Man finds state trooper's assault rifle, ammo in road

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many years ago i dated a girl who worked on North Clark street in Chicago. Lots of cops came into her place for lunch, and dinner, and when ever they decided the battery in the radio died. . . anyway one day i pick her up from the shop and she has a huge smile on her face, and she hands me a bag. In the bag is a big sandwich and a dishtowel. In the dishtowel is wrapped a model 669 S&W and badge holder. I just about fainted when i saw that piece sitting there. I was I think 19 at the time. I asked where in the H"""' she got it and she some fat cop had come in and taken it off because it stuck into his belly every time he sat down,and left it on the table when he left, I said why did you keep it and she said...."he never tips"

I dated her for the rest of the summer and she said He never asked about it and the next time he was in he did the same thing, only stopped at the door and walked back to pick them both up.

my nephew worked for a while at a local ford dealership that serviced LEO cars. He said they came in all the time with gun cases in the trunks or in racks and the racks were all installed by the dealership and they all operated on one key, not just the racks but ALL the cop cars had the same key.

Big stink there one day, cops hasseling everyone looking for a 37 mm street sweeper gas gun, turned out cop had grabbed it and tossed it into the trunk of the car that picked him up...his wifes car.

I think the cops after a while just get complacent about stuff./
like anyone would
 
When I was a child, my mother would take my toys away from me if I didn't take care of them. Sounds like this cop needs some time on the capgun squad. :neener
Seriously, spending his next 10 days off in the armoury cleaning weapons would be a good reminder to keep better track of his equipment.
My $0.02 worth.
 
Just thought I'd add a little more on this subject. A similar story appeared on the news a week or so ago about the same subject, but different players. This time it was a select fire HK that was missing. It had been missing for months, but the parish sherrif's office decided not to tell the media about it. Apparently a SWAT officer somehow left his gear bag, w/the gun and ammo in it so that it ended up on the highway. A guy had picked it up and had been keeping it for himself, when a friend spilled the beans on him to the department and the gun was returned. The officer who lost the gun has since been removed from SWAT, and I don't remember if he was actually fired or not. I'll try and find the story and post it as soon as I can find it on the net.

If i found something like this, and decided to keep it, I wouldn't tell anyone.... Most likely I would turn it in however. The penity for having a FA weapon isn't worth it.

many years ago i dated a girl who worked on North Clark street in Chicago. Lots of cops came into her place for lunch, and dinner, and when ever they decided the battery in the radio died. . . anyway one day i pick her up from the shop and she has a huge smile on her face, and she hands me a bag. In the bag is a big sandwich and a dishtowel. In the dishtowel is wrapped a model 669 S&W and badge holder. I just about fainted when i saw that piece sitting there. I was I think 19 at the time. I asked where in the H"""' she got it and she some fat cop had come in and taken it off because it stuck into his belly every time he sat down,and left it on the table when he left, I said why did you keep it and she said...."he never tips"

Silly question, but what did she do with it? Did the fat cop do the same thing again?

-Bill
 
If the story is accurate, it seems to me that this Trooper had a real trunkload of crap, on top of which sat his notebook computer and rifle.

About time for him to clean out that car, eh?
 
Same thing happened in Largo FLA about ten years ago. Patrolman put the bag with his MP5 on the roof of the car while loading his other gear. Jumped in and drove off. The bag, MP5 and several mags loaded with "Black Talons" were deposited on the street to be found by the guy that turned it all in a few days later.
I cannot say what I would have done if I found the "lost property" in the street :evil:
 
The best 'Roadkill' I have recovered to date

Two gunnysacks of HOT Hatch green chiles. YUM!

A full 125 cubic foot acetylene cylinder.

A 30 round magazine for a Mini 14 with ammo.


Lots of stuff laying beside the road:

Bedliner that almost fits my pickup

Close to a dozen assorted plastic gas cans, one good metal one.

Dozens of bungiecords.

:D :D :D :D
 
The trunk release on some year model LE crown vics replaces the center dash clock. As has been mentioned previously, it would be easy to push on accident. Although after reading Coronach's story it seems the internal release probably got the trooper.

Now before reading these posts I would have kept that rifle and slept great that night, BUT I do understand that some officers do have to pay for their own rifles. If I found a rifle that was marked so that I knew it was LE and it was semi only it would cross my mind that maybe the officer paid for it, and that would cause me to consider trying to find the owner. I know if I lost a gun I would be sick about it and would want it back.

If Full Auto: Keep (might need it some day) Give thanks, holy praise, etc.
If Semi no owner markings: Keep and give thanks.
If Semi With Leo markings or indications of leo ownership: Maybe keep but do some "checking" on the down and low. If situation warrants...thanks and praise.

Remember the recent story about a fishermen returning a bunch of M2's lost by some troops in training? Now I would have kept those babies! I can bury a right side plate no problem. Speaking of holy praise...jeeze I'd have to give a burt offering for finding some m2s.
 
I'd like to think I'd turn it in. If it were marked as LEO, I certainly would, but I'd use the incident to try to wrangle a CCW out of them for not going to the press. :evil:
 
A computer accidentally hit the trunk release button and on top of that the trunk opened just enough for a large back to slide through and fall out of a trunk? I don't buy it, good story to save face though; I think.
 
“I'm like, ‘is this some drug dealers’ or just some hit men?’ I didn’t know what to think,â€

"Just" some hit men? Nobody else found that hilarious?

Must be waist deep in hitmen down there...

Farnham

PS: Keep it. Shovel. Shut up.
 
Why all the negativity?

Wow, this is my first post here. I was really excited to find this forum and have spent my comp. time over the past couple of days reading a lot of the great stuff here. Then I tripped over this thread and wonder; what gives? :scrutiny:

Perhaps I open myself up to ridicule here but I am not even a little bit ashamed to admit that I am a cop.

I will even risk sounding like a conceited ass and say that I am a very good cop.

Many of the people who posted in this thread seem to have some very harsh opinions of me and my brothers and sisters in blue by virtue of our chosen profession. Lets look at what a cop is shall we?

You have chosen us (through your Government) to be defenders of the people. We protect those too weak or timid to protect themselves. You require us to operate in a strictly controlled environment that gives every advantage to the person(s) suspected of a crime.

We are required to be legal experts, counselors, referees, therapists, priests, teachers, social workers, diplomats, English majors, child psychologists, non-lethal combat experts, riflemen, pistoleers, racecar drivers, flat tire changers, cab driver, medical aid first responders, family counselor, Marriage therapist, babysitter, guard, deductive reasoner, etc. etc. etc…

Oh yeah, we have to be completely unbiased; fair, and impartial at all times. We have to be able to be tempted continuously and refuse to give in, we have to know where to find all the vice the world has to offer, but partake in none of it.

You give us enormous power and responsibility. At times decisions that we make impact the entire course of other people’s lives… sometimes those decisions have to be made in fractions of a second…. and we cant make mistakes.

Here’s the hitch. We are people; yes folks, human beings just like you. We make mistakes; sometimes even when we try our hardest not to.

My issued CAR is a tool; nothing more, nothing less. Lets say I worked in construction and when I left the jobsite one evening the tailgate of my pickup truck fell open and my saws-all case slid out of the box of my truck and was found on the highway the next day? Would that make me too irresponsible a carpenter to carry a saws-all in the future?

Given, some butt-monkey who tripped over something lying in the road could do a hell of a lot more damage with my Rock River than they could with the Makita, but damn.

Frankly I am shocked that there are so many people who responded to this by first firing off some smarmy comment about the police then going on to expound on how they would conceal the rifle. I couldn’t even imagine having this conversation with a bunch of other cops… somehow us irresponsible, imbecile, no-good cops find or have handed to us found property all the time and don’t convert it to our personal use. What kind of disparaging remarks would you have to make about a news story of a cop who found a man’s gun and decided to keep it for himself “because the owner is obviously too irresponsible to keep it himself?" Or do you hold us to a higher standard than you hold yourself to?

Yes there are bad cops, stupid cops, fat cops, and crooked cops. No more than there are bad-stupid-fat-crooked farmers, or bakers, or car mechanics, or engineers or whatever. Far less even, in my opinion.

Oh, and by the way, I wish I could take some pictures of my old Vic, to show you just how very easily this could have happened just as the Trooper said it did, but I drive an Expedition now.

I would attempt to explain in detail that the damn dash mounted trunk release or the pull cord for the emergency trunk escape on a patrol car can (and does) inadvertently pop open the trunk and how a cruiser’s trunk is so jammed full of equipment that those who carry their long arms in the trunk have to put them on top of all of it all for easy access, thus making it the first thing to fall out if the trunk comes open (or when you are rearended) but others with first hand knowledge have failed to reason it out for some of you, so I wont waste my or your time. :rolleyes:

Did you know that the vast (and I mean VAST) majority of the rank and file police officers are your (by “your†I mean firearms enthusiasts) strong allies and compatriots in the struggle to maintain our 2A rights? Most of us do not fear an armed citizen, we appreciate them… we are “just†armed citizens too.

I guess it sucks that my first post here was a rant, but I am really surprised and disappointed by some of the attitudes I saw here in this thread

I am used to going to different places on the web and deciding to keep my profession under my hat because of all the negativity that people show the police, but I didn’t think this would be one of those places. I guess I was wrong. :banghead:

What a shame.
 
I have heard talking heads say

Robert Blake has to be guilty, because no one would ever forget and leave a gun behind. One guy who supposedly carried said that he was always aware of where his gun was. All I can say is that it can happen to anyone. :rolleyes:
 
I believe that if you amended the word humans in place of LEOs, your statement would be correct.
Very true

I have seen US Marines punished for the loss of 1 round for a service weapon. I think that some sort of action should be taken to ensure that LEO's remain very alert to the location of service weapons. I'm not saying suspend the guy or anything, but something should be done to let everyone know that what happened should not be acceptable.
In other situations explained in this thread there were near-incidents that were avoided due to the LEO paying attention to what what was going on. If some sort of extra duty were to assigned when somehting like this happened to make the LEO realize that what happened is strongly frowned upon and it would put an exclamation point on the issue to other officers and perhaps make them a little more vigilant in paying attention to how their gear setups are put together.
 
w12code3

Welcome to The High Road.

A lot of the sad sacks here remember the bad, not the good. 'Tis sad, but 'tis also very human.

I probably have had face to face dealings with 50 or more police officers in my life, (56 years old now) but the only officer's name I can remember was one rookie in Albuquerque that chewed my a$$ for going 5 over in traffic and changing lanes too many times to suit him. The senior officer with him didn't say anything, just shook his head and walked back towards the patrol car.

I later encountered his name in the Second Chance Saves list. I'd assume someone took issue with him over something, but his vest saved him from serious injury.

MY point, I don't remember the Police Officers that have helped me, as much as the ONE that offended me. (Probably justifiably)
So I submit that with the cloak of being incognito allowed by the internet, the feelings expressed here are far different than those they would espouse in public or to your face. So give them the same amount of respect that you would give an anonymous phone caller.

Thank you for your service to your community, and our country!
 
w12code3 - and a welcome from me too :)

I fear that ''bashing'' is all but predictable - and the bad apples always seem to win the day. My son's BIL is a cop - also a darned good one .... but he has described in quite some detail one or two of the guys he has to work with - and their ''bad apple nature'' really pisses him - because it is they who help make his work harder because of their reputation - they get noticed whereas the majority good cops do not. They are too busy doing the best they can.

It will, to some degree - ever be thus I fear. It is a pity tho that at times here there is quite so much vitriol expressed, when for the most part as I see it - our cop members are probably amongst the cream of the crop - and sure don't deserve the lambasting they often get.
 
Why cann't this happen with a bag full of hundreds that fell out of some dirtbag's car. I would love to be driving to the airport and see a suitcase come flying out of a trunk and find it full of cash........
 
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