Rem Arms, 700 Alpha 1

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Picher said:
I've always liked Remington 700 actions and have several that always went BANG! when I wanted them to. They are also easy to glassbed well and accuracy is fantastic. I've won lots of turkey shoots with my 700s and they never failed me, whether shooting factory or my handloads. My Savage bolt action was okay, but had a maximum-sized chamber, so it was not sharing handloads with my "Win 70 buddies rifles" well.
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BTW: My girlfriend wanted to get married in 1965, but I told her we couldn't until I got a reloading press, because I probably wouldn't be able to get set-up with reloading and wouldn't be able to afford a lot of factory ammo for a while. She fell for that story and I got my new press for Christmas. We had a June wedding that next summer and I stopped loading ammo long enough to get married! LOL!
 
All the changes look like good ones to me. If I were in the market for a new hunting rifle I would look closely at it. I wouldn’t have given you a dollar for one 5 years ago.

I’m curious how much if any of the former management went with the company. The people responsible for covering up the trigger scandal should be in prison rather than in a board room, but I have no idea if any of them are left.
 
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All the changes look like good ones to me. If I were in the market for a new hunting rifle I would look closely at it. I wouldn’t have given you a dollar for one 5 years ago.

I’m curious how much if any of the former management went with the company. The people responsible for covering up the trigger scandal should be in prison rather than in a board room, but I have no idea if any of them are left.
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What trigger cover up? Or did you mean big news media railroad? No one has been able to show a repeatable set of criteria that caused any variety of 700 fire-control to fail. Not the defendants, not the plaintiffs, not any of the third party experts on either side of those various lawsuits that the parties turned too. If the plaintiffs and their experts could have the various cases would have been won instead of settled out of court. JMHO, I don't think there was a trigger cover up. I think the origin Walker trigger is still a good trigger, and still one, with very minor changes, in use today by the Marines and others as the 40X trigger. As for the X -Mark Pro (replacement of the Walker), there was a minor assembly problem (too much thread locker) with a batch and they where recalled and replaced. The media has conflated and made a giant mountain out of the various separate but tiny mole hills over the years. Most of the news stories don't even realize there where two distinct fire-controls involved in various different law suits.

As for Remington management, between 2015 and the death of Remington in 2020, the company had four CEOs. With that much turn over at the top, the senior management usually gets chewed up and spit out in short order as each new CEO brings in their favorite cronies into position they feel are critical. The final CEO at the top of The Remington Outdoor Company remained through the second and final bankruptcy into what became Rem Arms LLC, Ken D'arcy. Very few of the rest of the senior leadership that were their prior to the second bankruptcy survived into Rem Arms LLC (except fore mentioned cronies). Most left or where let go by D'Arcy before the second bankruptcy. The new Rem Arms LLC is a private company run by D'arcy and his financial backers.

I personally would take a single pre-D'Arcy 700 over a palette of Rem Arms LLC firearms. The most accurate rifle I currently own is a factory made Remington 700 action and barrel made in early 2019.
 
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What trigger cover up? Or did you mean big news media railroad? No one has been able to show a repeatable set of criteria that caused any variety of 700 fire-control to fail. Not the defendants, not the plaintiffs, not any of the third party experts on either side of those various lawsuits that the parties turned too. If the plaintiffs and their experts could have the various cases would have been won instead of settled out of court. JMHO, I don't think there was a trigger cover up. I think the origin Walker trigger is still a good trigger, and still one, with very minor changes, in use today by the Marines and others as the 40X trigger. As for the X -Mark Pro (replacement of the Walker), there was a minor assembly problem (too much thread locker) with a batch and they where recalled and replaced. The media has conflated and made a giant mountain out of the various separate but tiny mole hills over the years. Most of the news stories don't even realize there where two distinct fire-controls involved in various different law suits.

As for Remington management, between 2015 and the death of Remington in 2020, the company had four CEOs. With that much turn over at the top, the senior management usually gets chewed up and spit out in short order as each new CEO brings in their favorite cronies into position they feel are critical. The final CEO at the top of The Remington Outdoor Company remained through the second and final bankruptcy into what became Rem Arms LLC, Ken D'arcy. Very few of the rest of the senior leadership that were their prior to the second bankruptcy survived into Rem Arms LLC (except fore mentioned cronies). Most left or where let go by D'Arcy before the second bankruptcy. The new Rem Arms LLC is a private company run by D'arcy and his financial backers.

I personally would take a single pre-D'Arcy 700 over a palette of Rem Arms LLC firearms. The most accurate rifle I currently own is a factory made Remington 700 action and barrel made in early 2019.
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It happened to my wife when she was about 14 years old. It was a brand new 700 in 243 that my father in law bought her. Was the first box of ammo ever put through it and she never shot a firearm again.
 
mcb said:
What trigger cover up? Or did you mean big news media railroad? No one has been able to show a repeatable set of criteria that caused any variety of 700 fire-control to fail. Not the defendants, not the plaintiffs, not any of the third party experts on either side of those various lawsuits that the parties turned too. If the plaintiffs and their experts could have the various cases would have been won instead of settled out of court. JMHO, I don't think there was a trigger cover up. I think the origin Walker trigger is still a good trigger, and still one, with very minor changes, in use today by the Marines and others as the 40X trigger. As for the X -Mark Pro (replacement of the Walker), there was a minor assembly problem (too much thread locker) with a batch and they where recalled and replaced. The media has conflated and made a giant mountain out of the various separate but tiny mole hills over the years. Most of the news stories don't even realize there where two distinct fire-controls involved in various different law suits.

As for Remington management, between 2015 and the death of Remington in 2020, the company had four CEOs. With that much turn over at the top, the senior management usually gets chewed up and spit out in short order as each new CEO brings in their favorite cronies into position they feel are critical. The final CEO at the top of The Remington Outdoor Company remained through the second and final bankruptcy into what became Rem Arms LLC, Ken D'arcy. Very few of the rest of the senior leadership that were their prior to the second bankruptcy survived into Rem Arms LLC (except fore mentioned cronies). Most left or where let go by D'Arcy before the second bankruptcy. The new Rem Arms LLC is a private company run by D'arcy and his financial backers.

I personally would take a single pre-D'Arcy 700 over a palette of Rem Arms LLC firearms. The most accurate rifle I currently own is a factory made Remington 700 action and barrel made in early 2019.
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FWIW, my 2015 vintage of the much maligned 870 Express has been a solid gun.
 
Any trigger in an enclosed housing like the 700 has is liable to fail if it's not taken care of.As for the Bergara/Christensen and other 700 clones,they're just better made firearms based on a 700 type action.I've seen some great clones,and I've seen some real dogs.I have a Christensen Mesa 300 Win Mag that's a real dog.Put the muzzle break on and it's good for 4 inch 3 shot groups.Take the brake off,and it'll almost live up to its 1 MOA guarentee.It appears to be well done up,bedding,etc. looks right,but it's a long way from what I'd call worth the money.Bergara seems to be the most consistent,and most of the ones I set up are great shooters out of the box.Sadly,the older Remingtons would shoot and work better than the clones,but those days are long past.The later Remingtons were a crapshoot,you may get a good one,you may get a piece of junk.
 
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