Why I Can’t Buy a Sig SF Pistol

Was the first thing I noticed about my M&P, which I purchased anyway. Before that my only experience was with first Gen Glock pistols and they too exhibited a slight slide lift. It don’t bother ME none (said in my hillbilly voice). No reason it should bother you either when you were unaware before it being pointed out. Blithely ignore it or lose money, makes no difference to the pistol.

JTQ said:

Arggh, it's DA/SA

The guns start out in Double Action (DA) and subsequent shots are Single Action (SA), hence the proper abbreviation of DA/SA. However, if you have a SIG that shoots the first shot SA and all subsequent shots are DA, without you constantly decocking the gun, I stand corrected.

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Actually it’s just DA or TDA as in “Traditional double action”. The DA is understood to mean a traditional double action when the first shot is DA and all subsequent shots are SA. And least we forget, everyone’s red headed stepchild, DAO

Buzznrose said:

But the reason I couldn’t keep the SF Sigs I’d bought (P320X Compact, P365XL, and M18) is the way the slide rises a bit when I press the trigger. Drives me nuts.

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9mmepiphany said:

I don't think I've ever run across a polymer framed pistol where the slide didn't raise when the trigger is pressed. It is an artifact of the slide's rails sliding on the frame with limited contact between the two

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@Buzznrose I hope @9mmepiphany excellent explanation does not ruin all striker-fired guns for you.

Ok, I checked one of my SF SIGs, and I couldn't detect the slide lift. I even took videos of the back and side and still couldn't detect it. Either this XTEN doesn't exhibit this phenomenon, or the movement is so minute that my eyes can't pick it up. (Whew!)

I actually carry a Glock (sometimes, though more often a S&W J-frame) and have only just added my first SIG (w/o Sauer) handgun, a Swiss P47 ...



... however my buddy Bob has two .45 SIG-Sauer P220s on his permit. He seems to shoot them more accurately than anything else either of us owns, and the guns never seem to jam, so maybe he knows something I don't. I'm still sticking with my Glock as a CCW piece though.

BTW, if you're curious about the relationship of the 3 corporate faces of SIG firearms, this short video provides the 411:

My remaining Sig is the commercial P 225, proofed in Kiel Germany. The much more well-known P6 originated as a 225. The stock 225 DA pull certainly is better than the P6’s DA—we know the reason.

The OP’s comments hurt my ‘gun feelings’ , Boo hoo !
but luckily I also have a CZ PCR to repair my thin skin….

Maybe the OP has a chance to Czech out a similar, or striker-fired CZ?

earlthegoat2:
I tried a DAO Sig P229 (LEO turn-in) with possibly the smoothest trigger I’ve Ever sampled in any handgun! 7 lbs and i didnt feel any stacking—//—//::,,,,,

Wish I had known about a local example for sale—oh man—-

Buzznrose said:

Guess you didn’t read my posts….

I am primarily a striker fire pistol shooter.

Vast majority of my pistols are SF. Glocks mostly with some XDm’s, an M&P, and a Walther.

Sig was a decent shooter…just not enough for me to keep.

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Yes, I read your posts; you said you couldn't deal with Sigs after it was brought to your attention that the slides rise when you press the trigger.

Buzznrose said:

But the reason I couldn’t keep the SF Sigs I’d bought (P320X Compact, P365XL, and M18) is the way the slide rises a bit when I press the trigger. Drives me nuts. ...

So many folks like these guns…and I want to like them. But until I can find one that doesn’t lift the slide when I press the trigger, I’m just not interested.

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I hope you don't develop the same mental block about your other striker-fired guns now that it has been pointed out that the slide rising when the trigger is pulled is not unique to Sig pistols, but is basically inherent in the design of striker-fired guns.

I'm not looking at the slide while I'm shooting....

Never noticed this, but now that I know, I'm selling all my Sigs.....NOT

I'm going through my pistols that I've recently shot and giving them a wipe down to pass the time until I can go to bed early tonight for the rifle deer season opener tomorrow and I checked my six Sig striker fired pistols to see how many of them move the slide.And the results are-envelope and drumroll please-P320 M17 version-moves.P320 compact 45ACP version-moves.P320 Wilson Combat Enhanced version-no movement.P365 black color-no movement.P365 Brown/tan-moves.P365XL-no movement.I also checked some of my hammer fired pistols and they don't move.I don't have any striker fired guns other than the Sigs,so I can't comment on them.The M17 has the most movement of all of them,and I shoot it better than any of them,including the Wilson Combat version.It's nothing more than a little bit of slop in the slide rail and the FCU rails.The fact that the loosest one of the bunch is probably the best shooting one of the bunch says that little bit of play is in no way detrimental to the pistols' function and accuracy.Also,every one of them loses any and all movement when there is a single round in the magazine.Now,back to wiping them down since I'm not going to sell them because the slides wiggle.

This is like people obsessing over hammer-fired guns when the hammer cams back to overcome positive sear engagement as the trigger is pulled. Except that happens whenever hammer-fired guns are fired, while striker-fired guns' slides only move when there is no pressure on the slide from a round in the magazine.

Buzznrose said:

Obsessive?

Do you dry fire much? For someone who doesn’t, I guess it’s not an issue.

I do dry fire, and it was a distraction for me.

Again, just me…my opinion on how it affects me.

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You are certainly entitled to your opinion and complaint, although others who might be similarly bothered should know there is a simple solution for the issue.

Load a magazine with snap caps and pressure from the magazine will keep the slide from moving when dry firing.