If you don't vote like a gun owner, YOU SUCK!

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Ran across this on the Dillon website. Its pretty funny, I imagine there are some folks on here who resemble his remarks. There's also an accurate prediction.

Its a bit dated, but timeless at the same time. I hope it hasn't been posted before.

Written by: Peter Caroline

This article originally appeared in the August 2000 issue of “The Blue Pressâ€,
the catalog of Dillon Precision Products, Inc. (www.dillonprecision.com)

Editor's Note: While we're certain that the sentiments expressed in this
editorial don't apply to regular Blue Press readers, we're pretty confident that
most of you know gun owners to whom these sentiments DO apply -- if so, please
pass this article on. Disclaimer: The opinions expressed herein are solely those
of the author, although ours are similar.

By Peter Caroline

According to most estimates, there are between 75 and 80 million adult gun
owners in the United States. That's more people than voted in the last
presidential election. So why is it, when there are so many gun owners, that we
are not the DOMINANT voting bloc in this country? Because most of that 75-80
million are stupid, lazy, hypocritical barfbags. Well, I'd like to say something
to that group.

Sure, you drive around in a pickup truck with a gunrack and some hairy-chested
bumper stickers, and you talk big at the gun shop or the Legion Hall. But will
you shell out 35 bucks and join the NRA? Oh, you don't agree with the NRA's
stance on this or that, or the NRA is too soft on something or too unyielding on
something else? Or maybe long ago the NRA didn't send you your free cap or
bullet key ring on time. Well, you know what? That's a dumb cop-out and you're
an butt. Whether you like it or not, the NRA is the only...I repeat ONLY,
effective representation you have in the cesspool of Washington politics. Even
the NRA's worst enemies -- YOUR worst enemies if you have the capacity to think
about it -- agree that it's one of the most powerful lobbying forces on Capitol
Hill. That means no one else fights your battles for you better, and if you
don't understand that simple fact, you're too dumb to exist!

OK, you don't give a damn about the NRA but you still want to keep your guns. So
why, in the name of all that is holy, do you vote for "gun-ban" candidates? Oh,
you don't? So who does? Maybe it's all those other people who were voting while
you were sucking a brewski and watching the game on TV. Or maybe you're a good
union guy, and the union votes Democrat.

Some years ago, Mario Cuomo, a dedicated anti-gunner who happened to be governor
of New York, described gun owners in a most uncomplimentary fashion. But the
most damning thing he said about gun owners is that they don't vote, and
therefore should not be considered as a factor in any election. How about that?
Mario Cuomo is a liberal Democrat and, as such, is wrong about most everything,
but he's absolutely right about you. And I can prove it. If you non-voting gun
owners in New York State did get off your asses and vote like gun owners,
obscenities like Mario Cuomo couldn't even be elected as dog catcher. The same
goes for Charles Schumer; he wasn't bad enough as a congressman from Brooklyn;
you dumb schmucks had to let him become a senator! What's next...Hillary?

Then there's my old home state of Massachusetts. Over one million Massachusetts
gun owners must be really proud to claim Teddy Kennedy as their senator. And
John Kerry, the Kennedy clone, is no better. The entire Massachusetts
congressional delegation, both gay and straight, is anti-gun. And you Bay State
gun owners are the dildoes that put them in office! Because you sat on your fat
asses, you've got Chapter 180 -- aptly named because it turns your gun rights
around 180 degrees -- and you've got an attorney general who wants to be
governor and thinks every handgun is a faulty consumer product. Once again,
Massachusetts gun owners, where were you on Election Day?

Look at every state with asinine, repressive gun laws and a preponderance of
anti-gun politicians -- California, New Jersey, Connecticut, Maryland...to cite
several horrible examples -- and you will find enough gun owners to form an
unbeatable voting bloc, IF they would get their thumbs out of their butts and
vote, for a change. Jeez, what a concept!

We all know the excuses: I'm too busy, my vote doesn't count, they're all crooks
and it doesn't make any difference, I gave $5 to Quail Unlimited so I don't need
to vote, yadda, yadda, yadda. Well, here's the bottom line...your vote does not
count if you don't use it. If you don't vote, then effectively you are on the
same side as Rosie (I'm-not-a-hypocrite) O'Donnell, Sarah Brady, Bill and
Hillary, Al Gore, Teddy Kennedy, Charles Schumer and every other low-life bottom
feeder who knows what's best for you. If you don't vote like a gun owner, you
are a butt-boy for the anti-gunners, and you bend over forward to please them.

Think about it. 75-80 million gun owners in this country; only 3.6 million NRA
members, and who knows how many active pro-gun-voting gun owners. You can argue
all you want about your inalienable rights. Rights are like body parts; they
only work if you exercise them. And yours are looking pretty flaccid right now.
If you don't vote in the next election, your enemies will elect a president who
will be able to name three or four new Supreme Court justices. Which means that
by the 2004 election, you will have no guns. And shortly after that, you will
have no vote and no rights. And you know what? If you let that happen, it will
be exactly what you deserve!
 
Can't speak for others but I always vote my gun rights. I can't speak as to the whys and wherefores of other folks. I suppose we really should be more of a force than we are. Guess we'll just have to work harder to get the troops out there during elections.
 
There seems to be more than a bit of NRA bashing that goes on here too....You know, "Showing their real agenda". I guess I can only attribute that to the conspiracy crazed Libertarians.

Minus the conspiracy garbage they're not a bad lot.

My favorite part is when he uses the word "BARFBAG". Now, you don't see that word used in this context very often.
 
I know where this guy is coming from. I am personally acquainted with *people who own guns* who actually consciously and deliberately vote for rabidly anti-gun candidates. I don't know why they do these things. Maybe they have multiple personality disorders, or maybe they're just not very bright. Anyway, it drives me crazy.

Tim
 
They do it because gun ownership does not automatically translate into a freedom mentality. I know several people who are absolute "gun-nuts". They love shooting, hunting, even believe in self defense...so long as government approves. When government chooses to NOT approve any longer they will hand their firearms in.

Voting for anti-gun candidates? They don't see the issue. There are other things they value more(usually getting the biggest hand-out possible) and they don't even try to connect the idea the anti-gun candidate will be the cause of why government ceases to approve and thus why they will "have" to hand in their firearms at some point. It's a logical disconnect or fact of willing submission or perhaps simple greed. Combine those any way you want.
 
The same goes for Charles Schumer; he wasn't bad enough as a congressman from Brooklyn; you dumb schmucks had to let him become a senator! What's next...Hillary?

He saw beyond his time... (Damn it)
 
What is exceptionally entertaining is the "second amendment comes last" group, who say that without the right of free speech and the "guarantee" of the fourth amendment, there will be no way you can bitch about your rights under the second amendment being taken away.

You know it's true, because bitching at problems makes them go away. Then again, I tend to view all of our civil rights on equal footing.
 
I quit paying NRA dues when I figured out that they were just a Republican fund raising organization. I also quit paying dues to AARP.

Since I don't belong anymore, I don't know, but I have been getting GOA (of which I am a member) emails for the last few days asking me to contact my congress critters about the HR418? bill about the national ID. Has NRA been contacting their members?

Just curious, but I have a feeling.

We are best known by our deeds, not our words.
 
GOA contacted me about HR 418.

Haven't heard anything about it from the NRA and don't anticipate that I will. I keep getting their monthly send us more money letter though for this that or the other thing.

Know what I mean Vern? Huh? Do ya? Huh?

I belong to the NRA because I have to to be a member of the gun club whose range I use. American Rifleman's not a bad read either. I do resent however, being asked to put them in my will - almost quit the first time I got one of those letters. Now I just ignore 'em.
 
Just to play devil's advocate, but political elections are about a lot more than gun owner's rights. Things like the economy, education, and health care concern me too. I can't think of a good example off the top of my head, but some pro gun political candidates have very poor domestic and foreign policy ideas.
 
Just to play devil's advocate, but political elections are about a lot more than gun owner's rights. Things like the economy, education, and health care concern me too. I can't think of a good example off the top of my head, but some pro gun political candidates have very poor domestic and foreign policy ideas.

Correct. But next to the right to self-defense and self-preservation, these issue are about as important as a fart in a hurricane. Without the Second Amendment the rest of the Constitution is just so many words on paper (and, judging from all the murdered kids and spouses every year found literally clutching a restraining order, words on paper are real effective at protecting us. Right?).

Surrendering the right to Keep and Bear Arms in the name of something, anything, else, is ultimately self-defeating.

Brad
 
IMO one issue voters suck. Sometimes it seems like the gun culture would vote for someone pissing on the constitution as long as they are holding a gun when they do it.

Anyway, the 2nd is not the most important amendment, and if I could only keep one amendment, it would be the 9th

The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.
 
IMO one issue voters suck. Sometimes it seems like the gun culture would vote for someone pissing on the constitution as long as they are holding a gun when they do it.

Well, there you go....Someone out thinking themselves again. Some issues are important and some are not. I value my life and my right to protect my life above any of the "cosmopolitan" social issues.
 
Some have said GOA, not the NRA is the best representative we have in DC. I know the NRA supports anti-gun legislation when it suits them. I will not be renewing my membership when it expires. I'll continue as member in GOA and the Second Amendment Foundation.
 
The GOA hasn't really done anything to speak of. They can brag about how they don't compromise but they haven't shown any results. Look at every election or Bill that's fought on the local, state or national scale and the anti's always blame the NRA.

Just recently, the National Review had an article called High Caliber Advocacy : How the NRA won the fight over gun rights by John J Miller. The GOA should study it. They might learn something.
 
I quit paying NRA dues when I figured out that they were just a Republican fund raising organization. I also quit paying dues to AARP.
Since I don't belong anymore, I don't know, but I have been getting GOA (of which I am a member) emails for the last few days asking me to contact my congress critters about the HR418? bill about the national ID. Has NRA been contacting their members?

What exactly does HR4148 have to do with gun ownership? The answer is nothing and the NRA is 100% correct to keep their noses out of it....Let the ACLU do something good if there is a reason for it.

Are you folks so politically naive to think the NRA needs to back everything 100% and hard line every issue? Its called "politics" for a reason.....There is give and take in everything. Hardline stances on everything gets NOTHING accomplished. You should be GLAD the NRA hasn't mass mailed you about this bill.

The GOA hasn't really done anything to speak of. They can brag about how they don't compromise but they haven't shown any results. Look at every election or Bill that's fought on the local, state or national scale and the anti's always blame the NRA.

BINGO!! Yet they say all the right things and support every wacko cause out there.....That is money being spent wisely!!! They don't compromise, and they don't deliver........in politics and life, compromise is necessary or you accomplish nothing.

You are a smart man 2.5. If we could only convince a few of the conspiracy theorists around here to think the same way the NRA could do more than they already do. Sounds to me like GOA is pandering to your fears. Saying all the right things and doing nothing.
 
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I value my life and my right to protect my life above any of the "cosmopolitan" social issues.

Which isn't the second amendment, but the ninth...

What are you going to do with the 9th if you don't have the 2nd? Throw insults?
 
And if you didn't have the ninth, you'd be jailed for using the arms you bore under the second in self-defence.
 
Yo, Mr. shoudek, I was just asking a question

about whether or not the NRA was interested enough in the national ID bill to ask it's membership. I guess the answer was no.

If you didn't think it was important..........Well, I guess you are the kind of guy the NRA is looking for. Enjoy.

Edited because I forgot to ask......Is duck season over?
 
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Second Amendment rights come first when I'm deciding how (or *if*) I'm going to vote, every time since I first voted in 1976. But right now I'm pretty worried about the other nine rights in the Bill of Rights too. :(

I just wish I had the money to go on a gun, ammo, and accessory buying spree, before I'm required to have an RFID chip to do it. :uhoh:

The semiautos I've got now are probably okay, though they might be able to use a little tweaking. I'd actually like to pick up a couple of good bolt action rifles -- a general purpose one, such as a Steyr Scout rifle, and a heavy, long-range .50 BMG rifle of some kind (which would be pretty useless to me where I am now, but might be just the thing if I ever get firmly ensconced out in the boondocks somewhere, and want to cover the approaching drive). The clock seems to be ticking.

Sterc
 
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