Police informed my (anti) boss that I carry!

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still waiting for the decision.

Pax.
1) What was it about the after incident interview that happened so fast you could not inform the cops that you were carrying?

I kicked a drunk out of my cab after he threatened to kill me, I saw a cop on the side of the road and pulled over, jumped out and told her what the getting violent drunk had just said. he got out of the car as she was talking on the radio.
While she was on the radio another PD car pulled up and before I could even say hi he asked if I'm packing, and got irate that I didn't say that first.
I didn't want to interrupt her radio transmission.
I think the cop that called was surprised when he called the Sheriff & they told him that NV law is silent on informing that you're packing so he went and called my work.

If you did not tell the cops you were carrying, then how did they know?
They asked. I answered.

3) Did either of these incidents have to do with your CCW suspension?
http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=295999
The ccw suspension was over a year ago. It has no bearing on my current situation.(I was working at a different cab company)
I was attacked and fought back and simply won the fight (the attacker never knew I was armed) We were both arrested and I was cleared.
I took a year because I couldn't afford a lawyer, my ccw was returned by the Sheriff's after their investigation.
I was totally cleared when my attacker admitted fault.
 
I think the cop that called was surprised when he called the Sheriff & they told him that NV law is silent on informing that you're packing so he went and called my work.

You "think" he called your work because he was surprised. I can think of a couple other explanations. Does your supervisor have a police scanner in his office? He could have heard most all of what went on, if so. The police might have called your supervisor to notify him that one of his drivers and vehicles had been involved in an incident; the company is hardly a disinterested party.

Given Nevada's laws, you aren't going to end up owning the cab company. That much is certain. You knowingly violated company policy. Getting caught meant getting canned and you knew it.

As for the cop you think "snitched" on you, before you go trying to file any complaints or civil suits you'd better be sure of two things:
1. That there really are any confidentiality laws or departmental policies that were violated.
2. Who violated them.
Much of the advice you've received here had just assumed that there are such and that suing the officer/department over it would be a slam dunk. Somebody in your apparent financial situation shouldn't start running up billable hours based on advice from internet strangers who don't know you, your situation, or the laws involved.

If it turns out you do have some kind of grounds for a civil suit, don't plan on hitting the jackpot. If your grounds for the suit are shakey, the city will go to court and fight you. They have lawyers on retainer they are paying anyway. They may offer you a settlement to just go away. It is extremely unlikely to be a vast amount of money. If you managed to find a lawyer who agreed to take this case on a contingency basis, he'll take a big chunk of it off the top. How big depends on your agreement with him.
Bottom line? You knowingly violated your company policy and they can discharge you with you having no recourse. Whether the police officer did something wrong isn't going to change that. Pursuing action against the police officer isn't going to get your job back and isn't likely to drop a huge sack of money into your lap.
My advice is look for another job and move on with your life.
 
How about this.....

Maybe the police have to file a report and give a copy to the cab company? Maybe on their report they had to put that you were armed since you were and maybe that is a cop thing to write down? Maybe your supervisor just read the incident report that he got?

Just saying...
 
Gunsmith ~

Thanks, that makes more sense now.

The situation sucks, but it kind of sounds like there's very little you can do. I hope it works out for you.

pax
 
I am just bewildered that a Reno Nevada taxi company bans the carrying of weapons in their vehicles. Overall my impression is that Reno is a pretty accomodating place to people who carry weapons, and taxi of all places is a place that really makes sense to carry one. I can't think of many cabbies that don't carry a weapon of some kind.

As far as the privacy issue, police reports are public record. It would be pretty easy to believe that the cab company requests any report that involves one of their cars, the information would be displayed right there.
 
The cab company bans carrying weapons as a CYA move. If they allow a driver to carry a gun and he uses it in an unjustified manner the cab company is open for litigation and can't just pass the buck to the driver.
 
Well, you could always have your CYA move. Just take no action on transgressions. Make it an unforgivable sin, then, when an employee is caught call him (or her) into the office. Ask them if they know that this is a problem. Then ask if it's going to be a problem again. If the employee ends up lighting somebody up illegally, then you could always say (if the first transgression comes up) that you spoke with your employee and told them it was a problem and they promised it wouldn't be again. Then you could fire him. If he uses it in a good shoot, he's a hero and you're ok. Sue the survivors for the damage to the car.:D That's how I would handle it, but I wouldn't fault an employee in that job for carrying multiple weapons. Probably even encourage it.
 
gunsmith said:
The ccw suspension was over a year ago. I was attacked and fought back. We were both arrested and I was cleared.
While it's unclear whether his weapon was used or displayed in this instance, should I expect this sort of policy if I ever have to use my weapon?

Expecting to lose your weapon to an evidence locker is bad enough, but suspension of CCW because you had to use it?
 
so far the decision is moved to Friday

Which looks promising.

This message is hidden because Joe Demko is on your ignore list.

Thanks for your contribution Joe, I hope you are well.
I have no idea what you wrote.

Expecting to lose your weapon to an evidence locker is bad enough, but suspension of CCW because you had to use it?

Anytime you are arrested for any violent offense, in my case simple battery/mutual battery your ccw is suspended pending outcome and sheriff investigation.

If it is a clear cut case of self defense they confiscate your gun until the case is through (normally a year) but you still have the ccw permit.

Maybe the police have to file a report and give a copy to the cab company?
Nope, the cop involved just had a burr under his saddle, in fact I saw him today because we were both due in court to testify against a guy that pulled a knife on me a few weeks ago. (the first contact in which I regretfully didn't inform the cops of my ccw)
He seemed real embarrassed and didn't want to talk.
I thanked him for his hard work and left it at that.
I am considering writing a letter to the Chief Of Police, I'm not sure.
 
gunsmith, your explanations of the current situation and of the background to it that caused you problems are convincing.

Perhaps it might be useful to take a slightly different approach to the interview with your boss, something along the lines of this, if it looks as if you are going to be fired:

"Jack, I do understand the company's need for a policy that insulates it from responsibility for my need to be able to defend my life. I'm sure that you understand that I do need to be able to defend myself. I like working for you and want to continue. We are not antagonists.

"So I assure you that, in the event of an unfortunate incident that I simply can't avoid, I will testify in defense of the company and say--truthfully--that you have informed me of the company's policy and have reprimanded me for violating it. You can rest assured also that I will do everything possible to avoid an unfortunate incident. I don't look for trouble."

Perhaps it's worth considering.
 
Thank You, sir

Excellent advice, it looks like I wait until Friday to have that conversation, but at least they have not given me the boot.
 
Pulling for ya, dude. Good luck. You obviously have a lot of character to keep overcoming all this adversity.
 
Hey guys, guess what?

All the cop-bashing posts have magically disappeared. If more appear after this, there may have to be bannings.

That kind of nonsense is exactly why I don't have a Legal and Political forum to post in anymore, and frankly that ticked me off.
 
All the cop-bashing posts have magically disappeared.
I don't believe you Don Gwinn! I bet you deleted them and no magic was used! :neener:

Frankly, it doesn't really matter how the employer found out. You made the gamble to carry against company policy and your number might have come up. I hope it doesn't, we wont know until Friday. But when you decided to break rules you agreed to follow when hired you are choosing wager you job against (in this case) your safety. I'd choose safety over job security and can't blame you for doing so too.
 
What an unjust dilemma: Carry and risk getting fired vs. Don't carry and risk getting killed. Lie to the cop and say you are not carrying and risk getting arrested and losing your job vs. Telling the cop and risk losing your job.

Most employers are hypocrites when it comes to a weapon policy. They will readily accept gov't intrusion on politically correct employment issues, but act as if gov't is overstepping its bounds if it doesn't allow firing an employee for possessing a weapon at his place of work. The only employer that has a leg to stand on in banning weapons is one that thinks it should be allowed to not hire blacks too. Find an employer willing to admit that.

If a company bans weapons on the job, than it is only just to require it to hold liability if an employee is injured by something that carrying a weapon might have prevented. Or employers should be required to allow lawful CCW in the name of public safety. There are so many other safety regulations they abide by, I'd have a hard time believing them if they had a problem with this aspect.

Gunsmith, good luck in keeping your job or finding a better one.
 
Asking cab drivers to go unarmed would be like demanding all the cops in town turn in their guns and vests. Then firing them if they didn't.
 
What an unjust dilemma: Carry and risk getting fired vs. Don't carry and risk getting killed. Lie to the cop and say you are not carrying and risk getting arrested and losing your job vs. Telling the cop and risk losing your job.

Right, when you knowingly disobey mandates of employment, then you should also knowingly realize that your act of disobedience may cause you to lose your job. You agreed to employment under those conditions so you should not be surprised if you get fired for violating them. After all, none of us like it when somebody fails to fulfill their portion of a contractual agreement. That isn't to say that you have to like it, only that one should not be surprised when reality happens.
 
Frankly, it doesn't really matter how the employer found out.
Not entirely accurate - "how" is what might open the way for a lawsuit. Which would matter.
 
Not entirely accurate - "how" is what might open the way for a lawsuit. Which would matter.

Really? Here in Texas, if I carry into my boss' private property and he's marked it appropriately against CHL, I'm charged with criminal trespass.

If the situation is the same in Reno, then that would indicate that the cop was doing his job. I don't know, though.
 
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