that. I have been to that site a lot but missed this article, which is a key article since the J-frame will be my primary carry.
DustyGmt
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I had trouble locating any non +p 125 jhp but did find most of the 158gr jhp were mostly standard pressure. I have an older Colt .38spl that I didn't want to shoot +P out of although I'm told that today's +P is more like standard pressure of 40+ years ago but I still don't shoot +P in that revolver because I could never get a straight verdict on whether it was ok or not so I went with Buffalo Bore standard pressure 150gr hard cast WC's for my .38spl
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tws3b2
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My S&W 642-1 is not stamped +P. S&W says it's not stamped +P because it was not tested with +P. Even though most were tested with it some were not. I've shot +P in my gun and it does fine. But, I just don't like shooting +P. Just don't.tws3b2, I seem to be misunderstanding. In my case, any .38spl high performance is hard to find at any "decent" price. I guess my question(s) is/are:
1. Why the aversion to .38 jhp +P, unless your gun is not +P rated, and/or
2. Why the aversion to .38 jhp +P, unless it's a price issue?
If 1. I'd call it a moot point, and go with any 158 LSWC if available; if 2. I get it, I hate paying the tariff. If it's outrageous, I'm satisfied, if not ecstatic, about the same 158 LSWC.
Either way, I'm right there with you
-jb, I pays my money and takes my choices
aaaaa
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That is odd, but maybe the +p stamp came in at a later iteration. Mine is marked +p and is a 642-2.
epags
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Two months ago @ my LGS the 38spl 110 JHPs were $75 for 50 tax inlcuded. I wanted some factory loads for my ccw backup so I bit the bullet (pun intended) and bought a box.
I don't shoot anything +P, my take is it is fine, but - I just don't. Some of the lighter weight factory self defense ammo for .38 Special at 115 grain or whatever, is going to get going a bit faster than a 158 grain common weight, so - I figure it is likely to expand. I have a few boxes of it for a Model 10, and it was expensive 3 or so years ago when I bought it. I don't even want to know what it costs now, but - for a few boxes, some good factory ammo is probably worth having.
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