Last night's LOST Episode (Spoiler)

pittspilot said:

The moral of the story was clear. In trying to protect everyone from themselves, you merely empower the bad guy.

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The other part of the moral is that the people were allowing themselves to become sheep being controlled by Locke and the Doctor. Sawyer has now just introduced the free market to the equation because he'll gladly sell any of the guns to anyone who wants them (you'll notice in the previews of next week Siad has a rifle).

I still don't trust the cop ... she's a psycho.

i dont understand this show at all

In trying to protect everyone from themselves, you merely empower the bad guy.

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Sonofagun. Pittspilot, that's exactly what passed through my mind as I was watching the end of the show. (Okay, I confess, I kinda like that program.)

Love that show...

...it's one of the few intelligent shows in TV.

HUGE KUDOS to that show for finally showing people that reality TV really isn't as good as what writer's minds can conjure up.

Although I'll admit I got a little confused on what Sawyer did to that women in his flashback, until I figured he conned her. What's spooky as hell is Sawyer telling Charlie, "I'm not a good person."

Every BG I've ever seen insisted that he was, indeed, a good person. I think Sawyer does have a good streak (he told Jack about Jack's father), but he's been conditioned through trauma to think he's a bad guy. Thus, Kate's asking him why he has to do what he has to do.

Bah, it is just a lamo left hook by the writers and will probably be completely forgotten in 2 episodes. How anyone could still be hanging on to the "my stuff" argument 2 MONTHS after crashlanding is ridiculous. Sawyer hoarded other peoples stuff when they first crashed. Since then he has doled it out whenever the writers feel it necessary. If he was really sitting on a gold mine of stuff, someone would have shanked him by now.

About the only thing in the episode that made sense was Anna-Lucia's comment "Ya'll ain't scared enough yet". DAMN STRAIGHT! These sheeple have been living on an island for 2 MONTHS along side a group KNOWN to be homicidal, yet they have no patrols, no look-outs, no central base, no real organization whatsoever. They DESERVE to be preyed upon and taken advantage of, IMHO.

The flashbacks have to go. They take up too much airtime, leaving the "present day" stuff to be squeezed in and giving most cast members a token appearance. Did we learn ANYTHING new about Sawyer? Nope. Sure the flashback sorta kinda paralleled the current storyline, but it is nothing that couldn't have been laid out over the campfire one night.

I still don't get why the hatch/bunker is stocked with AK's with 10 round magazines.

Those were an artifact of the '89 and later executive order import bans, and the '94 AWB. The hatch was set up and stocked in the 1970's. There were few AK's in the U.S. at that time. And any that the Dharma proj./Hanso foundation would have bought on the open market would have 30 round mags...

Although, I suppose it dosen't explain all the food, that wouldn't have lasted since the 70's. And they did point out that there was a modern digital front-loading washer/dryer...

I like the leisurely pace of Lost, which makes it more like a video novel than the usual short attention span theater.

I will agree that the only four characters even begin to have their heads on straight about their circumstances:

Michael--out to save his son from the "others" no matter the personal cost. I can relate to him.

Sawyer--The only other member of the original group who even gets individualism, though he came by his understanding of it through a warped life. He does have a streak of nobility in him, but his anti-authoritarianism is really why he is "hated." Still a good guy to have in pinch because he has shown no compunction about mixing it up no matter how long the odds.

Echo--the ex Nigerian warlord. The only man on the island who is constantly armed, constantly vigilant, and fully capable of killing an opponent while remaining mentally stable, as opposed to ex-cop Ana Lucia.

Ana Lucia--she is fully capable of handling herself, but as noted, seems to be psychotic and a paranoiac, which is a really bad mix.

Everyone else on the island except for perhaps Jin, is just waiting to die horribly.

The show being based and prop sourced inbetween Hawaii and California is the probable explanation for all of the 10 round magazines. Both states have mag bans and the show tries to save money where it can due to the exorbinant location costs, as evidenced by all of the cheap knives Locke owns.

Question is, how many years are we gonna have to watch it until they get saved?

Almost like the Truman show huh

Its only been less than two months on the island, which is why Jorge Garcia (Hurley) isn't crash dieting.

I've gotta admit that I REALLY like that show. I don't watch a whole lot of TV, but that one keeps me coming back week after week to see what the next twist is going to be.

I've been known to watch an episode or two of Lost.

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I dunno what this plot crapp is you all are talking about.

The cop chick is quite spankable too.

I haven't seen any "lost" yet. My older brother is trying to get my started on it. From what you said, the guy who was trying to stop the accident has the IQ of a soapdish. They should have divved up the guns since the minute they hit the ground.

I can not see how ANY one can watch that show. I heard about it, how good it was and everything. I said "Hey I will see what its about." I got a copy of the pilot episode from a friend and started watching it. I could not sit through the first FIVE minutes. It starts off with a *&%$*#% JET engine, on the ground not attached to a functioning plane, RUNNING! Then it SPEEDS up and a guy its SUCKED INTO it and it #$%^&*@ BLOWS up. A engine that is not phisicaly possible to be running in the first place is not going to blow up when something gets sucked into it. Otherwise we would have planes falling out of the sky all the time. Any way thats were I turned it off.

When they ran into 'the others' they should have divided up the weapons and had some training. With 40-50 people there will be 3-5 with Military experience. They won't need Ranger Training but in a day or two people can be taught the basisc of LP's OP's, or a line ambush. The woman Cop is NOT the one to train. Police work is NOT the same as a Military training. The leader of 'the others' had a ragad looking Luger. If the leader is armed this way the rest can't be much.

Kevin

AJ Dual said:

I still don't get why the hatch/bunker is stocked with AK's with 10 round magazines.

Those were an artifact of the '89 and later executive order import bans, and the '94 AWB. The hatch was set up and stocked in the 1970's. There were few AK's in the U.S. at that time. And any that the Dharma proj./Hanso foundation would have bought on the open market would have 30 round mags...

Although, I suppose it dosen't explain all the food, that wouldn't have lasted since the 70's. And they did point out that there was a modern digital front-loading washer/dryer...

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The hatch is stocked with 10 rounders because they are filming in Hawaii. Guess Hawaii won't even let Hollyweird in with 30 rounders.

Semper Fi

LOST is the only TV show I watch. It's a great show but probably very difficult to understand unless you've seen every episode. The characters are very interesting and the show is extremely intriguing. Plus, there are some very beautiful women.

AJ Dual said:

I still don't get why the hatch/bunker is stocked with AK's with 10 round magazines.

Those were an artifact of the '89 and later executive order import bans, and the '94 AWB. The hatch was set up and stocked in the 1970's. There were few AK's in the U.S. at that time. And any that the Dharma proj./Hanso foundation would have bought on the open market would have 30 round mags...

Although, I suppose it dosen't explain all the food, that wouldn't have lasted since the 70's. And they did point out that there was a modern digital front-loading washer/dryer...

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The bunker is restocked every couple of years or so.

Actually there are plenty of just plain "goofs" in the show. The producers have been known to follow what people are saying about the show on the various Lost message boards, and since they're into hiding "easter eggs" in various shots, I think they've had to get a lot better about avoiding continuity errors.

Apparently it was a little bit of a shock to them when 20 minutes after the "Orientation" episode aired, people had giant screencaps posted online and were picking through being like "Hey, Kenmore elite washer drier? Coldwater Tide? I don't think so!"

The first season was just the worst... drop a Beretta, and when you pick it up, it's turned into Sig P230! Drop that, and it morphs into a 1911! I'm also fairly sure that the rifle Michael got from the hatch is the same prop gun used as Rosseau's rifle. In the episode where he was learning to shoot, there was a second where you could see the front sight, and it was drifted soooo far to the (rifle's) right it was about to fall out of the dovetail.

Anyway, even without the hatch, there are a lot of firearms and explosives just lying around that island. They'll probably turn up a crashed B-17 with functional MG's next

OK, yeah, there are some huge, honking plot flaws. The biggest one is that I completely do not buy a plane BREAKING APART in mid-air, yet the people in BOTH parts of the plane survive.

But you know what? In other ways, the show is so well written (and I'm a professional, full-time writer-it's my business) that I'm willing to let a few things slide. It's really tough to do something like they do and make everything harmonize consistently.

In fact, it's a standing joke between my husband and me. When something outrageous happens, I say, "...oh, wait...it's a MAGIC island!" They did allude to it being a magic island, and they make free use of that fact as a deus ex machina (a plot device designed to get the writer out of a jam...literally, a god descending from heaven to save the poor unfortunates.)

Love the flashbacks--it adds depth and color to flesh out the character's backstory as we go along. It's like uncovering gems.

But yes, if I were there I would definitely have a lookout system posted. I would not travel alone, nor let people like Sun work in a garden alone.

I assumed, given the varying dates of things in the Hatch, that things had been dropped in there at different times. It may well have a restocking system.

And notice at the very last of the episode we're talking about, Hurley hinted at getting messages from another time (I love time-travel stories.)

Were I on the island, I'd be pleasant, I'd be friendly, but I'd have a plan to kill everyone I met.

I think Kate looks WAY better without makeup.

I didn't record the episodes, but from what I remember, Rosseau was carrying something that looked like a 98K. I though Michael was shooting something that looked like a .22 Marlin or Mossberg would have produced in the '70s.

I also saw Zeke had what looked like (I just saw mostly barrel) either a Luger or P-38 (though he has a Sig and a 1911 now thanks to Dr Jackass).

Tried it, liked it, but...

I've decided not to watch it unless there's nothing else good on. I'll wait for a lot more questions to get answered, and then get the entire DVD set when it comes out. (In other words, I like the show too much to suffer through the delayed gratification every week.)

Yea, I'm a pretty big Lost fan. Not to impressed by how slow things have been going lately though, this last episdoe started to speed up though. the only show that trumps Lost for me is 24.

I think that in coming episodes a lot of the seemingly crazy and blatant plot flaws (anyone remeber a certain polar bear... or Locke being pulled in a hole by a 'smoke monster'...?!) In any case, it's good solid enertainment, beats the other mindless shows and reruns.